pcq Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: They’re going to have to spend some real money on someone. Wheeler and/or Grandal are the ones that make the most sense. The Sox are short hitters in this game. Best o luck tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 hours ago, pcq said: The Sox are short hitters in this game. Best o luck tho. So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M? Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, mqr said: Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though. There is a 0% chance that the Sox payroll is under $90M. I would bet every dollar I have on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, mqr said: Expect? No. I do think it's a legitimate possibility though. Remember how easily the White Sox wasted $40 million last offseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Remember how easily the White Sox wasted $40 million last offseason? If they end up striking out at the B+ tier, I fully expect them to do the find warm bodies thing again and end up <100 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, mqr said: If they end up striking out at the B+ tier, I fully expect them to do the find warm bodies thing again and end up <100 mil I could see a warm bodies offseason of something like Calhoun, Encarncaion, Wacha and Wood. The team's payroll would still be over $90M in that scenario. To be clear, I am not in the slightest bit advocating for anything resembling that offseason - it would be truly disgusting - but there is no way the Sox aren't spending $40M+ in new AAV on FA/trades this winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: There is a 0% chance that the Sox payroll is under $90M. I would bet every dollar I have on that. And you would certainly win that bet because once we sign Cole, we'll already be over 90 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: So you think the Sox are going to have a payroll under $90M? Thinking more whether they would outbid 3-4 teams for a guy. Don't build me up Buttercup. I hear the Dodgers will be spending. No worries about the Red Sox. Can Rick pull the trigger or is that Kenny's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I could see a warm bodies offseason of something like Calhoun, Encarncaion, Wacha and Wood. The team's payroll would still be over $90M in that scenario. To be clear, I am not in the slightest bit advocating for anything resembling that offseason - it would be truly disgusting - but there is no way the Sox aren't spending $40M+ in new AAV on FA/trades this winter. Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO? He already accepted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does that $40 million include Abreu's raise if he ends up ultimately accepting the QO? No. And as Sleepy said, its been accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 What I meant was if he ACTUALLY ends up with that $17.8 million one year salary, rather than the reported 2/$25-30 or 3/$40-45 million extensions that were being negotiated (and probably still are). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Man would it be nice for an early Grandal signing to really set the tone for this offseason. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. Edited November 21, 2019 by Soxnfins 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Soxnfins said: Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. I wouldn't want to go much higher on that Grandal contract at all. But I could go higher on Wheeler. That too is kind of my ideal offseason now too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: I wouldn't want to go much higher on that Grandal contract at all. But I could go higher on Wheeler. That too is kind of my ideal offseason now too Yeah that's about top on the Grandal deal, I think 16-17MM per is his market, especially without a QO attached. I still think the Sox try to keep Wheeler under $100MM, but that's jmo. Edited November 21, 2019 by Soxnfins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) I like where you guys are going. My views have adjusted in the past few weeks. I'd be ok with Grandal + Wheeler as an offseason. I'm really coming around on N. Castellanos as well. I like Castellano's age and his hitting ability. Would be OK to have an OF of Cast + Eloy + Roberts and an IF of Grandal/Abreu/Madrigal/Anderson/Moncada. No weak spots there, just a lot of youth inconsistency and of course suspect defense. Pitching we'd have Giolito/Wheeler/Kopech/Lopez/Cease which can be decent if Kopech/Cease/Lopez develop. Then maybe we ought to sign a RP or two. Edited November 21, 2019 by iWiN4PreP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Castellano and Eloy in the OF together with a rookie in between could cause our young rotation some headaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 1:26 AM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: What does that matter? He would be the same age in 2020, whether we signed him in 2020 or back in 2019. Except we now have our 2nd RD pick RHP Matthew Thompson in our system, whom we would have had to forfeit the right to draft in 2019 if we signed Grandal last year. If the Sox sign Grandal this off-season, that would be the best case scenario we could have had with him. Best case scenario just happened my friends. This was brilliant. 😍😍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Best case scenario just happened my friends. This was brilliant. 😍😍 Thanks milwaukee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 9:09 PM, poppysox said: I said #1 position player. The forum has beaten to death the starting pitchers, RF, DH and RP's needs and I have commented numerous times on the various possibilities. My feeling is that Grandal/McCann/Collins handles the DH problem while upgrading the catching. I am not a big fan of one dimensional DH types. For those who told me I was going to be disappointed...I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 6:07 AM, Soxnfins said: Grandal & Wheeler would be a legitimate perfect offseason for me. Figure out RF via trade. Those two fill two very obvious and holes. Grandal 4/68 Wheeler 5/95 Sign me up. Wasn't too far off I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 what would it take to get hanigar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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