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They’re really nothing alike. At least Bellinger has legitimate value in the field and base paths. Dunn had none.

Bellinger sucks. Already hoping too many guys bounce back as is.

I like the idea of Bellinger but the dude’s first love is smoking pot. Combining him with a guy addicted to Dominos pizza (Moncada) might be risky.

Bruce Levine doesn’t even know what year it is.

Front office needs their clubhouse snitch unfortunately

Dead god this organization sucks.

Yeah I mean, I guess I just need to see it to believe it. If I were Rick I’d underpromise as well. He’s gone the over promise route and he gets skewered for it daily. I don’t really give two shits about what Twitter blowhards like Josh Nelson, Eloy v Wall, NBB and the foodies have to say on the budget. But yeah, if for some reason $180M is the number, may as well trade everyone not named Luis Robert, hope he has a monster season, then trade him too. Because you can’t build a competitive roster with $10M when you have 1 OF and 4 SP, and all the main offensive issues from 22 are still present, less perhaps the best hitter on the team. and fwiw, I don’t really think projecting the same payroll as 2022 should be labeled optimism. I think it’s just the baseline projection until it’s not, despite the meaningless early offseason chatter.

I’d acquire one of the left handed hitting OFs and a SP and go to battle. Might be tough to do with $15M. I will assume Sox will operate with $190-200M payroll until they don’t. Which means they have more like $25-30M to spend. If Sox can only spend $15M this offseason, not only are they their biggest impediment, but they should just trade everyone of value because they aren’t going to win jackshit.

I honestly can't even be mad at the Padres anymore. The Sox are the authors of their own failures.

Luis was the Domino's guy, Mocada was (allegedly) Twinkies. Nonetheless, team munchies for sure.

What the White Sox could/should be but we have an owner too worried about losing money….you know what doesn’t lose you money….putting a winning ball club out there year after year

2023 Chicago Munchies!

Which would be ridiculous. It shows he has no confidence in his people building a team that fans will be interested to watch at the ballpark or on TV. Why are those clowns still making decisions? This half assed approach has worked once in 42 seasons. Why is it still being attempted? White Sox fans deserve ownership committed to winning. If you are going to go for it, go for it. Or sell the team to someone who will. That way we all win. Sox fans can follow a team who believes winning is more important than be totally loyal to dear leader.And JR can spend the rest of his days counting his money.

His name is probably Leury Garcia.

I don't understand how this thread is still going with Bellinger being a free agent.

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Abreu would have so much fun with that Padres team, hope it happens.

Jorge Alfaro is a guy I wouldn’t mind picking up as a backup.

I would be ok with Abreu going to SD. They are a team actually trying to win and Pito deserves to go to a functional organization.

Lol, no.

What exactly would this accomplish? Other than creating a new hole to be filled w/o actually filling a need?

Good luck Hahn, no chance he can find a OF AND SP for $7.5M a piece. Even trading prospects, they still can't add to much with whomever they acquire.

The extent to which the Sox are relying on someone who might not even be a consensus top 100 prospect to step in and immediately be a productive player is insane.

Can't wait for both to get hurt playing in meaningless games.

It's funny, because if you use the standard that is always used for tax cuts, this is WAY more efficient. The spending rates of the people who still have student loans are WAY higher than where most of the tax cuts of recent years have gone. But of course that gets forgotten here.

Eh - I don’t like rapist having jobs like this one does.

This organization is a joke

Or no one else wants to work here any more?

New manager doesn’t even have say over his staff. Same old same old.

Maybe he'll stop pulling every inside pitch into the ground next year.

There’s no reason to spend $180 million if you’re doing that.

Honestly? Yeah.

I meant with the bat. But yes you are right in that sense. Still I would stay away

They can definitely replace 1 WAR Giolito with another 1-2 win pitcher for Giolitos money. Problem is, that doesn’t make an 81 win team that lost 2 of its 3 biggest contributors any better. And they can definitely use a guy like Graveman or Lopez in the closers role, but for a team that already has a shallow bullpen and would have been worse last year if not for an elite performance in 1 run games, same problem. These are fine ways to come back and win 78 games next year.

People underestimate how much it hurt the Sox not having a healthy engaged Timmy at the plate. Getting prime Timmy back makes a massive difference.

I’m surprised the Sox only made this list once ?.

They can get much better defensively in the OF with upside for offense if they just work out some deals with DFA' guys and find out if Outman is available. With better OF defense this team at least won't be losing so many games defensively and that works better in close games than terrible defense. If you go with Colas, see if you can trade for Outman and bring in the DFA guys Garrett and Aquino. That's adding a good amount of OF defense 2 LH bats and 2 right handed bat all with power, defense and depth. Colas, Outman and Garrett could all be ROY candidates for pretty cheap depending on if the Dodgers are willing to move him for perhaps Hendriks. Of course they could all bomb too but at least if they do bomb offensively, which I honestly doubt, at least you're going to get pretty good defense and occasional HR's. The reason all these guys are available is because they have some obvious holes in their games but defense and big time power are not among their holes. Eloy can then be a full time DH and hopefully stay healthy and then you also have more full time big time power in the lineup a lot more. Vaughn at 1st might also hit for more power. Hahn has to show a pulse soon though . Spend the little money you have on pitching. Trade Hendriks., If you want to take your chances with Adam Frazier at 2nd base thats ok if getting him doesn't interfere with most of your money spent on pitching. But otherwise its Romy or Sosa. Of course a few guys from the 40 might be removed in trading for the DFA guys but I like starting with upgrading the defense and power with younger guys for cheap and spending money on pitching while subtracting the money from the BP . That will hurt the BP some but Lopez to closer and work on the middle relief depth by trolling for cheap upgrades there also. Not exciting but it's what needs to be done. Plug defensive holes in the OF, get younger, hope the core gets larger with Colas and Outman and perhaps Garrett. Hit more HR's, allocate funds away from the pen and into starting pitching and pray for bounce backs, health and a Cease-like progression from Kopech.

And they just keep doing this sort of thing over and over. Surely Andrew Vaughn can step in and be an adequate outfielder. Surely Gavin Sheets can be our big left handed bat (and an adequate outfielder lolol). If it works out, they’re the smartest guys in the room (and they’ll be sure to let you know it). And if it doesn’t work out, there aren’t really any repercussions, at least not ones they seem to care much about.

I don’t regularly watch the Jazz, but it sure does seem like their coaching staff figured out how to get more out of Lauri. Carter Jr seems to have figured out how to be an effective scorer elsewhere as well. Meanwhile Vuc looks like s%*#. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the Bulls new FO.

This is a great sentence.

That's quite an accusation there.....or did autocorrect strike again ?

So many terrible front office decisions the last few years - Williams draft pick - Lavine extension - Vuc trade

Yes, those are my favorites as well. I've never purchased a Reinsdorf era jersey/cap (1980-current uniforms). Still have my 1976-1980 Sox cap, but it's retired (both personally and appearantly not even for sale anymore). I only wear / purchase the 1971-1975 red cap with white lettering. The caps were previously sold under the Cooperstown Classic series, but are now sold under the New Era brand. I don't like any combination of black/dark navy blue with red and white. The only red/white/blue combo I'll wear across any sport are Montreal related (Expos and Canadians). Looking at the historic lettering on the White Sox website, I also like the 1932-1935 home logo. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/history/logos-and-uniforms Favorite home uniform: Favorite Road Uniform:

Which is funny because literally none of those players are really outfielders.

Let's be equally real. They spent a lot of money this year. They spent more than the Astros did this year. They spent more than the Astros did in 2017. They spent more than the Nationals did in 2019. They spent more than the Braves did in 2021. They spent more than the Cubs did in 2016. They spent more than the Royals did, ever. They actually did spend money. They did what we wanted them to do on the total budget line. They finished 6th in payroll - the only one of those teams who was 6th in payroll was the Cubs, all of the recent "complete a rebuild then win a title" teams spent less. They actually spent money. They did so in an unfathomably stupid way.

People like to crap on Moncada but since his first full season in '18 with the Sox he played 149 of 162, 132 of 162, 52 of 60, 144 of 162, and 104 of 162. Whether or not he is fully healthy, the guy still plays most of the time.

Bellinger has more defensive value, is a better base runner, and still hit for above average power last year. Sign me up for him.

Look, if you want to have a baseball debate, let's do it. If you just want to get your feelings hurt, find somewhere else to do it, and quit ruining threads because it hurt your feelings that I disagreed with you on a meaningless baseball topic a year ago. The last thing I want to hear is you crying more. I quit responding to your posts a year ago when you got so hurt last time around. When you directly respond to me, of course I am going to respond. If that bothers you, you control your own reply button. You can even have your insults to make you feel better.

You move along. How often do you have to be told that defensive stats are not stats that can do used in short sample sizes One year of stats is never enough. Your ignorance is astounding. Your baseball knowledge terrible.

You bore me .