MLB 2021-2 off season thread

[caulfield12 4,085]

1 hour ago, bmags said:

Going from Coors to Comerica will be interesting. 

See Juan Gonzalez…although the fences are significantly closer now than they were back in the early days of the new stadium. 

[Flash 381]

8 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I’ve heard Tigers won’t go over $300 million. If that’s true, they aren’t getting Correa. I think Story ends up there 

Depends on # of years.

[maloney.adam 995]

1 hour ago, Flash said:

Depends on # of years.

That contract may hamstring a team for years especially if they are trying to build a long term championship caliber team. Correa is good but is he really worth 300 million or more? 

Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam

[Harold's Leg Lift 2,218]

9 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I’ve heard Tigers won’t go over $300 million. If that’s true, they aren’t getting Correa. I think Story ends up there 

I think they'll get it worked out with some creative opt outs.  I think Story goes to the Rangers. 

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

25 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

That contract may hamstring a team for years especially if they are trying to build a long term championship caliber team. Correa is good but is he really worth 300 million or more? 

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a 300 million guy.

[Look at Ray Ray Run 7,240]

5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a 300 million guy.

He's been banged up a lot which would be the concern, but he's been worth 5.38 fWAR/162 in his career and he'll be 27 pretty much all of next year.

To put that number in perspective, Machado had been worth roughly 5.28 fWAR/162 in his career prior to his contract and he was roughly the same age (I believe 2 months older).

Obviously Machado had a better history of health, but Correa definitely should be in that ballpark.

Also, Harper had been worth 5.28/162.

Correa is really good.

Edited November 17, 2021 by Look at Ray Ray Run

[SonofaRoache 2,123]

6 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a 300 million guy.

He doesn't have the offensive shine you hope for in 300 guy, but I guess he is technically worth it. The biggest concerns would be health and lack of 35 HR potential. But still a big time gamer. 

[maloney.adam 995]

https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/11/16/carlos-correa-derek-jeter-criticism-free-agency

Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

15 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/11/16/carlos-correa-derek-jeter-criticism-free-agency

Correa is right though lolll

[SonofaRoache 2,123]

2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Correa is right though lolll

Yep. I remember arguing with a Yankees fan in 2005 about how Uribe was a better defender Jeter. He cited the 2004 GG for Jeter. 

[Y2Jimmy0 2,689]

46 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a 300 million guy.

2 hours ago, Flash said:

Depends on # of years.

He really shouldn't be taking less than what Francisco Lindor got. 

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

He really shouldn't be taking less than what Francisco Lindor got. 

Hearing any fun secrets? lol.  Do you expect us to be active prior to the CBA?

[bmags 8,571]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I think they'll get it worked out with some creative opt outs.  I think Story goes to the Rangers. 

That would be a nice defensive infield. 

[maloney.adam 995]

25 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Hearing any fun secrets? lol.  Do you expect us to be active prior to the CBA?

I agree, it’s pretty silent this morning. 

[35thstreetswarm 1,378]

1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a 300 million guy.

Imagine paying 300 million dollars for an utterly contemptible and repugnant cheater.

[HakunaMachado 53]

Just saw an article segura wiped all things Phillies on social media and trade is incoming. Is that the swap for Kimbrell?

[southsider2k5 11,639]

5 hours ago, bmags said:

Going from Coors to Comerica will be interesting. 

I think Correa going from Minute Maid to Detroit would be similar.

[maloney.adam 995]

14 minutes ago, HakunaMachado said:

Just saw an article segura wiped all things Phillies on social media and trade is incoming. Is that the swap for Kimbrell?

Here is the article.

https://thatballsouttahere.com/2021/11/17/philadelphia-phillies-trade-rumor-jean-segura/

[maloney.adam 995]

Don’t know who this Bob Ostroski guy is but it sounds like he’s saying it’s for Kimbrel. He misspelled his name wrong. This is very weird. Probably just another silly rumor. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam

[Snopek 343]

37 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

Imagine paying 300 million dollars for an utterly contemptible and repugnant cheater.

Paying a lot of money for a very good player is pretty easy to imagine.

[bmags 8,571]

I. love. the. offseason.

And then there’s the quote Segura put in his lone Instagram story. It appears to be the Spanish translation of an Edward Snowden quote:

“Saying that you are not concerned about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying that you are not concerned with freedom of expression because you have nothing to say.”

Segura is essentially asking people to value privacy, presumably his. The reason fans think it has to do with being traded rather than a personal matter is the removal of all baseball content from his page.

[turnin' two 1,176]

2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

He really shouldn't be taking less than what Francisco Lindor got. 

That's interesting.  I know if I was a GM or owner, I'd much rather invest in Lindor. 

 

Edit: Full disclosure, that is most likely due to Correa being a stinky cheater pants. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by turnin' two

[ChiSox59 4,989]

Segura for Kimbrel would be alright if we can get Conforto.  Its an idea that's been discussed here.  

edit: also realize this guy is probably a nothingburger, but its a scenario that does have some merit. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by ChiSox59

[Quin 4,292]

16 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Don’t know who this Bob Ostroski guy is but it sounds like he’s saying it’s for Kimbrel. He misspelled his name wrong. This is very weird. Probably just another silly rumor. 

That's because he's just a Twitter rando.

[Bob Sacamano 2,916]

4 minutes ago, Quin said:

That's because he's just a Twitter rando.

Yeah sounds like he’s just guessing.