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I don’t mind Jose being critical here at all. He didn’t need to say the Astros were some sort of family, impossible to know that three weeks in, and that seems like shade for sake of shade. I would be pissed too if I gave everything I had for 10 years and had a dysfunctional last year in a dysfunctional organization to show for it. Based on all he did for the White Sox, I will give him a pass. It is interesting to see that Ron’s 5 year plan of poisoning of the board’s perception of Jose Abreu has finally bore fruit with other posters. Imagine thinking Jose Abreu, man who outplayed his 3 year contract by leaps and bounds, was somehow also responsible for TA’s distractions, Robert’s mystery injuries, Eloy not being able to stay in the lineup, Moncada’s apparent lack of interest, AJ Pollock being bad, Vaughn and Sheets sucking out of position, Leury being overused. The goalposts are unbelievable for this guy.

As a kid in Chicago Public Schools in the 1970's those Straight A / Perfect Attendance forms were my entree into Comiskey Park. As long as you didnt piss off the teacher too much you got a form. You got to pick two games for free just send in the form and a SASE to the Ticket Office. My sister had no interest in baseball so I was good for four games each summer. I would always pick a Thursday night Twinight Double header which would start at 5:30. I would take the Archer bus with two ham sandwiches in a brown paper bag and meet my dad at the ballpark. Simpler times, great memories, esp 1977.

He was lowballed because he ran his course on this roster. Having Jose would have been great, but it was no longer realistic based on the roster construction. The FO is to blame for that, but letting the much older and declining player leave was the right call. The Sox beating the Astros offer would have been an atrocious use of resources.

The game could've ended in a tie when Burger hit a DP grounder to short but beat the throw to 1st to keep the inning alive. Ramos came up next with his swinging bunt up the 3rd base line to score the runner score Erick Gonzalez from 3rd who had walked after 1 out. Sox had 6 steals and 1 caught stealing. 2 successful double steals. Grifol managed the game down to the last batter. LH Duke Ellis ,who was the only one to get caught stealing, was supposed to hit but a LHP was on the mound so Grifol PH Ramos. I'm sure some of managers would've let Ellis get his 1st AB and settled for the tie but he put Ramos in a position to succeed and he came through.

My opinion is Abreu having been a consummate professional and all around good guy can say whatever the f*** he wants. We all know he isn’t wrong anyway

This is actually good news to me - because at least we have a new sheriff in town in terms of managing the clubhouse. So if it really was as bad as some of us imagined - that means the benefits of potential upside with change are that much better

Shades of Forest Gump

It’s truly amazing how bad of a hire Tony was

Definitely at the time. But pre ASB that was about as fun as baseball could be considering we already won and didn't have to prove anything. That Iguchi game where he hit 3 home runs (but we still lost) was just so much of the type of fun we were having. Then just slow grinding performance loss.

Walk-off swinging bunt. Sox win

Eh, I think this one is the MLB interface more than the Sox

It shouldn't be this difficult, but for the Sox it's PAR for the course. They are so 1980s Here's how I finally found access (via Twitter)

Just Baseball's White Sox guy Elijah Evans is posting lots of great content from Camelback, including both kinds of BPs:

This was a great share. I have always thought he has more potential than Cease. If both hit their peak this year....wow.

What the f*** are the people - the same people who have been rightfully bashing the organization all off-season - even taking umbrage with here?

At first, I liked the Tony hire. Until I didn't. I am a fan, but he should have stayed retired. And Jerry should have let him. They must have been thinking great movie instead of great baseball team. I don't care how rich Jerry is. He's still a putz.

Haha, that's a fabulous memory. I had forgotten about the perfect attendance tix....props to my dearly departed Mom for always sending me to school no matter what. Those obstructed views always seemed to block the best plays ?

Of all the things we could hope for, a huge ace like jump from Kopech is around the top of such list. Along with so many other things. This team is certainly one we can dream on. Each of the following hopes are all within reach… Eloy hitting 40 bombs Robert putting up 7 WAR Anderson being near the top of the BA pack Vaughn hitting 25 bombs Clevenger not getting castrated Colas top 3 ROY Elvis giving us the best year at second since 2005 Grandal hitting 20 bombs Moncada putting up 4 WAR Cease top 3 Cy Young Hendricks coming back by the all star break Beni hitting for a high average with 20 bombs and completing a good defensive outfield Lynn giving us 180 IP Of course I’m not saying all of that happens but none of those things are unrealistic. Safe to say we have just as much in the “uncertainty” column. Hopefully baseball will be fun again in 2023 on the south side and we won’t be fucking drunkenly asleep by the first inning again this year. That poop was so absurd.

That stinks.

This is Grandal with Katz and Kopech. They are saying Kopech looks "unreal" and "phenomenal" at least in that pen session, only his 4th of the preseason.

lmao I remember him doing bat drops for 350 foot fly balls.

Andrew "no power" Vaughn

Vaughn...so washed up. ?

Think he read yesterday's game thread?

Dylan Cease is so damn likable.

I'm one of the biggest Jose supporters ever, but dude, that was your locker room. Shut the f*** up. It wasn't Tony's locker room, it wasn't TA's or Liam's. It was Jose Abreu, everyone tied the Latin pipeline of talent to him and him taking them to the next level. Unfortunately Jose wasn't the leader we thought he was.

I think a player can only do so much as a leader and Jose appeared to me to handle the role well. Jose was an exemplary player to me - a great teammate like a Baines or Buehrle was. Not always very vocal but respected and followed. But he's not the manager and could only do so much.......... When I watched the Last Comiskey video about the 1990 team it was so impressive about how these players on the 1990 White Sox praised Toborg and how he led a team that was picked to finish last to win 94 games - he got the most out of that roster. I'm hoping Pedro has some of that magic in him...it's an intangible that's hard to measure as opposed to game decisions etc.

This team is fucked. Good thing they kept the guy who lectured the fans on not being positive enough for this scum bag organization.

Even for us that expected it to be awful, it was catastrophic. Exponentially worse than any of us even imagined.

Shouldn't Abreu as one of the "leaders" (as many of you call him), take responsibility for the animosity and "weren't a family" in the clubhouse? Isn't that kind of the "leaders" job?

"Sometimes", Abreu said,"when you're at a place where maybe you're not being respected to the point where you think you should be, you just have to go somewhere else." Hahn's bullshit lowball offer to one of the franchise's best players didn't sit well. Shocking

If the Sox don't at least advance to the ALCS, then I really don't care whether they make the playoffs or not.

There is no positivity up my ass, either, Jack. It would have to come from there because what the team generated last year sure wasn't positivity. It was more like what is generated at the morning constitutional. Really stunk up the joint. Talkin' 45 horsepower fart fan. Go you White Sox!

Terrible move. Padres will regret this in 2033.

These mopes chapped my ass so bad last year that I could not possibly care less where they finish this year. I'll watch. I'll boo and his and woo hoo just like always. They are not gonna make me care. Not even a little bit. Go Bears ????

White Sox are in a good spot at 15. Could be a spot for college pitching or one of the better prep bats due to the amount of college bats who look like top 10 players. It'll be tough to pass on Waldrep or Lowder

Cry more Jose, you b****. Good riddance.