Chicago White Sox Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 51 minutes ago, Falstaff said: Would you happen to know how long the Sox have control over: Mike Vasil Shane Smith I am assuming Houser gets traded by the deadline because he is a F/A in 2026. Should be 5 years of team control left for each of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 55 minutes ago, Falstaff said: Would you happen to know how long the Sox have control over: Mike Vasil Shane Smith I am assuming Houser gets traded by the deadline because he is a F/A in 2026. Both will be free agents in 2031. And yes, Houser will be a free agent after this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, Falstaff said: Would you happen to know how long the Sox have control over: Mike Vasil Shane Smith I am assuming Houser gets traded by the deadline because he is a F/A in 2026. Both are 5 years past this one, assuming nothing weird happens. They do have the Rule 5 roster requirements this year, which include not being on the IL for too much of the season. So far, so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Both are 5 years past this one, assuming nothing weird happens. They do have the Rule 5 roster requirements this year, which include not being on the IL for too much of the season. So far, so good. Both Vasil and Shane Smith have spent 90 days on the active 26-man roster, so if either one went on the IL for the rest of the season, they'd still revert to the Sox with 3 options at the end of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Robert did a nice job of avoiding injury this season til now. Is this the longest he'd gone in his career healthy? From Opening Day til the time of this injury? I bet so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 6 hours ago, greg775 said: Robert did a nice job of avoiding injury this season til now. Is this the longest he'd gone in his career healthy? From Opening Day til the time of this injury? I bet so. Arguably, he’d have more trade value if he missed most of the first half of the season to injury than he does now. Because at least the mystique of a star player could live on and a team would “just have to get him healthy.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 31 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Arguably, he’d have more trade value if he missed most of the first half of the season to injury than he does now. Because at least the mystique of a star player could live on and a team would “just have to get him healthy.” I didn’t even really think of that but honesty, probably true haha he would have time missed and teams could think injuries are causing the down year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 49 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Arguably, he’d have more trade value if he missed most of the first half of the season to injury than he does now. Because at least the mystique of a star player could live on and a team would “just have to get him healthy.” Based on the assumption GMs not named Chris Getz are naive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 3 weeks until the trade deadline. What’s this dude going to return? One 45 FV prospect if the Sox eat like $5M of his remaining contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 22 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: 3 weeks until the trade deadline. What’s this dude going to return? One 45 FV prospect if the Sox eat like $5M of his remaining contract? I think they'll include whatever the amount is for the buyout (if a team decides to go that route at the end of the year). They are not getting back much either though. Might as well have just tossed in $10M cash in the offseason and moved him considering that's about what they will have paid him when they trade him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 If they are willing to kick in money they could get a low level prospect but there's also the chance he doesn't get moved. Getz specifically talked about that to the mainstream media recently. I think it would be foolish to keep him, anything is better than nothing in my opinion, that low level prospect may turn out to be something, but these are the White Sox remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: If they are willing to kick in money they could get a low level prospect but there's also the chance he doesn't get moved. Getz specifically talked about that to the mainstream media recently. I think it would be foolish to keep him, anything is better than nothing in my opinion, that low level prospect may turn out to be something, but these are the White Sox remember. Getz must be so mad that JR didn’t let him include a lot of money to get Arroyo. Missed his chance on another slappy infielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: If they are willing to kick in money they could get a low level prospect but there's also the chance he doesn't get moved. Getz specifically talked about that to the mainstream media recently. I think it would be foolish to keep him, anything is better than nothing in my opinion, that low level prospect may turn out to be something, but these are the White Sox remember. If they don't dump for him literally anything in the next 3 weeks (including cash with him or not), it feels like they may just pick up the option and gamble again. Otherwise, what would be the point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If they don't dump for him literally anything in the next 3 weeks (including cash with him or not), it feels like they may just pick up the option and gamble again. Otherwise, what would be the point? I don’t think there’s a chance they pick up the option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 9 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t think there’s a chance they pick up the option I think there is but it's not high. I'd trade Beni's salary for Robert's extension 10/10. We'll see how they play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 9 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t think there’s a chance they pick up the option Another org might take the chance he rebounds into a semi-productive player, but there’s no way JR let’s Getz make that gamble. He’s gone at the deadline for whatever, or he’s gone at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: If they are willing to kick in money they could get a low level prospect but there's also the chance he doesn't get moved. Getz specifically talked about that to the mainstream media recently. I think it would be foolish to keep him, anything is better than nothing in my opinion, that low level prospect may turn out to be something, but these are the White Sox remember. He's getting traded. There's no way that they pick up a $20 million option. He's a great fit for the Phillies. They are horrible against LHP and he has a 144 wRc+ vs LHP with great defense. There's still some value. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 27 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If they don't dump for him literally anything in the next 3 weeks (including cash with him or not), it feels like they may just pick up the option and gamble again. Otherwise, what would be the point? Well, if they can't trade him and then pick up his option, that's probably a sure sign that Ishbia is throwing money at the team. If every team who needs a RH bat says no at the deadline, I don't know what 2 more months of anything is going to prove. Right now, he's a guy who is prone to 4-6 months of sub-.600 OPS production. And really, picking up his options and hoping for him to rebuild his value by TDL 2026 is like spending around $18M for a 45 FV prospect. They could just spend that on the next Japanese kid this off-season and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 33 minutes ago, fathom said: Getz must be so mad that JR didn’t let him include a lot of money to get Arroyo. Missed his chance on another slappy infielder. Yeah, no matter what you want to say about the 23/24 off season, not moving him again this off season with the Reds deal was bad, and has only gotten worse as this season has gone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 34 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If they don't dump for him literally anything in the next 3 weeks (including cash with him or not), it feels like they may just pick up the option and gamble again. Otherwise, what would be the point? Bold of you to assume there is a point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's getting traded. There's no way that they pick up a $20 million option. He's a great fit for the Phillies. They are horrible against LHP and he has a 144 wRc+ vs LHP with great defense. There's still some value. Good point. I had to check if his stats against lefties were just fluky good for this year only but he has a career line of .297/.372/.507/.879 against them. He’s just been very mediocre against righties in his career, unfortunately — .246/.292/.440/.732. Edited July 8 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 28 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's getting traded. There's no way that they pick up a $20 million option. He's a great fit for the Phillies. They are horrible against LHP and he has a 144 wRc+ vs LHP with great defense. There's still some value. Yeah, they can start him every day but bat him lower against righties. Add him to the top against lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Im as sick of this topic as I am of watching Robert swing at sliders 6 inches outside. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: Im as sick of this topic as I am of watching Robert swing at sliders 6 inches outside. The sliders will continue until morale improves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Good point. I had to check if his stats against lefties were just fluky good for this year only but he has a career line of .297/.372/.507/.879 against them. He’s just been very mediocre against righties in his career, unfortunately — .246/.292/.440/.732. 108 wRC+ against RHP in 1,512 PA’s prior to this season isn’t what I’d call mediocre, just not nearly as good as his production against LHP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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