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Reconvert him to a free agent.

Yes, the season has officially started.

Just please try Tim Elko. How can it be worse? Truly. Even worst case seems better than Andrew Vaughn.

We've all wondered this. Here's my take: The main problems with JR is that he's insular, stubborn, loyal to yes-men, out of touch with how to succeed in MLB today, and penny wise-dollar foolish. For a long time, he's had a standoffish relationship with both the media and the fans. He bristles at criticism and IMO has just shut them out at this point. So, local media and fans raking over the coals over the state of the team doesn't mean much to him. Loyalty over demanding result has long been a criticism of him. That doesn't make him a bad person, but it's no way to run a MLB franchise. This is how people like TLR, Kenny Williams, Rick Hahn, Cooper had jobs way past their expiration dates. Approaches that led to success in 1983, 1990-93, and 2005 are outdated in the 2020s. It's not like he's never spent any money on the team. He did allow the payroll to balloon up to the top 5(?) or 10(?) during this recent failed rebuild. But he doesn't want to invest in things like player development, scouting, or difference-maker elite free agents. Locking up young talent to big extensions before they've proven anything in attempt to avoid handing out huge contracts has blown up in their faces over the last 5 years. He doesn't want to see the value of the franchise sink, but he thinks getting public funding for a new stadium will reverse that. Losing 121 games is embarrassing to him, but only further justifies (in his mind) his argument to the public that the White Sox cannot compete at their current stadium. And finally, owning the Sox is his life. He has clearly said so. For that reason, and for tax purposes, he's not selling while he's still in good health. So, we're stuck in baseball hell until Jerry's time is up. We can only hope that he is indeed lining up a transition plan to have the Ishbia brothers become the next controlling owners of the White Sox after he's gone.

This organization could butter the wrong side of bread

It is 4/19/25 and I am shocked that anyone could be surprised by the start of this season.

There is zero upside. Clevinger sucks. This is an absolutely pathetic organization.

I fully understand what you're saying, but I have a hard time understanding why JR would let things get this bad, money or no money. He has to know the team is regarded as a laughingstock, and that his name is connected to that. The White Sox have had their low times, but this is the worst.

Sox hitters…

It's 4/18/25 and the White Sox are out of the race. What a disgraceful display of major league baseball Our team would not be competitive at the AA level. GM should have been fired last year.

Meidroth, Robert, Smith, and Edgar looked good at least. Kind of all that matters overall.

Sit down you fucking cheating bum.

It seems like every time my phone gives me a White Sox update, Meidroth is mentioned.....or more likely the opponent has scored again

Crochet very angry. Chill out brother. Maybe your cuffed pants is cutting off circulation.

Shane Smith AL Rookie of the Year Crochet is way off today.

At least the Pirates have Skenes ONeil Cruz and Reynolds for now.

Old friend alert

Rather just play Baldwin or Meidroth there every day.

He waited, because he knew

I will probably start to gravitate towards watching other games. As soon as the Sox went down 6-1 last night or whatever it was I turned on the Mets/Cardinals game. Much better viewing experience. I love the game. It continues to improve while the white sox continue to flounder. If the team I love isn't going to love back, see ya. I'll go get my entertainment value elsewhere, where the teams are actually invested in. I'll start watching again when I see strong evidence that things have changed. Translation--that means not being the worst team in the league, or bottom 5. And then things are trending upward.

Please give the starts to Vasil over Schuster or Wilson.

This doesn’t sound good. I guess they try to stretch out either Vasil or Bryce Wilson and bring up Shuster cuz he’s on the 40? Does this open the door for more Clevinger? Feels like this team is gonna get worse before it gets better.

Haven’t seen this posted anywhere else, but FG just slapped a 70 grade on Ramos’ defense at 3rd.

The issue is that he intends to resign him, be he keeps re-signing him. His grammar is on par with his minor league development, unfortunately.

I have not been too critical of AV , mainly out of respect for Ron and a few others here, but it is starting to look like AV has to go even if by DFA. It's an awful suggestion but at some point enough rope has been given to him.

Massive HR for Wolkow. 418 ft 8-3 Kanny

256/952 3 homers/7 RBIs very solid defender But we get Palacios instead lol.

4-16 is pretty bad

Wow where was that

It’s so funny when some of you guys show up to the game thread.

i like quero, let him and chase hit 1-2

Lol schriffen just creamed his pants

Colson up over 170/500 at least. Meidroth 280/680 would take that for the year

a yankees suck chants breaks out when you're tied at home 3-3 against the White Sox. God boston is such a s%*# sports town.

Does it really matter, it's not like we have a high leverage arm unless you're clamoring for Vasil

Vaughn and Vargas gotta go. They aren’t coming out of this.

Vargas lol

Any new thoughts from Mr Middlebrooks??

i go away for a minute and we do an offense

Fire everyone

Middlebrooks "I know it's the White Sox...I know it's a AAA offense." On Crochet winning without A stuff.

Good lord. He was a rule 5 draft pick. Dude is performing HEAD AND SHOULDERS above what is expected from that.

Flexen last year...20+ consecutive starts without a win.

Try bringing a critical sign to the ballpark. You'll have it confiscated faster than if you brought in a weapon. I think it does mean something to him so he shuts it down so he doesn't have to see it. Insular is certainly the right word.

I too am sick and tired of being the doormat for the other teams But until we see JR'S name in the obituaries , we are screwed

I'm seriously trying to figure out why? The upside isn't that great. I laughed at first that he was blackmailing someone in the organization but that's looking actually possible. Just when I thought @Balta1701would be back.

Wasting this much time and resource on Clevinger is absolute insanity to me.

This statement seems so obviously true, but I seriously doubt that Getz would be fired anyway. Any other team in baseball (or any sport) would fire their GM in such a situation, but I don’t think we would.

Getz is a failure. This team was out of the race by the middle of April. This team could not be competitive at the AA level.

This goes deeper than Getz. All of this is happening under the guise of rebuiding. Rebuilding is always a risk. But as time goes on, we should see at least some improvement somewhere. Instead, we see regression and a record setting number of losses. This is simply not a major league team. I don't see hope in the near future. I certainly don't see a string of championships coming down the pike. The credibility of the franchise is being destroyed. Time for the rebuild to end. Time to put real major league players on the team.