Harry Chappas

This is how the Bears operate. They have to hire someone at GM who has to run all of football operations and they are cheap so said hired executive has no experience. Bears President has zero football knowledge.

I just posted this thought in a different thread. Nobody is signing. I think Eaton signed because he was familiar with the organization and vice versa. It is one year at a low salary so there is not much risk. What is the largest contract this offseason $15M?

The problem is how high do you go with Springer and how long do you wait? Missing out on Machado and Harper was ok because 2019 was a nothing year. Missing out on Springer and then having limited options is my issue. I like the Eaton signing because I think he fits a need but also because he is actually signed. Lynn and Eaton should not preclude them from making additional moves but is a nice back stop if things go crazy. I don't think they get Spring or Bauer because some GM will do something stupid and that contract will be an albatross before the ink dries. Outside of New York how do those big contracts work out? The whole offseason seems to be gridlocked right now. How long are the Sox supposed to wait it out.

Joc isn't signed so there is no clue what his value is. He also cannot hit LHP. The White Sox wheatear right or wrong are not waiting entirely on the market. They are being more proactive. Hopefully they sign another bat but if Eaton and Engel are the RF platoon with one moving LF for the 30 game Jimenez is hurt that works. I'm hopeful that another bat is signed but the market is not cooperating.

They need a starter if they are serious. They can compete with the roster and would need to grab someone at the deadline.

I agree with you.

I love that JR is now running the team like Jerry Jones. Eaton and Lynn were cost effective moves that made the team better and while Dunning was nice he was certainly movable and by no means proof that there is now a push to get really old really quick. Other than a handful of starters none of which are all that good, nobody has spent any money this offseason. People need to really take a step back. The White Sox are not getting Snell for Leury Garcia and Dane Dunning. The cubs are also not handing off Darvish for Stiever. The Sox got burned waiting on Machado and Harper. My guess is Bauer and Springer are waiting on the Mets. If the Sox sit around and wait on them there could be nothing left and then the pissing and moaning around here would be epic. The White Sox are not going to overpay for Sprigner and Bauer you can call them cheap and that would be fair I guess.

Damenzo's pizza puff (Taylor and Western) takes pizza puff to a whole new level

YEs, I kind of thought it was a nothing story but see what you are saying. The whole Eaton signing is bringing to light the shitshow that was the 2016 White Sox. While I am a White Sox fan I will shit on them when i feel it is appropriate and while not a TLR fan I get that move and the Eaton move. I am not dancing around the house because of it but I am ok with all three moves and especially the Lance Lynn move. From JR's seat just about every manager since Gene Lamont has not been a good hire. Ozzie was until he wasn't and Renteria proved he was a bit over his skis when things got serious but for the rest of the hires there was massive shortfalls and teams not reaching their expectations. I use the term rose colored glasses often when talking about he White Sox and they are really needed here but for the same reason that Dane Dunning was considered the next Shane Bieber yesterday, the TLR signing makes sense to me regardless that his politics are now in question, he has a professional staff and has had teams often exceed expectations. We can go find stories of what kind of person he is and debate how we should all feel about these stories and if we should continue being fans because of it. I say all of that because I think Eaton may have ended things poorly in 2016 but I think the whole thing was a clown show because there was nobody managing the team. Would Sam Fuld or Willie Harris or some other bench coach have been a better hire....maybe...and maybe things would have worked. There is also an equal chance that this coaching staff will put players in the best chance to succeed and Cairo takes over. The is equal a chance that a new manager and his staff fail and the Sox take two steps back. Even if it is Hinch or Cora. Eaton is a low paid platoon RF. If he is as big an assclown as 95% of this site thinks, I do not believe that Hahn or Williams signs him. Hopefully he has learned a thing or two and TLR uses him appropriately. We know Renteria would have him in RF every day.

For their rotation they did but for positional players they seemed youngish.

I have never seen a fanbase with as much contempt for their organization as the Sox. It's baffling.

You expected anything different from Soxtalk. This team will be lucky to win 60 games next year. Dunning is the next Shane Bieber and Joc Pedersen is the greatest platoon player to ever paly the game. 1 year $7M has turned the White Sox fanbase upside down.

Joc is solely a platoon player. Eaton is now a platoon with Engle which is fine and when Eaton/Engle have to play LF when Jimenez is hurt he is serviceable while Joc would be exposed. Let's also see what and where Joc signs for. Eaton only needs to play about 100 games and be league average which I think he is. People are here clamoring for Joc while he is the equivalent of Eaton and probably cost more for more years. The clubhouse stuff is way blown out of proportion and rivaled only by the mantra that TLR is the grandfather from the Simpsons. Somehow Washington won a world series with Eaton so he was unable to decimate the clubhouse. This is a meh signing but I think he is better than Mazara and a new DH that continues to make the lineup pretty stacked. I like his OBP better than Joc's and think overall he is a better player.

Which teams have more than 3 reliable starters? Yesterday the Sox had 2.

Look in the short term then of Hanh's move and if you think he is hitting on 1 out of every four trades then you are right. You can think what you want but the opening day roster is stronger now than it was yesterday and the minor league system lost they #6 rated cost controlled pitcher.

Isn't every team in that boat of an unknown back end of the rotation where it is youth or flyers in that role. Injuries and inability to progress make it so.

How did it work with Freddy Garcia?

So if they have $30M to spend as in the current environment I do not think they will increase payroll year over year, not tying it all up in Bauer as opposed to Lynn, $10M on a RF and $10M on another pitcher or DH makes more sense to me. I still think they extend him as well and it is Dunning for four years of Lynn.

Because their contract is bad before the ink is even dry as will Bauer's.

Stay in context what are the increases to the salaries for next year. Not everyone is making the same as last year that are under contract.

They are spending $8M more after this move. You have been here long enough to know that Bauer was never likely an option and there are couple of reasons why beyond money. The Sox are not getting into a bidding war over a player and I am starting to agree with that model. The Sox will spend within their pay structure. They will most likely spend for a RF and a DH both on short term deals. Did Shark, Wells or Bartolo earn their contracts when the White Sox didn't extend them. If Lynn is looking for 5/125+ in an extension, the Sox will not extend him but 3/50M+ range I think is more likely.

Well this thread did not disappoint. Lynn was not brought in to be an ACE he was brought in to supplement what is already here. Of the top six cost controlled pitchers in the Sox system he has the lowest ceiling thus I am ok with moving him. Dunning was a nice piece that was moveable because there are guys ahead of him and behind him that are as cost controlled and younger. JR has a spending model that fits this move. If Lynn performs next year he will be extended at a nice raise if not extended sooner. He is the bridge to the certainty of Kopech, Cease and Crochet and if extended, further to the Kelly, Dahlquist and Thompson time frame.....not to mention Stiever, Lambert and Flores are hanging around. Lynn is the kind of guy the Sox pay not Bauer, Machado, Harper, etc. I think a person not liking this move is really digging deep to not liking it. Having Dunning under cost control until his age 32 is a little much. I can as easily see Dunning being noon-tendered as much as I can see him becoming Lance Lynn which I think is his ceiling.

My stance on the cubs is they should never be rebuilding. With their budget and resources they should have a down year every now and then but remain competitive.

I use the MLB radio feature on XM when at the lake/driving any distance. Nothing better than sitting outside in Michigan in the summer and listening to any baseball. This makes the White Sox radio feed a better listen.

Makes MLB radio app a better option