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Elvis Andrus was the definition of a SSS hot streak. His last five years are on par with Leury Garica, even with his hot streak. Signing him and expecting him to be the guy who went nuts for a month last year would be the most White Sox of moves. Maybe as a utility guy and fill in, but no, not as a starter.

Please be the white Sox getting put up for sale.

We gotta find out if the rookies can play. Romy G and L Sosa.

Without reading this, I’m here to just comment that there is no place for him and signing him would be stupid. But like our front office, clearly can’t put it past then.. with 80% of this post revolving around “Sox need more power”, it’s funny that Andrus is that solution with his prior 4 years being 3,3,12,6 homers.

After that 6-3 start I was feeling optimistic after their playoff ass-kicking and do-nothing offseason, but it quickly came crashing down. 2022 was an absolute train wreck of a season and no one had any answers. What was worse is that they didn’t try anything different to fix it. There were numerous times firing TLR as an attempt to salvage the season would have been appropriate, but they stayed the course doing the same wrong and broken things. They doubled down on bad and dumb, as is their way. Whatever malaise set in with this crew around the 2021 ASB seemed to infect every aspect of this team in 2022. It is January 1st and sadly I can’t point to anything that suggests 2023 will be drastically better. New coaching was necessary and welcome, but is it enough? Another paltry off-season with no depth for an injury prone core certainly doesn’t inspire hope nor wash the bad taste of 2022 away.

Someone has to note the Blackhawks ownership covering up a sexual assault issue in this discussion. That’s a whole different level of stuff.

I hate tweets like this. Just tell the fans who it is. Stop click baiting everyone into a speculative purgatory. The Angels are 1 of 2 teams. Not sure on the other team? The stadium deal will be TB. Sounds like they love the most recent proposal: https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/tampa-bay-rays-new-ballpark-st-petersburg-hines/?zephr_sso_ott=unZvjp We can only wish an organization as archaic and outdated as the White Sox can hand the keys over to a new ownership group who genuinely cares about winning and the fan base. It’s safe to say we are all tired of the triumvirate of dogcrap known as: Jerry/Kenny/Rick.

He garnered a ton of attention pretty much the whole game. Early on he had a sick swim move to create pressure and later on he was clearly held and tackled when he should have gotten another sack. Stat line wasn't pretty, but he absolutely made a difference. The Bears need that type of guy who requires extra attention to open things up for other people.... Kinda wild that Will Anderson didn't even have a tackle and Carter only had 1. Honestly I want both him and Payne on the interior. I wanna do the same with DE. Add a free agent and a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Ideal off-season includes a high end DT, DE, and OT in free agency and a high pick on DT, DE, and IOL(center) in the draft.

f*** Rick Hahn and the 2022 horse he rode in on.

This was the year that I felt my perception of the team shift significantly, from "exciting championship window/this is our time/rebuild is over/can they get it done" to "oh, this is just KW-era White Sox business as usual now/pre-rebuild constant shuffling and retooling and hoping that everything breaks right every year." I've been a really negative poster the past couple years, and I apologize for that, but they way this "contention window" has been handled, to me, is the most damning evidence I've seen in my life that this ownership/management group is simply not capable of competing in the current MLB metagame. It isn't about Reinsdorf being "cheap" -- it's totally reasonable to flex into and out of the upper third in spending for a team of the Sox market power -- it's about him (and/or his invincible hand-picked braintrust) being utterly incompetent in evaluating the types of investments to make. Time and time again, they've chosen to allocate their resources into the most risky, short-term, and low-upside types of talent acquisitions that are available (veteran relievers, high floor/no-upside corner players/stars with polarizing evaluations around the league, pitching-heavy prospect pools) while seemingly every other team has figured out a better playbook (prioritizing depth, developing average payers while paying for stars, bat-heavy drafting strategy, diversified international spending). The type of strategic knowledge that they lack has been obviously and readily available for many years at this point, and even the most rudimentary competitive analysis would reveal it. It's almost unbelievable that they are continuing to invest actual money in this type of strategy. I was a strident supporter of "the rebuild," because it gave the team chance for a sorely needed clean slate. They filled that clean slate with the same dumb s%*# it had before. I will always root for this laundry/these players to pull it together and give me another 2005, but I will not be fooled again that real change will occur as long as this group remains in charge.

It’s still a very dumb post/take. You’re using an emotional response from todays game to erase Weeks 6-7-8-9-10-11-13-15 (didn’t play week 12, bye was week 14) He’s also 23. He also had 132 rushing yards today. He is also throwing the worst WR core in the league, with a bad offensive line. He had a bad game. The Bears will be sitting on one of the most valuable commodities in the NFL in April, and using it to fill a position that is currently occupied by far and away their most talented player (who is also still on his rookie contract) is an awful use of resources, especially when you consider all the other needs on this team. You’re better than that

Here is the list of positions I have come up with where I feel the White Sox have sufficient depth to get through a season with no problems. 1. People named Reinsdorf. 2. The Grounds Crew. Thanks to Roger Bossard. Right now I don't think they even have enough marketing people, they definitely don't have enough radio and TV people under contract, I'm not sure they have enough vendors considering they picketed the bloody stadium at the end of the season, and there's literally no position on the diamond where I would say "They have enough depth that they won't have any issue during this season." So, would Elvis Andrus make sense for this team receiving an invitation to spring training? Absolutely. If they were to sign him, I would go so far as to say that between the injury histories of Moncada and Anderson, Leury's performance and injury history, and the inexperience of Sosa and Romy, there would be a high likelihood that he would make the team out of spring training. If he didn't' make the roster out of spring training we would probably need him for something by the end of May, and right now they have no one they could call up who could fill that kind of role. They would wind up calling up Burger and playing Leury or Romy full time at 2b or SS if someone struggled or got hurt, which is just a mess. The White Sox would be better with Elvis Andrus as an additional option than they are right now. Elvis Andrus is not a starting player on anything other than a bottom of the league team. He is a guy who can be slightly above replacement level, we shouldn't count on anything more than that. But, the White Sox right now don't have replacement level infielders in their organization if anyone gets hurt or if anyone (including Leury, who was awful and who had a back injury last year) struggles again this year. Now here's the problem. If Andrus was on this roster as a spring training invite, and the setup was for him to come up once someone had a chance to struggle through April or once someone got hurt, and he was in a spot where he might receive 200 plate appearances and play 50 games...that's not a terrible plan for $1 million. However, the question is whether we could limit him to that role. If Tony LaRussa was the manager, I would have to say "No you cannot sign him. If you sign him, he will receive 600 plate appearances regardless of how bad he is. It will not matter if a rookie can outperform him, he will get preference because he's a veteran." Can Pedro Grifol manage a veteran and 2 rookies at infield positions? I don't know. I don't have a lot of confidence that they won't screw it up, but if they could do it correctly, having him in the organization could make them better overall. It is also possible that someone could give an Elvis Andrus type player a big league contract. There are bad teams in the league, he could potentially start for one of them right now. The White sox should not offer Andrus that kind of deal, and if he would prefer that to a minor league deal with a team that has an outside chance of competing, then that's his business, find someone else who can fill that role.

does it matter that hes never played second

He’s not carrying water for Leury… he’s showing how both equally suck lol

The pitch clock is going to help. I think it will help not only slice off a half hour a game, but it will increase offense.

played well for us last year, but he'll probably regress to the mean over a full season. I'd honestly rather run the kids out there. Sosa or Popeye.

Awful awful performance from Fields. Shows despite all the tools - he has so much work to still do. Yes the weapons stink but he has to make on time plays too. Oline was also terrible. But fields has to make some on schedule plays. Everything can’t just be him making ridiculous running plays or holding ball forever until coverage finally breaks down.

The Lions are 2-3 years ahead of the Bears and they have 2 first round picks this year. They're gonna be a problem.

Just thought about it. That Foles injury might be a blessing in disguise for the Bears. Colts play the Texans next week. Suddenly that game can be very winning for Houston.

Spot on. Outstanding accurate post.

No. Happy New Year!

First post of 1/1/23. Let’s go White Sox!! Let’s win the AL Central and go to the dance baybee!

Ok, hear me out, was there ever *actually* a window under these goofs? Or just a bunch of blow hards blowing hot air?..

You'd think the stadium would have to be OAK or TB.

When I was a GM in Chicago I was invited by our corporate office in Milwaukee to a Brewer's game. We leased our company cars from Selig Leasing and we had "Bud's Seats" for the game. I guess the company owner didn't notice the Sox were playing. I showed up in black. I threw the b.s. flag about these being Bud's Seats. We were about five rows behind the Sox dugout. Why would Bud have his seats on the visitor side? Anyway, my favorite Ozzie moment. He's playing then and absolutely crushing the ball . . . always at someone. He finally lines one that looks like extra bases and gets robbed by a diving catchb and has a 0fer day. As he nears the dugout he slams his helmet into the wall and you hear "f*** this mother fucking game." Silence all around me. He's looking right at me as I say "he's English really has improved". He gets a huge smile and waves. I also learned how to play mound ball. Everyone tosses five bucks into the pot and hands it to the guy on the end. If at the half inning when the players throw the ball towards the mound it stays on the dirt you win the pot. If not, you add five and hand it to the person next to you. By the 3rd inning there were five or six separate games going. You'd hear a buildup as the ball might be rolling then come off.

And yet, almost every expert, fan, and projection system had the Sox as the better team going into last season. Why were they all so wrong?

The Engel drop and the 6 run collapse against Cleveland are two of the worst losses of the last decade. F*ck 2022. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong, and I’m optimistic about our chances in 2023. Cheers, fellas.

The White Sox fan motto should be: "Hope for the best...expect the worst."

Eminor nails it. I’ve been one of the biggest apologists/supporters forever. They finally broke me this year and I think it’s like you say: The choices made are just sooo bad the only conclusion I can come to is maybe these guys really don’t have what it takes to compete with other front offices. There’s time to fix it but a few years has been lost. I’ve gone from excited to skeptical about this window that should have been a home run.

So Jerry...when are you going to spend that money that was hoarded during the lean rebuild years? We were promised.

Seriously, just sell the fucking team already Jerry. Everyone hates you, and you will never, and I stress NEVER, win the management vs labor battle. Enough already. Time to cash out, release this team from your miserly penny-pinching clutches, and let the franchise move into the 21st century. For fucks sake.

Jerry you son of a b**** I knew it was you!

Yes, Jerry and Co has been thinking of us the fan base the whole time he was spending less and keeping those profits. This is absolutely laugh reacts only type of stuff right here.

You can get Josh Harrison in a trade at the deadline for Jared Kelly's smelly sock. I don't want to sign a guy like that. Let the kids play and earn their spot, or trade for an actual upgrade.

2022 Segura 1.8 WAR Harrison 1.4 WAR I think it's about time we roll dice with young folks here. If we can't get 2 WAR from Lenny/Romy, then we just suck at developing even average talent.