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Lol…love the hard flex that completely misses the point. Don’t know how to make this any simpler for you, but Chase Meidroth is second overall in squared up rate behind Luis Arraez. What part of that statement do you disagree with exactly? Next, you highlight that Arraez doesn’t walk a ton because he makes such ridiculous contact. It’s true he makes ridiculous, but the reason he doesn’t walk is because he chases like crazy outside of the zone. Meanwhile, Meidroth was the most disciplined hitter in the minors last year and currently has an 85th percentile chase rate as a rookie. His walk rate as a rookie is nearly 2x that of Arraez’s. What part of that statement do you disagree with? Honestly, I am kind of curious what part of my post has you so butt hurt. Just an oddly aggressive response for no obvious reason in my mind.

this year

Ok Montgomery, you are so very clearly ready for this and I was so very wrong

Meanwhile in the real world hes been traded twice in 45 days and has struggled mightily in AA. That may be understandable given hes 22 and a year removed from being drafted, but if you want to compare him to Mead, Mead was already in MLB at that point.

So many exciting guys to watch….and then there’s Rojas

I mean, if you can't see what these young guys are doing and HOW they are doing it, then I don't know what to tell you.

Just put Sosa at second. Mead at forst

Guess we are finding out that Nightengale very much misses Kenny and Rick and Getz gives him nothing. Also “other teams took lesser deals for their guys” isn’t a very good argument when he has two team options. It’s not the same as a full on rental.

Still a good series.

Us losing Vargas (and them getting back Trout) was a big swing in this one too. Lineup is longer with Miggy at 1B and Sosa and 2B instead of Rojas. Baldwin/Colson/Sosa/Vargas infield should actually be pretty productive if Brooks keeps hitting. Hopefully Mead can get acclimated quickly and be ready to start in Seattle.

One Dog and Mike Cameron as well.

More Colson: One of my all-time fav songs is Just my Imagination, by Temptations. It reminds me of this kid, because I swear the whole team is responding to him, or is it just my imagination.

Colson seems much more likeable than that Crow kid.

I was just thinking about this and bumped a post by @Chicago White Sox from June 26 in the Sosa thread. And I didn’t bump it to call him out. Most of us felt the same way. Crazy how things have changed.

JR has a Greyhound bus highballing it.

Yeah, he could be out all month. Too bad because he was looking good at the plate.

Thinking about this more, but this offensive core is super fascinating to me. We more or less have a compete lineup from day one. Yes, it lacks some ceiling and impact, but that’s totally fine for a team entering year three of a rebuild with no long-term payroll commitments and hopefully a new owner influencing our free agent principles in the near future. When I look at the group, I feel really good about the infield and catcher. We have two guys that I feel can be major league SS’s in Colson & Meidroth. The former has the higher ceiling with elite bad speed that suggests he can be a true impact player one day if he can improve his swing decisions. Meidroth is a divisive player, one lacking loud physical tools but possessing incredible skill and intangibles. I can’t stress enough how unique it is to have a player with both elite bat to ball and plate discipline abilities. People seem to think I’m just some fanboy when it comes to Chase, but go look at Statcast data around the league and find a lot of guys like him. He’s a unicorn and one I think still has considerable room for growth even if power will never be a huge part of his game. Beyond those two, we have a plethora of infield options that can be part of next year’s group. Sosa is quickly becoming an interesting player. He’s flashing a plus hit tool and a swing that’s geared to maximize what is above average raw power for a 2B. The plate discipline is still a major red flag and I do worry his game could unravel at some point without some improvements there, but @Jake has called out that his chase rate has gotten better as the season has progressed. As much as we rip his defense, he seems like he can be average-ish at 2B. He looks like a legit 2 win player at the moment with the ceiling for more if he could actually draw some walks. On top of Sosa, you have two 2B/3B types in Mead & Antonacci who look like they could be big league regulars. I candidly don’t know a ton about the Mead, but his past prospect pedigree (former 55 FV type) is exciting and so is his Statcast profile this year which has flashed plus power, hit, and plate discipline abilities. His game hasn’t come together yet, but he hasn’t had an extended runway yet to make you feel that it can’t. He’s a guy the Sox must find a way to get at-bats to down the strength, even if those come at 1B, DH, etc. As for Antonacci, but I just saw a stat that said he’s the only minor league this year with an over 160 wRC+ and under a 15% K rate. There is likely some BABIP good luck mixed in there, but it’s clear as day he’s got a double plus or better hit tool with excellent plate discipline. As @Timmy U has pointed out, there are some similarities to Meidroth here, but Sam comes with a bigger frame and more physical projection along with being a LH hitter. He could be in the 3B/2B mix as soon as Opening Day next year IMO. Needless to say, there are almost too many options for these three spots, which is a good problem to have. I personally believe keeping Chase as the primary SS and Colson as the primary 3B is the way to go for the timing being (Colson should shift over to SS whenever Chase is on the bench). I believe Colson has the skills to be an elite defensive 3B with time. Chase will never be a stud defensive SS due to his lacking arm, but otherwise I think he has looked the part there and has exceeded my expectations. Most importantly, this alignment allows for 2B to be manned by Sosa, Mead, or Antonacci, which I think is the ideal position for all three of them. I’ll post more on the other positions later today, but I did want to highlight one other point when it comes to the infield. I love our strategy to add high ceiling prep infielders in the past two years in Bonemer & Carlson. Most of the guys mentioned above outside of Colson have capped ceilings but look like they can be average to slightly above average Major leaguers. At some point will we need to add some star power and impact, and it’s this wave of kids along with possibly our 2026 1st rounder (if they go the SS route) that could provide it down the road once our theoretical financial flexibility begins running dry as kids enter arbitration. It’s good long range planing and I think Getz deserves some kudos for his org building in this area.

He might cost us some draft position at this rate. I kind of don’t want him to be this good…lol.

I think Mead was a great buy low candidate

Brooks is a hitter - I think he’s going to have a pretty long career. Didn’t say he’s going to be some great player - but he is going to have a long and productive big league career.

Montgomery HR/FB rate is 23% (that may not include today's bomb). Lol

100% said he was probably a bust…kid has made me eat crow and lots of it almost immediately making that post.

No, that’s asking a lot, if they get to 70 wins it would be damn good and if team continues to improve JR has to spend some money were they can compete for a WC next year.

Rojas the only one that didn't get the message to stop sucking.

I kinda feel sorry for a journeyman, like Trout, who just has no chance against Sean Burke.

How long ago was Colson a bust....6 weeks? Offensively he looks like a beast and also has been playing great defense. I love it.

I love Colson and I love Ryan Fuller and I love you guys.

It also doesn't take into account that each team is in a different situation that has to be factored into making a trade decision.

Even with Meidroth and Vargas out, this is not, at all, a bad lineup. Especially when you compare it to some of the Sunday lineups from earlier in the year. And especially compared to the absolute garbage Sunday lineups Grifol and TLR would put out. I think we'll see a good job from Burke today. I feel good about this game. I'd really like to get it going into Seattle next. We get today and even one in Seattle, it's a GREAT west coast road trip. Keeps the momentum moving forward.

Burke’s last 11 starts: 57.2 IP | 9.36 K/9 | 3.28 BB/9 | 2.86 K/BB | 1.09 HR/9 | 3.75 ERA | 3.74 FIP While there are still some warts underlying those numbers, his performance over the past two months reflects substantial improvement vs. where he was. IMO, he is cementing a spot in the 2026 rotation above pretty much everyone else.

I'm sure the White Sox chartered a private plane with a king size bed and 200 count thread sheets for him to get yo Anaheim

I love a big picture look at roster moves. Very important. Getz wants to build a solid bullpen. Many were particularly worried about the BP in the off-season but Getz put a lot of trust in Katz and Bannister and stockpiling arms. It's gone fairly well on a rebuilding team that had room to cycle through numerous arms . April was rough as I suspected it would be but it seemed each month the pen got better and better. Don't know if stats will back me up on that. But lots of guys went up and down and the more consistent ones stuck. Slowly but quietly the Sox ended up with a decent BP. Not great but borderline good since about the middle of June. Bullpens always cause a lot of consternation and moreso when the offense is bottom of the barrel bad which it was until the slow but steady influx of the positional prospects. As they got more comfortable and the coaches reiterated hunting and turning on fastballs in hitters counts, they settled in after the All Star break.

I would not bring up either Schultz or Smith. I don’t think either is Rule 5 eligible and the Sox will need those spots for McDougal, Pallette, and all the 60 day IL guys.

You wouldn’t find much about him there either. Former Rangers second rounder who had some love on the back of a few top 100s. Sox picked him up on waivers at the end of Spring. Mostly started at Charlotte. He’s been okay. Is nothing special. I’d DFA after the season when the Sox have all those 60 day IL guys to bring back, but Six seem to like him.

I understand the sentiment of wanting Schultz and Hagen in the bigs but I think we really play down the importance of veteran leadership. We complain about older guys who pad their stats, but there are 8 of 26 guys on this team I would call older vets. 1st and 2nd year guys don't have the credibility to set the example, and routine isn't something that coaches "teach".

I think Carlson will lock up the shortstop job… in 2029. Until then, Colson will be supremely valuable as a ss with 25+ HR power. You could do worse. Also, Bonemer will get here before Carlson, but I think you could stick him anywhere but catcher and it would work.

I don't want to extend him, but he does have a bit longer history of doing this in Cleveland, and a little with Milwaukee. Curious to see who does better in free agency, Houser or Civale.

Can we start to talk about Aaron Civale?

Nonsensical. I've seen a couple of these lists and they are entirely meaningless. I compare the Sox to the Cubs and the Cubs are performing 'better' than the Sox on these dumbass listicles, meanwhile Cubs fans are irate that their team didn't do jack and at least we did....something. The "Athletic" aka NYT sports section is a fuckin rag. I think they're trolling White Sox fans for the page views, but it's not even a large fanbase. I think these guys are just dumb and bad at their jobs.

There is upside with 2 of the 3 players and what else were you supposed to do with Hauser?

The White Sox team ERA is better than MLB average, better than the Dodgers and Blue Jays who are both in first place.

Dang it - I was a good Brooks Baldwin play away from seeing my 3rd in person no hitter!

September 9, 2003 - With one move Sox manager Jerry Manuel perhaps cost his team a post season playoff berth and eventually led himself to be fired. In a game the Sox were leading Minnesota 8-2 in the ninth inning, Manuel brought in relief pitcher Jose Paniagua to get some work in. The Sox had a one game lead over the Twins and this was the second of a four-game series at U.S. Cellular Field. Paniagua allowed four runs giving Minnesota momentum even though they’d lose 8-6. The Twins promptly won the final two games, swept the Sox the following week in Minnesota and won the second of three consecutive divisional titles. Paniagua, as he was leaving the field, made an obscene gesture at home plate umpire Mark Carlson and was released by G.M. Kenny Williams the next day. Manuel’s dismissal would come a few weeks later. There has always been debate over the impact of this incident in the divisional race but Twins players have been quoted as saying it was a difference maker.

I knew the game started, and I was busy and had it on in the background, then I checked in like “the Sox are up 1 zip, let’s see if we can hold it”…then the game was over. I thought it was, like, the 4th inning. Welp. Take the win. Nice showing from Civale.

It's because Chris Getz fleeces other GMs so badly in trades.

Those grades are pretty wild. I think the cubs, tigers, Red Sox, brewers, angels and Braves all did worse than the Sox all things considered.

It's Dombrowski. He was pissed at Sox because he thought he had a deal for Crochet at last year's deadline and Sox decided to wait until offseason. He thought he could get Robert for scraps.