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Moncada, who could never hit .300 with an OPS above .870, is at .301 with an OPS of .891 on September 11 with 7 games left

Well thank goodness we can finally agree that Collins is not a major leaguer. 15 at bats in September after 25 earlier in the year. Sure he crushed AAA pitching this year, and he's only 24, at a very difficult position and sure he's put up a .350 OBP in those 15 at bats...but done. Lopez also done...as were Giolitto and Moncado last year. Life is much easier when we can make sweeping conclusions instantly.

Kid is going to hit 30 bombs this year and he's missed alot of time on the IL. 2020 Eloy will be incredible to watch.

If the Sox made the decision that they'd acquire zero position players this offseason, focus solely on pitching, and then spend their entire position player budget on Mookie Betts after next year would anyone be mad? I don't think that happens, but if you want to know a guy I'd give 350+ million to its Mookie Betts.

Yes for sure. I’ll take 1 elite player over “depth” this offseason 10x over

Like when they beat them to clinch the division last year?

Thanx.

Holy shit, showing that massively obese child eating popcorn like a pig eating from a trough is not a good look.

Moustakas after a week off comes back has 3 hits, 2 HR's, (32 and 33), on his 31th Birthday. He would ve scooped that.

Why are you bringing up somebody's personal stuff/views into a baseball thread in regards to what you said about Moncada?

Lopez is a 4th starter at this point

A front office with a clue would have already cut his ass loose to let Collins and possible Yermin get some playing time. What is the benefit to playing Castillo to his contract conclusion? So you don’t look like you are admitting you made a bad signing? We already know it was a crap signing. Stop trying to save face, Rick...

Also it's probably a good idea to get Collins, likely our #2 catcher next year, idk maybe some time behind the plate? Then put Mercedes at DH. No damn reason Skole and Castillo should be getting any ABs.

Because his lazy ass has hurt the pitchers this season, and there’s no reason he’s still back there.

He is one reason ( the other is Robert) we need to concentrate on the pitching in the off season. Imagine his numbers once he starts hitting above .250 taking more walks. If he improves along the lines of Moncada then we are looking at him coming close to duplicating his AAA numbers . Dickerson. Gennett. Moustakas all lefties . all one or 2 year deals all with a chance to be productive and inexpensive. Improves the bench, provides depth for injuries, or non performance and possibly huge upgrade if Gennett can bounce back.

Timmay at SS is LOL.

Someone needs to teach Timmy the quick slide and throw like Rey Ordonez. That was a pathetic effort.

You're describing a 1 WAR player.

I just don’t see Collins being a productive MLB hitter. Seems to have slider-speed bat. His swing at pitches above the belt is ugly

Everybody has to start at the bottom and work their way up. If you think the stories about the minor players are bad, try being the athletic trainer who has to take care of them. Having to work in the winter Mexican leagues just to move up in the profession. There is no where to go but up.

People were expecting him to hit .270+ and he's hit .250. They were expecting more walks, not an OBP hovering around .300. That's where the disappointment comes from.

And has had no clue at the plate as to what to expect, as well as how to pull the ball

Eloy en fuego!!

That was a great AB by Moncada.

Well that about sums it up...

Lopez just served up a distraction. 2-0 KC

Is there a game going on or to we have to wrap ourselves in 9/11 horse shit so Jason and Chuck can virtue signal all night? FFS. SPORTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A DISTRACTION FROM THIS SHIT.

Didn't we answer this question somewhere else in the thread ? Anyway someone answered it and basically it was a non issue at least for public consumption. Puig should not be in consideration. He marches to his own beat , doesn't listen to coaches, runs when he thinks he should run , misses cut off men. Not a good choice.

You said 88 wins- and to bank it.

I can see Puig coming here and putting up the same 1.5-2.5 WAR season he's put up for 5 of the last 7 years. Dude had one year where he was a star and it was 7 years ago. If we're signing 1.5-2.5 RF we're wasting money. Go big or go home. We can fill RF internally for free basically at those WAR values.

Free Mendick

There's been absolutely no diminishment to Abreu's game, if we look at 2019 numbers versus 2015-2018. In 2014, he was on a different level. So, armchair-GMs, why on earth wouldn't you want to keep him here until he demonstrates that there is diminishment in his game? He's a remarkably consistent offensive producer.

JDM will cost a draft pick.

I think it was in some minor league game thread. I can try to find it later today. All I remember is reading a post of his that mentioned Moncada and making a mental note to not bother him at the end of the season

What if is something like Abreu (almost feels like a lock he comes back, but I would prefer he DH'd if we couldn't sign someone else), JDM to DH, a starting pitcher (Cole/Strasburg, but probably someone in next group), Calhoun, and a couple of relievers?

We need to put Greg, Vile and Ron in the Octagon. One man will survive the other two will be exiled to WSI.

Tom Brady had 3 games with zero TD's in his 3rd season and 4 games with 1 TD. He also had 6 games where he threw as many picks as he had TD's. His single worst game that season, he went 14-29 with 0 TD and 1 INT with 134 YDS. That game was following up a game where he threw for 133 YDS. Said another way, in Tom Brady's 3rd season, he threw for less than 140 yards in 2 of 3 games that season (with 1 TD and 2 INTs). In Tom Brady's fourth season, he had a 0 TD and 4 INT opening week performance where he threw for 123 yards. What if people overreacted to Tom Brady and managed him on a day to day and week to week basis? Would he ever have even gotten a chance to become a GOAT. I am not saying that Trubisky is going to be the next Tom Brady and he very well could be the next Blake Bortles, but you got to give him time to prove it out. My gut says he's not much different than Mariotta, but I could be wrong and there are plenty of times where I see Mitch make special throws. Whether he actually has that it factor and the game slows down super crazy, I don't know, but he is who we have and we need to put everything into getting everything we can out of him.

Unsure if it was ever posted or not, but it seems Bryce Bush's missed time/season end was because of bronchitis and fatigue. Fegan mentions it in his article today.

I've never really believed that strength of schedule matters. The more talented team will win more often than not, and there are only a few games (Eagles, Chiefs, Saints, maybe Rams) where you could argue that the Bears aren't the more talented team. A healthy, 8-8 season would be a massive disappointment.

Agreed - Watching it right now. Fantastic.

Benetti thinks he’s Vin Scully, but instead is just really creepy

We can always trade away players when one comes knocking on the door.

The Sox have negative 3.4 bWAR in RF and negative 2.5 bWAR at DH right now. 2 WAR players at either position is a 10 win increase based on this year. That is how bad they have been at those positions.

Other than the creation of Moan4Yoan, the gift that keeps on giving...

fathom - Can we please wait until the offseason before we start predicting every free agent is going to sign with the Cubs? 😜

I sometimes wonder what would happen if you could get a critical mass of posters to sign a pact stipulating to something like the following: 1) The on-field results from 2007-2016 were unacceptable 2) It is fair and appropriate to criticize the ownership and management from that era for those results 3) It is fair and appropriate to be worried that the same regime is now in charge of the rebuild, given their past failures 4) Nonetheless, that regime broke meaningfully with past practice in undertaking a full-fledged rebuild in late 2016 5) The rebuild, while necessarily uncertain given its incompleteness, is showing at least some promising results 6) The full success of the rebuild cannot be judged until 2020 or 2021 when the key prospects have arrived and seen some testing at the big league level 7) It would be disruptive to change course dramatically when that key period is upon us (or substitute that, even if not disruptive, it is a waste of mental energy to pine for the architects of a rebuild to be fired at such a critical juncture), SO... 8) Let's withhold judgment a little while longer--and decide whether our skepticism in this regime was warranted or misplaced--after the next couple of years play out. I think we could absolutely slash the length of most threads. You could just say a magic word like: "PACT" instead of hashing through the above points over and over in different contexts, different combinations, and different sequences. I suppose it would spoil some of the fun, though.

What happened to the title of this thread? So the thread title was changed without my consent (but with my name still attached) How was that done? Why was that done? Was my name put in the title in the third person to hurt my credibility? Antoher attack on my credibility as a poster. Why and how was this done, again without my consent when my name is attached to the thread? I'm not very happy about this.

Lmao! In case you haven't noticed, admins and mods change topic titles all the time and not one of us cares about asking the poster for permission. Thanks for the laugh though, I'll remember this for the next chapter of your long form weekly essay "my dislike of advanced stats and who really understands them!?"

For his rookie season or his career? For his career, then yeah, that would be disappointing, but predicting a .775 OPS from him prior to this season for 2019 would not have been unreasonable at all.

Soto is a very different hitter than Eloy. Saying a player has been disappointing because he wasn't as good as arguably one of the 3 greatest performances by a 20 year old in MLb history is reaching imo.