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Nobody gives a f*** about athletes baby mama drama. I can assure you of that. Flipping off opponent fans is still legitimately hilarious no matter how many times this website tries to make it a thing. Get out of the soxtalk bubble.9 points
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What a fall from grace. McG and our Chuck are going to be mad, but it’s seemed pretty apparent TA has been one of the problems the last couple of seasons. I hope he gets his head on straight and gets good again, but he is an awful Major League Baseball player now.8 points
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I don't like picking the low hanging fruit here, But you think the baby mama drama and flipping off fans means nothing and apparently by the response in "likes" you got others agree. But it couldn't be farther from the truth. If isolated, those things mean nothing IF he continued to play well. However all the drama, the fight, all coincided with terrible baseball. Tim's whole world has fallen apart and we're supposed to think all the drama didn't affect his play ? Everything has been a disaster with him. I said I'd decline his option a couple of weeks ago. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Let's pay a player falling apart at the seams $14M just to see if he can get a new head, a new body and suddenly there's a happily ever after ? Poor Tim is just misunderstood. You scolded Lipman for being in a Soxtalk world but you're in some fantasy world where TA is somehow marketable and worth $14M. It's preposterous. Like I said when I said to decline his option. Let's see what the rest of baseball is willing to pay him now. You'll get your answer then about how good and marketable he is. I think he'll be lucky to get 2 years $20M. I expect less than that. Feel free to save this for when he signs with someone else.7 points
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Depends on your definition of "marketable." Guys flips off fans, appears to lose concentration of the field, has embarrassing off the field headlines and can't stay healthy. If that's your definition of "marketability" I admire you.7 points
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Getting rid of all the distractions in the locker room. So far so good Getz.7 points
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This breaks my heart, but now if we could just lose Moncada and Eloy...5 points
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I fully expect TA to be an All-Star now with another team this year because that's how our fortunes work.5 points
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I was not predicting things to end up the way they have the night Tim hit the walk-off homer against the Yanks in the Field of Dreams game. ?5 points
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If he can dump Moncada and has to pay half of that salary for next year + half buyout, I don’t care what we get back. Just do it.4 points
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I just don't understand why we didn't pick it up and trade him? Or trade him last year? We get $0 of value from this we end up in the same place. Just, why. What are we doing.4 points
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For the 1st time in my life I just don't care anymore. This owner ruined baseball and basketball for me.4 points
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Marketable LOL, maybe if he became the spokesman for Trojan condoms.3 points
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When his off the field antics cause him problems ON the field, when his antics with umpires and fans lead to suspensions, which means he isn't playing... I can assure you fans DO give a damn. Plus it's an embarrassment to an organization that does plenty on their own to embarrass themselves. They don't need any help. Bottom line, the guy appears to be part of the clubhouse cancer issue and like I was told by a source for my story on the state of the Sox last November: "Anderson needs to go because the organization gave him the keys to the car and he drove it off the cliff. And he’s getting up in years." I don't care if he hits .335 with 25 home runs next year with the Braves or Marlins or Brewers, he wasn't going to impact the disaster that is going to be the 2024 season. He needed to go.3 points
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I liked TA, and I also like this move both for the White Sox and TA. The org needs to move away from him and he needs a fresh start. I would love for people against this to explain to me the maximum value Tim Anderson (given his last two subpar seasons, his age, and his power outage) hitting well next season would net the White Sox in trade. 2024 is dead; there’s no way this team can win as constructed; so it’s not likely picking up his option helps us win a title. TA’s max value is prospects, and not top prospects, IMO, so I think this proposition was either paying $14 million hoping to get two mid tier prospects that pan out to decent major leaguers in two years - with a decent chance that Tim is actually just done and you waste $14 million - or you’re going to keep $13 million of that $14 million and know you can spend that money better elsewhere this season and in the future. seems like a no brainer to me3 points
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He'll be more remembered getting knocked the f*** out by Jose Ramirez at this point.3 points
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Kinda surprised they didn't roll the dice on a bounceback and possible trade. It is what it is. I couldn't be more apathetic on what next year's team will be. All I know is it will dreadful.3 points
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Considering Kim Ng herself said KW was the one who orchestrated the deal, I don't know how you can say it wasn't... unless you think she was lying.3 points
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Actually both of them have been saying Anderson has been part of the problem and in my opinion they are right. Guy has a world of talent and a 10 cent head. His distractions and off the field antics can be someone else's problem. The Sox are going to be brutal next year so at least try to get some guys who care.3 points
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At first I thought take the chance, but after thinking about it, it’s exactly the type of thing the previous guys used to do and would get burned. Maybe he does come back and be the guy he was 3 years ago. So what would you get for him? Not enough to gamble $13 million on IMO. Clearly Getz knew no one would trade for him now.3 points
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While it’s possible, the gamble on that happening wasn’t worth $14 million to the White Sox. The long term positives are low, maybe he becomes tradeable but doesn’t return much. The negative is “lost $14 million again on a guy who was bad.” The scale tips strongly to the downside risk there. This was the right move so compliments to whoever made it.3 points
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No free agent in their right mind would want to be a part of this steaming pile of s%*# of a franchise. The only players the White Sox are going to be able to sign are players who are only care about money or players who can’t get a job anywhere else.3 points
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He's marketable because he's used in marketing campaigns. I didn't decide that, personally. Crying over flipping off opponent fans will never not be funny to me, still. Next were going to hear about how that man doesn't play the game right. Jose Ramirez probably did more damage to the whole marketable part than anything, but not sure if that's true.2 points
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Last year his fastball was clearly down in velocity and that made all his pitches less effective. While he still had strikeouts, he also gave up a lot of hard hit balls, rivaling what he gave up as a rookie. As of right now, he’s a pitcher who will give you innings but who isn’t an elite performer in those innings. As an opposing GM, I am not paying the price of a guy in the Cy Young race for him because he hasn’t shown me he can be that with his lower velocity last year, and he hasn’t shown me that he can get his velocity back up. In opposing GM mode, your offer is roughly 1 top 100 prospect (not top 50) and some decent filler pieces. If the White Sox’s price is higher than that, there will be other options on the FA or trade market, as there’s a good amount of FA pitching this year. This is still a guy I hold to the trade deadline if I’m the white Sox. His value isn’t likely to drop too dramatically, it’s already gone down quite a bit so even if he gets hurt it’s not franchise changing. I would play for the upside. Hope he shows more next year. Either a restored fastball or more effectiveness with the reduced velocity, or maybe even some luck that fools a team.2 points
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I’d like to know what their game plan really is, this mess cannot be fixed in this off-season. We have no rightfielder, we have no SS, we have no second baseman, we have no catcher, we have one reliable starter, the bullpen is a wreck, the DH and third basemen can’t stay healthy and are overpaid, the manager is a jerk and a joke and the team right now would have trouble beating a lot of AAA teams but otherwise things are great.2 points
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I don’t know how much is injuries vs attitude vs the White Sox coaches telling him to hit the ball on the ground, but he is literally watching $100 million plus evaporate with his performance the last 2 seasons. If that were me, I’d certainly try to refocus myself and change things up with those results.2 points
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Everyone's personal feelings aside, TA had national commercials and MLB kept running his baseball zen ad (the field of dreams moment) all the time. He was obviously marketable. Also shushing the Yankees crowd is all-time hilarious.2 points
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Purely circumstantial, but I know very few people who are fans of him. Exactly. Think his attitude would get better if they declined his option and then offered him less money?2 points
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Some other piece of crap shortstop, but for much less money? Seriously, who cares? Anderson is no good to the Sox, and the Sox are going to be dreadful no matter who is playing that spot. So might as well save money while sucking. I’m all for it. If you’re not gonna be good, might as well be bad. And if you’re gonna be bad, might as well be historically bad. And I think we may be just that.2 points
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The TA lovers are losing their minds on twitter. Maybe they bring him back to play 2B at a lower cost. Either way as much as anyone wants to claim he was not very good at short stop and his bat took a dip (injury related or not it doesn’t matter). Find someone who is at least good defensively at SS till you make a decision on when and where you put Montgomery when he comes up (hopefully in 2025)2 points
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Please remember that Getz was hired because we are not in a rebuild and anyone else would take a year to evaluate things.2 points
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She said KW orchestrated the Burger deal. Nothing about Anderson in any of the parts I saw.2 points
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Oof. Getting rid of the only marketable player on the team. The franchise gets dumber every day but it's of little surprise at this point.2 points
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Eh, I’m calling BS. That’s covering ones tail afterwards. “This deal is unpopular, it must have been Kenny’s fault!”2 points
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It's probably best both he and the Sox parted ways to be honest with this divorce.... and I hope for his sake this isn't the only divorce he sees.2 points
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He'll certainly be one off the field. He's got quite an all star team he's assembling himself.2 points
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I'm surprised by this to be honest. Thought they would hope he'd rebound and trade him at the deadline.2 points
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I'm not in the know, but if NN doesn't get a shot this year, he never will. we really are that thin at SP.2 points
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I may just take a year off from White Sox baseball. If Delong is part of their plan, then I want nothing to do with this team until the old man is gone.2 points
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The team is not going to be good. They are going into a season with a rotation of Cease, Kopech (for now) Scholtens and Touki. It doesn’t matter who your SS and 2B are at this point2 points
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Clearly this is setting up for Crochet to make the rotation after being stretched out in the minors.2 points
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Which is why you need to trade Cease. Just a complete waste to waste him on a team with no hope.2 points
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It's not just the pitching staff. I think the Sox have got like 10 legit big leaguers on their entire roster, and not all of them are good. (Bummer, Cease, Kopech?, Crochet?, Santos?, TA, Moncada, Vaughn, Benintendi, Eloy.) The other 26 guys are a mix of prospects and roster fillers. Mostly the latter.2 points
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