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I don’t think you’ve stopped caring, my dude.

When did I defend those moves? Pretty sure I ridiculed Getz for saying defense would be a priority and then played Sheets in the OF like his predecessor did. Regardless, this is a silly argument. Lopez has proven to be an above replacement level player because of his defense. I don’t think he’s good enough to be a starter on a good team, but he is a major leaguer in some capacity. Sheets put up a 131 wRC+ in half a season at Charlotte before being called up. Colas has never been over 100 wRC+ and regressed further last year. The big thing you keep missing is that signing cheap vets is a way to buy your prospects more time. The reason that we signed DeJong last year was to have a placeholder until Colson was ready (turned out he wasn’t). Let guys complete their development in the minors first before them into a major league role. I get the clock is ticking on Colas & Fletcher, but if they can’t fix their s%*# in AAA it’s unlikely they fix their s%*# in the majors.

I agree. I think far too many people are impatient and want to bring up prospects before they are ready. Ready isnt just numbers. It takes into account more things like being emotionally and mentally ready for the failure in the MLB. They will fail more in the MLB then succeed. Even the best players are out more then they succeed at the plate. These are aspects that fans can't know. Even the teams don't know for sure but the coaches who interact with them everyday have a better sense if this. The Sox aren't trying to win right now. The only thing that matters is the development of their current players throughout the system. In theory they see what they have this year and start filling in next year. The complicating factor us the impending strike. Are teams going to sign deals next year if they know a significant lock out/strike is coming?

Heck of a job by the scouting department.

When things go against your anti-Getz rants, it's luck. But when things are bad, it's that Getz is an idiot. This example and my bringing up Thorpe's five good games in a row last year. You then bring up bip or bap or some other silly pitcher rating that showed that those five really good, solid games were luck, not Thorpe's good pitching.

Hey, with Zavala's 2 for 2 performance today against the Reds, can I now prematurely declare that the Sox have clearly won the Cease trade? Because let's be honest, making that statement after two spring training at bats is every bit as valid as all the people pronouncing that the Sox lost the Cease trade.

I think it's fairly normal. The closer you get to opening day the less you want to risk injuries against young pitchers with iffy control or all the other numerous ways to get injured . Robert played yesterday got 2 hits.Dont want to tempt fate too much with him. Drury was originally in the lineup. They pulled him before the game started. Judging by the amount of low minors kids from both sides that started coming into the games it was probably agreed upon by both sides to let some kids play who they both brought into camp.

3 up 3 down Sox win !

I’ve been listening to Bernstein for 20 years. I can’t believe what he did last week. It’s why the mute button exists. If you can’t handle shitty assholes on Twitter right now, you need to delete the app. With that being said, 670 lost their two best hosts in last 7 months. They need a major lineup overhaul.

Just an all time loser reason to lose your job

Wow, about time with all of his rants. He was great when he first started but the ego and arrogance got the best of him. The bad side is that he was also removed from the board of the kids camp. He really did do a lot for them.

That is one hell of a generic white guy lineup.

Meidroth had an average EV of 88.6 last year with a 34% hard hit rate (EV 95+). Colson was at 85.8 and 34.2% respectively. Difference between them is Meideoth hits everything on the ground or a line (thus high BABIP, low HR), while Colon his everything in the air (below avg BABIP, average HR rate). He has no issue making solid hard contact, he's just not putting it on the air and thus won't generate XBH. But with his plate discipline and ability to hit the ball hard on the ground he'll be able to maintain an above average batting avg and likely elite OBP (with minimal ISO). If he plays an avg 2B he'll have plenty of value, the floor is high enough where he'll have a long MLB career.

Also... 28 other teams choose to not sign him. It's March 20th. Maybe there's some issues there we don't know about if teams weren't even willing to sign the guy on the cheap.

In conclusion, a Tauchman/Slater platoon has been better historically, has been better recently, and is projected to be better next year. But “age”…

Deleted this by accident: wRC+ vs. RHP (Career | Prior 3 Yr): Verdugo: 110 | 101 Tauchman: 101 | 110

fWAR per 600 PA (Career | Prior 3 Yr): Verdugo: 1.7 | 1.0 Tauchman: 2.2 | 1.7 Slater: 2.1 | 2.0 wRC+ vs. LHP (Career | Prior 3 Yr): Verdugo: 79 | 95 Slater: 121 | 111 2025 Steamer Projections: Verdugo: 292 PA | 102 wRC+ | 0.6 fWAR Tauchman: 347 PA | 110 wRC+ | 1.1 fWAR Slater: 203 PA | 98 wRC+ | 0.5 fWAR

I don’t care about these type of signings as much as you do. They don’t matter. What I think is if Getz would have signed Verdugo you would have lost your mind and been super mad about it, though.

You never know what you get but you have to try. I'm not sure you differentiated between who was a shitty vet and who wasn't. All I heard this off season was fans crying about how Getz didn't improve the pen. I guess that remains to be seen and all the injuries to a lot of our youthful depth is hurting the cause but pitching does have a market more than bats. It seems fairly useful that he picked so many veteran arms on the cheap. Some young arms he gave up for veteran arms might turn into useful position players. It's always hit and miss working in the fringes. Either you end up giving up someone you regret or you make the other team regret it. So far there's not much to regret on either side of these minor trades that everyone makes a big deal about because of the process. It's all just howling into the wind. The sound gets lost most of the time. I'll admit a lot of what Getz is doing is on the job training. He's made mistakes but some things are working and he's hired outside the organization and Crochet was a major win. I don't think he's had a bad 1st full year. Maybe a solid C grade considering JR isn't giving him much to spend unless infrastrure rebuilding is a lot more expensive than I think it is. I think the initial costs are higher than the maintenance costs so we'll have to wait and see what bears fruit if he's around long enough to see the fruits of his labors. I like the initial returns on the Bannister hiring. The efforts of the FO seems a lot more collaborative. I'm looking forward to seeing how Braden Montgomery and some of our draft picks like Bonemer,Antonacci, McLain,Saucke and Hagen Smith do. Bergolla will be a good follow too as well as Zavala,Meidroth,Wikel-man Gonzalez , Jacob Gonzalez and Colson Montgomery.

Yes, because 2-2 in a spring training game is equal to losing a player for 12-18 months of injury plus control time, while not including the extra year it takes for many pitchers to get back into form. And yes people are expecting the worst case scenario for Thorpe.

I disagree, Drew is going to be the jewel that that makes that trade a success, maybe not next month put it will happen. And really, my crystal ball is just as truthful as yours.

Let's hope so for the sake of the Opening Day attendees that just want a competitive, well-played game.

Tanner Banks wasn't really a shitty vet tho. He had multiple years of cheap control. in any event, I am referring to the the slew of not good position players that are crowding out the roster, not pitchers.

Brisket curds.

You could say the same thing on a lesser scale for now about Bergolla. Kid looks like he knows what he doing on the diamond.

Anything is better than Amaya...Bergolla impressed everyone with his baseball IQ that is largely credited to his father's tutelage.

I'm going to have to resist the idea of shitty vets that aren't good enough to return anything. You never know what you can come up for a relief pitcher especially LHRP. Look how that A ball SS Bergolla has hit in ST since they started using him. They picked him up for Tanner Banks. He's got hits, a few doubles a bunt hit, played the position well. Seems like a real savvy baseball player. We'll see how he does in Birmingham but if what he's done in ST so far is any indication along with what he did in A ball he's a likely .300 hitter who can also draw some walks at a premium position. Getz said they scouted and liked him because of the Phillies overtures into Crochet.

Good one

Eloy was sent down to the minors today by the Rays. Maybe the White Sox will pick him up again.

Odds are that dude's kids would have kicked that old man's ass, but yeah, he's all talk.

Yeah, once it’s Tweeted, you are done. It wouldn’t have even mattered if he deleted the tweet as someone would have screenshotted his threat about the guy’s kids. Really stupid. But I’m not sure why you can’t believe what he did. Bernstein has done equally stupid stuff in the past that should have gotten him fired…

After briefly peeking the headline I was trying to figure out how a spat over a fish was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Right up there with Jay Mariotti who used to threaten to quit when he didn't get his way, until the Sun Times said OK, and he was out.

Maybe, but Bernstein's always been an ass.

I can't believe he basically got fired because someone said he didn't release a fish he caught. Just the dumbest downfall in Chicago sports radio.

The man is an idiot. He's come close before, and evidently didn't learn his lesson. Dumbass.

About time.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jose-iglesias/10231/stats?position=SS Jose Iglesias was 2.5 and ended up with an NRI...

Tauchman put up 1.1 WAR in 350 plate appearances last year and he’s a trash veteran? I bet if your wife performed fellatio six days a week you’d be whining it wasn’t enough.

29 other teams probably weren’t interested in Tauchman or Slater after Getz overpaid them. The Cubs non-tendered Tauchman even though they needed a fourth outfielder. Are we going to continue to play this gave that Tauchman and Slater aren’t trash veteran players that a rebuilding team should have no business signing?

Marcus Giles

He was the third piece of that trade. He doesn’t need to set the world on fire.

Alex Verdugo sucks. Literally no one else wanted him.

Colson should play better then. He hasn't remotely earned a big league roster spot and putting him in the bigs out of ST would be organizational malpractice.

Injuries are going to happen. Before the White Sox are good again, there's a decent chance bigger names wind up under the knife. Hopefully they recover and become good MLB pitchers.

I feel safe stating this in the present tense.

Trade is shaping up to be a total disaster

I completely agree with this. We've signed so many scrap heap vets, that we're going to have to cut mildly interesting younger guys. None of these scrap heap guys are going to move the needle this year, be here long term, or are good enough to return anything noteworthy even if they have a really good first couple months of the season. I really dislike the strategy. FWIW - Carela can be added to the active roster and 60 day ILd worst case scenario...he isn't getting DFA.

Hey look, caulfield mentioning other people because he can’t fight his own fights. Go figure. im not here to justify my existence to you lmao. No sir, I will post where I want to, hopefully somewhere your nonsense doesn’t permeate.

Only the person who searches “Ishbia” every morning for a desperate attempt to continue posting in this thread cares about what nonsense it is that you just posted. Perfect Venn diagram with you