Luis Robert signing official

[maggsmaggs]

FWIW Law was just on ESPN and said he hasn't seen him in person but the scouts he's talked to that has have given him mixed reviews. He said every scout said he can run and the power is there but no one is sure he's going to be able to hit. He said is he were in this year's draft he'd be picked in the teens.

Heyman said on the Score that Robert would be taken No. 1 overall. It's scouting, there are gonna guys who love him and others who are more skeptical.

[Kalapse]

Shocking development

 

#WhiteSox translator Billy Russo said 't' is silent on pronunciation of Luis Robert's name. But 'o' is short vowel. Sounds like 'robber'

— Daryl Van Schouwen (@CST_soxvan) May 22, 2017

 

[ptatc]

Does he have a lot of helium?

More like methane.

[flavum]

I'm full on Americanizing his name- Lou Roberts.

[Jose Abreu]

Shocking development

 

#WhiteSox translator Billy Russo said 't' is silent on pronunciation of Luis Robert's name. But 'o' is short vowel. Sounds like 'robber'

— Daryl Van Schouwen (@CST_soxvan) May 22, 2017

Well that was unexpected. Luis Robber?

[southsider2k5]

You should see some of the young bats Law and company passed on when he was with Toronto to take guys like dDavid Purcey and Ricky Romero. Tulo, Ellbury, Adam Jones...the list goes on and on. For a guy so many take as top opinion, he sure comes up empty a lot. 19 year olds who have never played in the US are going to be hard to project. 17 or 18 year old HS hitters...the same. A lot of people didn't even bother with Mike Trout. Theo Epstein, who didn't pass on him, admitted he would have passed had Trout been on the board when he picked. There were questions about Manny Machado. There were questions about Jose Abreu. If the kid comes in, works hard, he has all the talent to be a star. Remember those old leaked scouting reports about Frank Thomas? Said he wouldn't hit .250.

 

 

There are going to be scouts that love guys, and scouts that question the same guy, and the guy they love, the other scout might not like. There are very few guys all of them are sold on. KW and the Sox people watched him. And liked him enough JR is going to spend $50 million on him. They are obviously sold.

 

To be fully honest, the job that Kenny Williams has been best at is scouting. When he gets involves there, he is usually right.

[southsider2k5]

Dan Hayes‏Verified account @CSNHayes 6m6 minutes ago https://twitter.com/scottmerkin

1. No Luis Robert talk from Rick Hahn. But did say #WhiteSox have done a lot of good things through draft, trade and international over 11 mos.
3. Daryl Van Schouwen‏Verified account @CST_soxvan 6m6 minutes ago Rick Hahn talked to media here in Phoenix. Won't take questions on Luis Robert before it is official.

[SoxAce]

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottmerkin/stat...800574833938432

 

That should put an end on how to pronounce Robert questions.

[Dick Allen]

Well that was unexpected. Luis Robber?

If he is a bust, JR will think it is an appropriate pronunciation.

[Quin]

Billy with the curveball

 

What if we call him Luis Robbie, like Ricky Bobby.

[caulfield12]

Someone needs to ask his translator about that Instagram "hat switch" the last 12 hours before he signed...if it was intentional or not, the agent's (Mercedes) idea, etc.

 

Reminiscent of one of those college signing day deals where he shows up with a Cardinals hat on and pisses off one fanbase completely, like Michigan and OSU recruiting wars.

Edited May 23, 2017 by caulfield12

[Y2Jimmy0]

Looking at Sox international pool for the 2016/2017 Period, they were close to spending it all. They started with $2,973,500. Traded for $756,300. That gives them a total of $3,729,500. They signed Josue Guerrero ($1.1), Mieses ($428K), Comas ($425K), Carabello ($350K), and Sosa ($325K) and 20 players total. They are probably close to $1 million under their pool. If Luis Robert gets $27 million, then the Sox pax taxes on $26 million of it for a total of $53 million.

 

Jeff Passan told Spiegel and Parkins that NL teams were telling him on Saturday that Sox were trying to trade for international bonus slots. It'll be interesting to see if they can get more and lessen the tax load. They have until June 15th to do so.

[harfman77]

FWIW Law was just on ESPN and said he hasn't seen him in person but the scouts he's talked to that has have given him mixed reviews. He said every scout said he can run and the power is there but no one is sure he's going to be able to hit. He said is he were in this year's draft he'd be picked in the teens.

 

So basically he is Jordan Adell?

 

[caulfield12]

What would Hunter Greene go for on the open market?

[Y2Jimmy0]

What would Hunter Greene go for on the open market?

 

 

He would exceed what Robert just got by a lot

[Dick Allen]

He would exceed what Robert just got by a lot

It would depend which teams could bid, and if there was a matching penalty. If some of the big boys were able to bid, I don't think Robert is a White Sox. Just like with Abreu, the teams that bid high, had first base pretty much covered so they were out. Boston was actually thinking about putting Abreu at 3B if they had signed him.

Edited May 23, 2017 by Dick Allen

[FT35]

It would depend which teams could bid, and if there was a matching penalty. If some of the big boys were able to bid, I don't think Robert is a White Sox. Just like with Abreu, the teams that bid high, had first base pretty much covered so they were out. Boston was actually thinking about putting Abreu at 3B if they had signed him.

 

Yikes.

[oldsox]

Looking at Sox international pool for the 2016/2017 Period, they were close to spending it all. They started with $2,973,500. Traded for $756,300. That gives them a total of $3,729,500. They signed Josue Guerrero ($1.1), Mieses ($428K), Comas ($425K), Carabello ($350K), and Sosa ($325K) and 20 players total. They are probably close to $1 million under their pool. If Luis Robert gets $27 million, then the Sox pax taxes on $26 million of it for a total of $53 million.

 

Jeff Passan told Spiegel and Parkins that NL teams were telling him on Saturday that Sox were trying to trade for international bonus slots. It'll be interesting to see if they can get more and lessen the tax load. They have until June 15th to do so.

Let me get this straight, JImmy. You're saying Sox have signed 20 international guys in 2016-17?

[oldsox]

He would exceed what Robert just got by a lot

That blows my mind.

[southsider2k5]

Let me get this straight, JImmy. You're saying Sox have signed 20 international guys in 2016-17?

 

This is very typical. The biggest signings get publicity on July 2, but most fly under the radar and are $10's of thousands of dollars instead of hundreds. If you go and look up the stats of the Sox DSL team, a lot of them will fall into that category.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Let me get this straight, JImmy. You're saying Sox have signed 20 international guys in 2016-17?

 

 

Yes. It's right here in Bed Badler's international review: http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...white-sox-2016/

[chitownsportsfan]

Let me get this straight, JImmy. You're saying Sox have signed 20 international guys in 2016-17?

 

Most these guys are probably just one in a thousand makes the majors types. Probably some concerns about their real age with a few as well.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Here's Keith Law's writeup on Luis Robert move: http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=7110

 

Law isn't really a fan and mentions many of the deals that haven't worked out for Cuban hitters.

He also said he hasn't seen Robert play but will once he goes to a team. He said he talked to scouts though and this is what he heard: Hit tool not better than Moncada which is concerning because still real questions about his swing and striking out 27% in AAA. Athletic, plus runner, above average bat speed and raw power. Every single scout Law spoke with had major concerns about Robert's swing and his ability to make contact against even average fastballs inside or up. Robert has a "dead hands" start that results in no load and his swing doesn't involve his lower half. Speed and range for CF with mixed reports on his arm. Contract is commensurate with what guys like him have gotten paid though.

 

[Dick Allen]

Here's Keith Law's writeup on Luis Robert move: http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=7110

 

Law isn't really a fan and mentions many of the deals that haven't worked out for Cuban hitters.

He also said he hasn't seen Robert play but will once he goes to a team. He said he talked to scouts though and this is what he heard: Hit tool not better than Moncada which is concerning because still real questions about his swing and striking out 27% in AAA. Athletic, plus runner, above average bat speed and raw power. Every single scout Law spoke with had major concerns about Robert's swing and his ability to make contact against even average fastballs inside or up. Robert has a "dead hands" start that results in no load and his swing doesn't involve his lower half. Speed and range for CF with mixed reports on his arm. Contract is commensurate with what guys like him have gotten paid though.

We heard the same things about Abreu. A Frank Thomas leaked scouting report said a lot of the same things. Guys usually don't hit up and in fastballs very hard anyway.

 

Again, Keith Law was with Toronto from 2003-2006. Check out their drafts and some of the guys they passed on.

 

You may start to wonder why so many people think he is some sort of guru.

 

If Robert wasn't so hyped, I wouldn't be surprised if Law had a different opinion.

Edited May 23, 2017 by Dick Allen

[shipps]

Here's Keith Law's writeup on Luis Robert move: http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=7110

 

Law isn't really a fan and mentions many of the deals that haven't worked out for Cuban hitters.

He also said he hasn't seen Robert play but will once he goes to a team. He said he talked to scouts though and this is what he heard: Hit tool not better than Moncada which is concerning because still real questions about his swing and striking out 27% in AAA. Athletic, plus runner, above average bat speed and raw power. Every single scout Law spoke with had major concerns about Robert's swing and his ability to make contact against even average fastballs inside or up. Robert has a "dead hands" start that results in no load and his swing doesn't involve his lower half. Speed and range for CF with mixed reports on his arm. Contract is commensurate with what guys like him have gotten paid though.

 

I think he definitely needs to work on his swing but that shouldnt stop anyone from wanting this guy with the natural skill set he obviously has. Like every 19 year old he will have to work on somethings. LOL Its hilarious that people would say they arent high on a guy because of various negatives that can be improved upon with time and coaching.