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When the only two teams in baseball with a worse record than you are actively trying to lose while you are running a $186 MM payroll, you are in fact the worst team in baseball. Good job Rick. (Bump)9 points
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Rick Hahn is obviously a smart guy. Putting together baseball teams , however, isn’t one of his aptitudes. How much more of this is going to be met with inaction? KW said accountability isn’t a problem. Well then show us what you mean. Cut the bullshit. If you can’t get fired , you should be embarrassed enough to resign.5 points
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My emotional investment lies in seeing how bad it can get. Not because I have faith it will change anything, but simply because these fucks deserve every ounce of our scorn, disdain, indifference, and pubic derision for how utterly incompetent they are at building a winning baseball team.4 points
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When Levine says something accurate and meaningful it will be the first time.4 points
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Greg, I realized this week that it was too painful for me to keep watching. The last 2 games I have not watched and just tracked game here and there on phone. My kid is a die hard and watches every game. He's heading off to college in fall and has decided he can't watch anymore. There is no joy in the household with sports until bears start. We are suppose to go to LA in June to watch white sox v angels and New York in July to watch white sox v Mets and now reconsidering it. This organization and this team has killed our enthusiasm for baseball.4 points
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It's a lottery. The bottom three teams all share the best odds for first pick (16.5%).4 points
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For the record, I originally hated the hiring of Pedro Grifol as I thought a guy a bottom tier organization passed over for their own job told me all I needed to know. Then at his press conference he said all the right things and hired a semi interesting staff. I convinced myself that maybe he was going to be a good fit. It’s as clear as day now, though despite a horribly flawed roster, Grifol is not the man fit for the job. This team has quit and there doesn’t seem to be anything he can do to right the ship. I guess that’s what you get when go cheap and end up with an inexperienced guy despite being in the “middle” of your competitive window.3 points
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Update on Andrew Benintendi, the player Rick Hahn gave the largest contract to in franchise history to be the finishing touch on a “championship caliber” team: fWAR = -0.1 wRC+ = 69 OPS = .621 OBP = .309 ISO = .057 HRs = 0 xwOBA = 8th %tile OAA = 18th %tile I thoroughly look forward to the next 4 1/2 years of our slap hitting LF.3 points
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no. If i was drafted by the white sox id refuse to sign. Far riskier to play for this organization than to sit out a whole year3 points
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I hate to stop watching but this is too brutal for human consumption. I just can't see how anybody can pay to attend these games. You could go to the various minor league games around Illinois. I'd almost puke forking over real money to watch tonight's thriller.3 points
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It's called fundamentals, which is an unknown word to this organization.2 points
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One thing they have to do is bring in the man from third with less than two outs. They are so horrible at that.2 points
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Cease did a good job and the Astros managed to be worse. And Montero out of their bullpen would fit into Hahn’s bullpen perfectly.2 points
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I was less than impressed with the hire too, but he did talk a really good game at the presser and afterward. Couldn’t be more obvious to me now that he’s in over his head. Whether he has already lost the team or he never really got the needed buy in, who knows. But he seems pretty powerless to do anything to stop the free fall.2 points
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I find myself in a very odd place. I gave up watching baseball almost entirely for years (I’d watch the later postseason games occasionally). This season I’ve had more time schedule-wise to watch games and I’ve had the urge to watch games. I have absolutely no faith in the team to do well and I don’t really even care how they perform, but I’m just happy to watch baseball again. Well, kind of half-watch and play on my phone or do household chores. Honestly, they’ve been so bad as to be entertaining to me.2 points
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You're absolutely right this will happen. It's horrible and not fair to the loyal Sox fans who have to suffer through Jerry's ignorant stubbornness for not making that FO change sooner. I am almost certain there is not one of the other 29 team owners who would tolerate this long of a horrible dysfunctional front office. Since the 2013 season including 2023, the Sox have had 8 of 11 seasons under .500, with only two playoff appearances and zero playoff wins. What other FO over 11 seasons gets to keep their job with that resume...other than a Reinsdorf owned team?2 points
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No matter where the Sox land here, it will be another Nick Madrigal or some under slot waste.2 points
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May 13, 1957 - Sox pitcher Billy Pierce became the first member of the team and the first Chicago athlete, to ever appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The caption read, “Pride of Chicago, Billy Pierce.” In 1957, the year the magazine cover came out; Pierce went 20-12 with an ERA of 3.26. It was his second straight 20-win season. He led the league with 16 complete games, had four shutouts, two saves, threw 257 innings and had 192 strike outs. May 13, 1975 - Sox pitcher Jim Kaat’s 12-game winning streak ended as he was beaten 3-2 in Baltimore. Kaat had won his first five decisions in 1975 and his final seven decisions in 1974. He’d become a 20- game winner in both seasons averaging 290 innings pitched in those years. He’d also make the All-Star team in 1975. May 13, 1982 - SportsVision made its debut. The first regional pay cable service devoted exclusively to sports began operations with a game at Comiskey Park versus Milwaukee. The service was the brainchild of Sox co-owner Eddie Einhorn and while brilliant, was ahead of its time. The technology wasn’t there and more importantly, the attitude on the part of the fans wasn’t ready to pay for something they had been getting for free all their lives. At best roughly 20,000 fans subscribed to it. The service also included broadcasting games of the Bulls, Blackhawks and Sting (professional soccer). The decision to go to a pay service caused popular announcer Harry Caray to leave the team after 11 seasons and go to the Cubs despite an offer by the Sox that was worth more before the 1982 season began. SportsVision, in its original version, lasted until the end of 1983, then it was sold to the Cablevision Company and turned into SportsChannel-Chicago.2 points
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More than anything, I’m going to keep hammering home that the Sox simply don’t have high standards when it comes to any of this. It is worth reemphasizing. Successful organizations in the MLB are decisive to a fault, and make very major moves when disasters like this happen. The White Sox are anything but decisive.2 points
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I just tune out goofballs who complain about attendance. It is an old refrain, and anyone who complains about it is a crybaby. Blaming the fans is an old practice. I'll remember that the next time Sheets drops a fly ball in right field.2 points
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https://ontapsportsnet.com/white-sox/if-you-come-we-will-build-it-chicago-white-sox-offseason-spending-bruce-levine-attendance-comments Found this just now. Just listening to Levine complain about White Sox attendance after their abysmal season riddled with a complete breakdown in fundamentals last year makes one's blood boil. He wasn't even accurate about the 2022 attendance numbers...off by over 100,000. Then comparing with the Cubs? Any fans who purchased season tickets again after last year should be considered super fans and something just short of heroic/courageous to maintain any degree of optimism in the face of this type of systemic failure with no plan or clue how to reverse the situation...not even the most outspoken critics of Sox fans from post 2006 through 2019 could blame the fans these past two years. All the blame has to go on JR KW Hahn Getz and the players themselves. Period.2 points
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The best the Sox can do in their current situation is to burn the organization to the ground again- hopefully with different and better decision makers. Go through another full rebuild, and hopefully after the 2027 strike, the team is in a better place. 2028 is the next chance for an enjoyable Sox season. That’s a fact.2 points
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They will easily lose 90. It’s not a good team playing poorly. It’s a bad team. 40 games in with their record, their manager publicly says they are playing with no urgency. If it isn’t there now, it’s not going to show up any time soon. With their minor league situation, this is a team that is going to suck for many years. This regime will eventually have to go and will leave a bigger mess than perhaps any regime in Chicago pro sports history, and that’s saying something.2 points
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Don’t worry about the offense, we’ve been told it common to struggle like this when installing a new “system”. if the Sox won every game on the road-trip, I have the feeling RH would have shown his face yesterday. These guys show who they are every day. The front office is as gutless as the roster.2 points
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I hope we end up with the worst record in baseball, that payroll is hilarious considering how bad the roster is2 points
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This Sox team is truly awful. They suck in every aspect and don’t play hard at all. Grifol really should be fired.2 points
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Pretty sure that's an image of him actually getting hurt ?2 points
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Yeah, that tracks. I had them at closer to 90 losses than 90 wins, but holy s%*# this has 100+ losses written all over it.2 points
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Benintendi is such a bum. Can you believe we will have to ride out five terrible years?1 point
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They drove Lambert into the ground. He was one of the best Sux relievers in April.1 point
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This game was over when they seemed to have France on the ropes and Elvis hit a lazy fly ball on the 1st pitch.1 point
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Why let Grifol and Hahn keep their job another day? The team clearly hasn’t responded to Grifol’s coaching this year. As for the team, Hahn has put together a bottom 3 team. They’re about to be 13-27 and no one besides Colas and Diekman has lost their spot.1 point
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43 years of history shows this has not been, isn't and will never be the case. JR is involved in every single major decision on and off the field regarding this franchise.1 point
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