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I'd probably put a decent wager on the White Sox signing 0 of those guys.

Love how people are chastising posters for reacting to a 2 month sample because they had a single good game.

Good lord. They didn't give a 30+ year old SP $13 million for a year where they have no chance again. Calm down.

A left handed middle of the order bat is not the most important thing in the history of all lineups. Teams win without them.

I think Bumgarner could have a late career resurgence. Though, Farhan Zaidi is there so I'd expect better info to get to Bumgarner, and maybe he's just stubborn. But I hate the sinker/cutter mix he has moved to, and maybe there is a lack of control to it, but he just pounds the middle of the zone with them. Everything is down, and it diminishes his curveball. He still has great spin, it just seems like he overreacted to the loss of velo on his fastball.

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Absolutely sincere. I can’t believe people continue to under estimate the abilities of Avi. He came up young and struggled early but continues to get better. He will win multiple MVP awards before he retires and certainly be enshrined in Cooperstown. People lament the trading of Tatis Jr. but letting Avi walk for nothing will be viewed as a much larger mistake in the long term.

Luis Robert has to take a shit Twitter: Definitely a broken back or something

Yeah, Hahn already wasted enough money on garbage like Nova ($9M), Alonso ($9M), Herrera (2-years / $18M), Jay ($4M), and whatever they had to pay Santana to leave after 3 starts. Jesus, that’s $40M+ total wasted in one offseason. But Keuchel at 1-year / $13M for the Braves is a nice deal. Hopefully, Hahn will learn from this going forward, start signing difference makers over veteran has-been’s, and improve on his FA signings. But I sincerely doubt it.

He pull a Paul Pierce?

Starting to wonder about twitter.

Collins .261 in AAA with a .907 OPS. Like it.

"Andrew Vaughn has raw power? I'll show them why @Lillian will love me!"

He is clearly pissed that Vaughn was drafted. Dude has damn near hit more homers this week than his entire minor league career.

I think they'll land Glass and Gladney for sure. Trenkle and Krogman are the two I'm waiting for. I'm doing the tracker updates this year though so feel free to let me know if anyone hears anything.

The Cubs are in a place where the Sox hope to be in a few years. The Cubs ponied up for Lester before their contention window opened up. The Sox had the opportunity to do the same with Corbin, Machado, or Harper but walked away once they saw the asking price. Where is all this pitching in the Sox minors? If we have so much of it, why are we seeing dudes like Nova, Banuelos, and Covey as mainstays in the rotation?

Moncada is on pace to have a 5.3 WAR season. He has been really good.

The Cubs are putting their $ where their mouth is unlike the Sox so far. The Cubs also spent before their contention window was open unlike the Sox. This offseason is very pivotal if the Sox plan on competing anytime soon. Will the $$$ be spent?

No, it doesn’t mean that. You are loading your opinion and presenting it as fact. Dude that’s not a fact they are rushing him or is it fact they are promoting him because of his line. Everything you said is 100% pure speculation, which is fine. I tend to think Madrigal is a guy who will have a similar line no matter what level he plays at: close to .300 BA, close to .350 OBP and a who cares slugging %. He will still be successful in most base stealing attempts. He will score tons of runs. If somebody fast bats in front of him, there will be a lot of 1st to 3rds. He will be the guy everybody loves up in the 9th because you know the ball is being put in play. He wasn’t drafted for some OPS line. People gotta come around to that. Now if he doesn’t do the shit I mentioned we’ll have problems.

Everyone was so focused on Machado as the perfect fit that they lost sight of the fact that Harper was the better fit for this team all along. Sox really missed out on Harper at a reasonable rate of ~$25M AAV to boot.

On a bright note...Covey has had 3 respectable starts in a row.

Needed to find an adult to fly with him

If they didn't send Giolito down last season, they're not sending Lopez down this season. /thread

When Nick Madrigal gets promoted to the White Sox, where should he bat? I think the answer would generally be lead off, but I like the idea of him batting 9th. Assuming our top prospects pan out, the top/middle part of the lineup could look something like this: 1. Robert 2. Moncada 3. Jimenez 4. Vaughn 5. Abreu I like the idea of Madrigal batting 9th, with that top/middle part of the lineup coming up after him. Thoughts?

The Twins have shown you can win without signing premium free agents and finding solid mid tier talent. The problem is Hahn is not good at finding the mid tier talent like the Twins have found.

Let's go Madrigal! And man does W-S have even less to follow prospect wise especially on the hitting side. Pretty much just Steele Walker (although personally I like Dedelow).

Robert-Madrigal at the top. Tarp off the field.

My father was a librarian, eat a bowl dude.

He did not immediately release him, he immediately traded him for Carl Everett.

If teams offer to pay for HS kids College if they sign, I don't know why more HS kids don't sign right away. If I knew I could go to college for free in a year or two if I sucked, I'd take the Signing bonus money and give it a shot, knowing I had free college as a backup. Why not try to live your dream? I'd imagine academic atrophy for guys that aren't that bright is a consideration.

If**** Madrigal gets to the White Sox. We really penciling this guy in? He didn't do anything special in A+. Let's pump the brakes here

I would not be against a Puig addition for the right price.

Agreed. If you can't get a bunter out, then you don't deserve a no hitter.

I'm old enough to remember when people thought Machado was a much better fit for this team than Harper.

The Cubs are in a completely different situation than we are. Also, when the Cubs spent, they needed starters bad. The White Sox are unlikely to follow that model as they actually have pitching in the minors. And Heyward was a bad signing. Spare us the Cubs comparison. We might have to wait a little bit longer than the Cubs did, but that's the way things go sometimes. Stop comparing the White Sox to the Cubs.

Nope, I post about the failures of our ownership and front office... factual stuff.

I would love a Rendon signing. The Sox could move Moncada back to second. They could use Madrigal as a jack of all trades utility man or use him in a trade for a guy like Grienke. What is stopping the Sox from signing one of those guys? Is JR really gonna sit on the wallet again this offseason and keep rocking a sub 100 million dollar payroll?

What does the Cubs' spending have to do with ours? They are at a completely different part of their window than we are.

I would steer clear of Avi. We've seen this show before. He will have a good year this year and then likely struggle again with staying healthy in the years ahead.

Basabe has hit 40 homers in his minor league career spanning over 2000 at bats. He will never be a 20 homer a year guy in MLB.

There is no pro-rating. Here are the contract details: https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1136451348868882435?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-6867396822925748664.ampproject.net%2F1905292322390%2Fframe.html ”Craig Kimbrel's deal with the Chicago Cubs is for three years and $43 million and includes a fourth-year option, sources tell ESPN. He'll receive $10 million this season and $16 million in 2020 and 2021. There is a $1 million buyout on a club/vesting option for the fourth year.”

Chances of a 4th round pick making it to the majors are not high. Especially a raw high school kid. If he makes it as a pinch runner that's a win.

I said the same thing above. But ultimately, it doesn’t matter. It would be “the Sox” fault. One would have to question their desire to win if they use the excuse that they are limited by their current and future budget after that Forbes article came out earlier this year.

It's a good thing that relief pitcher ERA doesn't matter.

Disagree. I'm trying to win the game, I don't care one bit about your no hitter.

I expect he'll get the obligatory 10 games in A ball (like Madrigal did), but spend the majority of the rest of this year at A+. If he rakes, he'll open next year at AA, and from there it's not crazy to think that he could be called up in July or August if he's OPSing .900+. Even if the production is just good, and not great, I think the Sox would like Vaughn to be their opening day first basemen in 2020.

Eh. Third Base, And short are stacked, Abreu hasn't been that good, Colome is 11th in relief pitch ERA. McCann should probably go. They have guys that have legit cases, but most of them wouldn't be snubs if left off.

The first thing any and all players should do before being called up is demonstrate that they are ready. It is not useful to pick an arbitrary time to call them up. Once they are ready, we can debate service time issues. Remember everyone laughed when it was said Eloy needed to work on defense? He got hurt on a awkward defensive play. Robert needs to play, adjust to breaking balls and learn how to run/steal/slide without hurting his hand. Madrigal just moved to AA. Vaughn hasn't even signed yet. Who knows how he adjusts.

Without doubt...the answer to the question is NEVER.

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