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what a bunch of crybabies in here. TLR crybabies, especially. Grow up, theyre 10 games up in mid august with an important stretch of games coming up.

JFC, no. It’s not “crybabyism” to point out a handful of ridiculously easy decisions a child could have made that our manager didn’t in either game. Those decisions put us in a much worse position to try to win and winning HFA is ridiculously important on a team that struggles with elite competition. It’s one thing when we just get beat by better playing, better managing, better pitching. it’s quite another when a nincompoop leaves his best weapons on the bench because of some bygone hunch from 1974 that is a statistically losing play.

Now we're getting off topic

Then he should have let someone else manage these 2 games, and he take family leave.

All this means to me is that they should be trying to win as many games as possible against the bad teams before having to play 4 good teams in a row. We might be wishing we didn't punt this game when we're struggling to win games in the next 2 weeks.

Leaving Anderson, Moncada, and Robert on the bench in the 9th, down only 1 run. It's going to be awesome when they don't have home field advantage and lose the deciding game IN Oakland or IN Houston... Forget about the Indians, that's over.

If only we could replace TLR with one of the numerous message board managers lol, we would be 40+ games over .500.

Not blaming Tony. He’s toying fairly clearly. But one run games are exactly where in game management makes a difference. Belittling that is wrong.

Go fuck yourself Tony

Just odd to hear anyone say that. Tons of boomers use basic modern tech and are fully aware of Youtube and Smart TV's and laptops. I would imagine there is a small segment of them perhaps over 70 that haven't mastered it yet but if you have a computer and have no idea what Youtube is you are really out of touch.

The White Sox are only a couple games behind for getting home field advantage in the playoffs but yeah these games are essentially meaningless. Alrighty then.

Getting shutout by a minor league squad is not acceptable. All the other stuff is bs.

Tony is missing tomorrow to attend his sisters husbands funeral. Thats why he made such poor decisions today and yesterday. Time to move on now.

Getting one at bat in the top of the ninth is going to make a big difference in the rest pattern of Robert, Moncada, Anderson , all of which can tie the game with a big fly? Is that too much to ask of guys making millions?

im not saying its making much of a difference one way or the other.. because i dont think it really is but the people that think TLR is a good manager (this year) in these threads crack my shit up.

Sox flat out punted this game. Been happening far too often of late.

Baseball Hall of Fame Person: Ruiz is the correct call in a 0-0 game. Kimbrel also the correct call in a 0-1 game. What a fucking clown.

1-3 in the lineup are 2-12 with 8 Ks any further analysis of this game is worthless that is where it starts and ends Offense sucked the last two days. Kopech hasn't been lights out this month to warrant the weeping and gnashing of teeth over him not coming in for the 6th and now it looks like Kimbrel and Hendricks will pitch the 8th and 9th Every issue with this team all season is the lack of offensive consistency and not the manager.

Kopech has pitched 1.2 IP since August 3rd. Hendriks has one appearance since August 1st. Kimbrel has 1.2 IP since August 1st. If these guys are only allowed to pitch in the 7th inning or later when the Sox are ahead, they'll be WAY underutilized and it'll cost the Sox very winnable games.

This broadcast reminds me of a more adult version of the Nickelodeon playoffs broadcast that the Bears had last year.

That's OK. We'd love to see the millennials try to adjust the antenna and use a manual tuner to try to get a decent picture on channel 32 or 44 back in the 70's. You all would be Cubs fans just because it was easier!

I live in Dubuque, tried to get tickets but did not win. If anyone coming for the game needs assistance/suggestions I am here for ya. It will be hot as hell in those bleachers! Will be a lot of fun for those going. They are working on it being an annual event so hopefully that transpires. I retired in June and finally got to my first Sox game in July, the double header with the Twins. Started following the Sox around 1980 when Harry Caray siill did the broadcast.

Don't buy this. They aren't doing an MRI if there aren't some kind of symptoms. They may think the symptoms are nothing and doing the MRI out of caution but he felt something. Hopefully it is nothing that the break can't help.

If the Sox win the World Series this year (or next!) it will be in large part due to the 2018 MLB Draft that currently features zero players on the big league squad. There is a lot of emphasis on homegrown talent, but cashing in on draft picks while they're still prospects can be just as important, especially when you need to make players timelines fit into a championship window. Here's a look back to the 2018 draft. Round 1(4): Nick Madrigal Current Team: Chicago Cubs (Traded with Codi Heuer for Craig Kimbrel) Revisionist historians (Steve Stone) have labeled this pick a reach, but most experts either mocked the pick for the Sox or had the Phillies selecting him at number 3. Madrigal was taken one pick ahead of Jonathan India who is having a 2.3 WAR season for the Reds and two ahead of Jered Kelenic who was a top 10 prospect preseason before his rough start. Maybe the defense and baserunning were overrated as Stone has said, but that is not the White Sox concern anymore. After Madrigal's injury, the Sox needed a second basemen for the title run and acquired Cesar Hernandez who is signed until 2022 making Nicky "Two-Strikes" expendable. This pick will be one of the more panned selections (unfairly, IMO) in recent team history if the Sox don't win a ring during this title window. Cashing in the pick on a hall of fame closer is still a pretty solid return. Certainly better than the Atheltics drafting Kyler Murray at 9 over Grayson Rodriguez (11), Jordan Groshans (12), and Logan Gilbert (14). Round 2(46) Steele Walker Current Team: Texas Rangers (Traded with Dane Dunning for Lance "Cy" Lynn The Sox drafted a 4-YR college outfielder out of Oklahama in lefty Steele Walker with the third pick of the second round. He was selected two spots ahead of Simeon Woods-Richardon and before mid-season top 20 prospect Brennan Davis (pick 62), but is one of the better picks of the round. In his first full year of pro ball, Walker slashed .284/.361/.451 with 10 homers in mostly High A. His year 23 season was wasted by COVID, which is a shame because a lot could've been learned by how he handled AA. Still, no regrats, as he still had enough value to be flipped along with Dane Dunning for Lance Lynn. Dunning has been pretty good this year (108 ERA+. 3.58 FIP) but Lance Lynn has been an ace for the Sox this year AND signed a very reasonable extension. Walker just got called up to AAA after a respectable 103 wRC+ in AA to start the year. Fangraphs has his as a 45+ prospect, which would make him the top hitter in the system. Walker is going to need to go on the Rangers 40-man roster this year, which is of course less of a consideration for a rebuilding team. If Lynn struggled this year, or didn't extend, there would always be questions about this trade (sans a ring of course). But as it stands, this trade, and therefore this pick, was a success. Round 3(81) Konnor Pilkington Current Team: Cleveland Guardians (Traded for Cesar Hernandez) The Sox went for there third college senior of the draft, this time selecting a pitching in Mississippi State lefty Konnor Pilkington with the 3rd pick of round 3. If you were doing a redraft of the third round Pilkington would be one of the first few off of the board after Cal Raleigh (SEA), Kyle Isbel (KC), and maybe Owen White (currently on CLE). This was a pure scouting play for the Sox as Pilkington had a 4.47 ERA his last year with MSU, doesn't have elite "stuff" and was generally not a very highly regarded prospect at the time. Pilkington spent most of his first full year in High A where he had a 4.99 ERA and 1.44 WHIP after dominating low A. Advanced analytics took notice of his .343 BABIP against which put his FIP at a respectable 3.72. Despite losing the 2020 season to COVID, Pilkington has taken a leap at AA this year. In his 16 starts, Pilkington has a 3.25 ERA and .92 WHIP over 72 innings and had 84 K's to 25 walks despite being almost 2 years young for the level. Pilkington turns 24 next month, but will likely being competing for a spot in the rotation some time next year. Pilkington was traded for 2 cheap years of a gold glove second basemen that is an above league average hitter. To get that level of return for a third round pick is a success by any standard. Still anyone thinking that the sox "stole" Hernandez may be too focused on pre-season rankings. Maybe the Sox will regret this long term, but Hernandez will be a big part of this title window. At the very least, Hernandez playing for the Sox instead of against them in the remaining games with CLE helps with HFA. Round 4 and Round 5 At this point in the draft, and arguably earlier, its hard to fault any misses on players because each team has had a few goes at the guys. The Sox drafted high schooler Lency Delgado in the fourth who has a .569 OPS in Low A as a 22 year old. The fifth round pick, Jonathan Stiever was a successful pick as he has already cracked the big league roster. Stiever Dominated his first full season in 2019 with a 3.48 ERA with 154 Ks to 27 walks over 145 innings between Low and High A with most of the success in high A. Stiever made two spot starts with the Sox in the lost COVID year, and while they weren't particularly successful, he was able to convince the Sox to skip AA in 2021 and start his year 24 season in AAA. In hindsight that may have been a bit aggressive as he has a 6.19 ERA in AAA this year (with a 4.65 FIP) in 16 starts. Had he had started the year in AA, perhaps the numbers would look a bit better. Even so he's someone that will likely repeat his role as a spot starter with the big league club in 2022. Round 6(168) Codi Heuer Current Team: Chicago Cubs (Traded with Nick Madrigal for Craig Kimbrel) Originally drafted as a starter, Heuer was quickly converted to becoming a reliever. He dominated his way through the minors in 2019 and was dominant with the big league club in 2020 as a 23 year old. It is rare for a sixth rounder to make the show, and rarer yet to do within 2 years of being drafted. This year, Heuer's command took a step back as his H/9 (and ERA) doubled. Still, Heuer had enough value to be a considerable piece in acquiring Kimbrel. By any standard, Heuer was an absolute hit as a sixth rounder. Following the 6th round, Romy Gonzalez was by far the best pick and was a great find in the 18th round. Although 4 out of the 5 "hits" have been traded in other organizations, the 2018 draft is a great representation of why homegrown talent is not the only indicator of a successful draft. With Madrigal's injury, Heuer's struggles, and Walker and Pilkington being 1-2 years away from contributing, the Sox were not going to be able to capitalize there draft in year 1 of the title window. Kimbrel, Hernandez, and 1/2 of Lynn was a solid haul for a draft class. I think the 2018 draft class will be one of the more talked about classes on the board for years. If Lynn were a disaster or refused to re-sign, Walker and Dunning would be a haul for a 1 year rental. That said, even the biggest prospect huggers on this board can support that trade. The trade to the Cubs changed the Madrigal discussion from whether he was the right pick, to whether he was too much for Kimbrel. If the Sox win in the next two years, that subject will be moot. If they dont and Madrigal becomes a 3-4 WAR guy on the north side, it may be a poor-mans Eloy-Cease for Quintana trade. Pilkington going to the Sox's biggest rival has a chance to be quite annoying, but turning your third round pick into 1.5 cheap years of an above average middle infielder is a huge haul. Hahn was an excellent seller, but this is his first run as a buyer since the Shields trade. The talent recognition in the draft was excellent, but whether the internal evaluations on the players as prospects was correct will be answered over the next few years. As I've said, none of that matters if the Sox get a ring

It's funny because TLR has 2 championships in the 21st century.

This is more pathetic than our hitting today.

Guys, give TLR a break. He was settling up at the bar during the 9th

Twins team era is near 5 and we can't muster one run?

Well played, Goodwin.

Yeah it’s a 0-0 game in 6th with everyone available in the pen, yet they went to their 6th best guy to face the middle of their order.

Losing 2 1 run games without any of Kopech, Hendriks, or Kimbrel pitching definitely wouldn't be the managers fault Making sense not allowed here

Collins is on fire!

Or. Or. He's not paniking and acting like every fucking pitch is the bottom of the fucking 9th in the 7th game of the fucking Worls Series.

Tough to win when the offense scores zero runs.

Thank God YT switched it to where you can listen to the local radio guys instead.

ESPECIALLY now given this situation. with Keuchel still sucking...IF Rodon isn't healthy come October....what is the plan? Kopech could start with 2/3 innings the next week or two and work up to 4/5 innings by end of the season...and then be the #3 (if Rodon isn't back) or #4 if Keuchel falls off a cliff. Instead he is our high leverage guy...on a team that has 2 elite closers, Bummer, Tepera and Crochet. It's so stubborn.

really short sighted on Kopech, having him throw an inning every other day and then thinking he can just jump into 100+ innings next year is dumb af.

Kopech is a going to be SP. He has thrown 45 innings this year and is one pace to throw 65 innings. Rodon has thrown 110 innings. If Kopech has any prayer of starting next year, he absolutely should be taking at least a handful of starts down the stretch. Hope the Sox do that.

"Should he be shut down" and "do we expect the Sox to shut him down" are two completely different things, chief.

Revisionist history is always wrong. We just had a poll here that asked Should Rodon be shut down for an extended period? 77.66% of responders said NO.

This is exactly why give Rodon a big multi year deal is absurd.

What channel is the Youtube on?

For every millennial joke that gets told, it will be fun watching those same Boomers try to figure out how to watch today's Sox game.

I'm okay with limiting his innings. Just odd that they advertised he'd be pitching in the Field of Dreams game then put him on the IL.

Who could've saw this coming, aside from just about everyone?

Pray for people over 60 years old trying to watch the game today.

No. 3B is keystone. Teenage boys aren't trying to get to SS with a girl.

It is a shame. Break through infections are everywhere. The government was too premature in stating that vaccinated individuals could go without a mask. This virus and its variants are too novel and it is better to err on the side of caution.