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Put me on record — this is stupid. Offense-starved team refuses to give a shake to a young cost-controlled player who can hit a little bit. Maybe the skeletons will suddenly fall out of the closet to make this make more sense but to me this is just Getz not liking Sosa's game on an aesthetic level and feeling unwilling to figure out how to use him.

Gotta love Soxtalk. A post about two minor leaguers colliding in the outfield is seen as some dramatic grand big picture indictment of the organization and somehow related to the Detroit Pistons and Charlotte Hornets.

Convincing people he didn’t fail terribly in his previous role

Hello Darkness my old friend.

Does he know there’s no parking lot in the new stadium plans?

Because of a detestable owner who hired an inexperienced guy for GM who hired a rookie manager who doesn’t have clue.

Sox and KC now tied at 5-8, both ahead of Detroit at 4-9. Road record is 2-5 for the season. Sox for the second time this year end a skid at 3. By this time last year, they had already had an 8 game loss streak (they had a 4L and 5L at this point in 2024). Win #5 comes on April 9th this year (April 20th in 2025, April 27th in 2024). The date to beat for #6 is April 24th. Team ERA over the last 7 games is 2.25 (18 total runs allowed). Second shutout in that stretch. Probably should get more than a 4-3 record out of that if they could start hitting some HRs again.

Going to guess losing game 7 of the World Series hurt a little more.

If you won’t allow yourself to get excited about Schultz because of those reasons, I truly don’t understand the point of following the Sox at all right now.

This seems like an absurdly stupid trade that I can't see the vision on from any angle.

Shirley’s team identified Crochet as a future starter and drafted him. Had nothing to do with possibility of being quick moving reliever. The drafting has been pretty solid overall. They’d benefit from more picks. The system is basically all draft picks because they get so little out of international market. In regards to Cholowsky, he’s been basically the same player as last year and nobody has overtaken him. Would be stunning if Sox took anyone else. As of now.

The streak has been broken!! My son and I had a blast. Great game for my son to see with Murakami and Colson both going deep. And he got a ball. Glad I pulled the trigger last minute.

In his eyes, he brought six NBA titles and a World Series Championship to the city of Chicago. Flip it. How much more does Jerry need to give this city? Of course I don't agree with what I just wrote, but it's abundantly clear in his actions the last two decades he has very little passion or even interest in running franchises that have a goal of winning. His goal is profit. As a fan, I don't agree with that at all, I think both are obtainable, but it's harder to accomplish. Which leads to Jerry's other "trait" He's incredibly lazy. This whole idea of Jerry being ultra loyal is horseshit. Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Phil Jackson, Frank Thomas...all have been basically shunned by their former Chicago employer. He didn't hire Chris Getz because he's loyal, he hired him because he didn't want to go through an actual search committee, learn to work with someone new...they already had a guy in the payroll system, so just give the job to him. He shows a complete lack of interest in evolving with the times, citing David Eckstein as one of his favorite players as late as 2024, along with bringing up Branch Rickey in his press conference in hiring Getz. Branch Rickey has been dead for over 60 years. He is a stain on this city, and when he finally goes, it will be the most significant and impactful thing to happen to this franchise since 2005.

Spanky is back.

It's refusing to eat the contract.

Started reading through this thread and rolled my eyes so many times. Caufield posting nonsense and ownership blaming.

This is laughable. Sox fans pissed because the team sucks. More like Cubs fans? You're just like Cubs fans. Results don't matter to you. 3 100 loss seasons in a row when we were promised being in a multiple championship window. How dare White Sox fans be upset.

Getz's biggest accomplishment was convincing JR he was the person for the job.

I wonder when he will head down to Springfield and try to work on the state to buy him some pitchers.

Anyone notice that certain people only come to game threads the Sox are losing to rub salt in the wounds and tell us how everyone sucks ?

I don't even think prospect fatigue fully covers it. I think some people (within Sox fandom specifically) are trying to talk themselves into it being a tougher choice so that they can reserve the right to be mad later about the team making the "wrong" one. Roch being an uncontroversial clear consensus 1OA is boring to them, because it simply doesn't provide enough avenues to blame Getz/Shirley/the org for the pick in the future.

He's got to get here soon to assure we get compensation for him winning ROY.

Right now the problem with Getz as GM is the problem with Getz as head of player development: he can't SCOUT. He has absolutely zero eye for talent. At least Hahn preferred tools, even if a guy had zero actually ability. Getz likes 1 tool players that can't play as a bonus. There's zero upside to most these guys, relievers, OF and SP. The only spots filled by young talent are guys you really can't miss on giving what we traded.

A lot of people have already touched on many of the annoying things about this guy. When the score is 9-0 and the Sox hit a solo home run to finally get on the board me as a fan is like "Geez, finally they did something" where Schriffen is like over the top in your face beat my chest about it. There are very few things that deserve celebration when getting your ass kicked.

He looks like Brett Lawrie I don't like it.

I am thinking of suing the Sox for unnecessary and wanton infliction of pain.

Maybe we can get Kenny out of retirement to deliver the message?

I'm guessing this will end any chance of Frank appearing on the pre and post game shows again.

Hitting the ball into the river would be nice.

They absolutely do not have a lot of good players

Top 100 on the Sox prospects

I’ll give Sosa this. He was good at going back on a pop up that we’ve seen baffle some 2Bs. And he could hit a little. Fielding in general? Not as bad as you guys are making it sound.

It is absolutely absurd that you can see what has happened in Phoenix with his families investment in the Suns, including a WILD spending spree, and already be attempting to speak in absolute certainty about something like this, especially since the whisper was that the Murakami signing was because of Ishbia's checkbook. This whole argument is patently absurd when you look at the current 45 year long owner of the White Sox and realize that he LITERALLY used OPM to purchase the White Sox, has never been a majority owner of the White Sox, and it's never been HIS cash that did anything for this team in anything but a minority sense of the word. Jerry's wealth was built by pooling other people's money into real estate investments, including the CHICAGO WHITE SOX! Jerry is the definition of private equity. He came closer than any owner in the history of Chicago came to moving this franchise out of Chicago, and has literally stomped this original AL franchise into the lowest earning franchise IN ALL OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL. Ishbia doesn't have to be better than every other owner, he just has to be better than Jerry to seriously improve the status of this once proud franchise. Literally every nutjob fear tactic you keep using to try to scare people about Ishbia, HAS ALREADY HAPPENED! If you want the team to succeed, you should recognize this. It's like Roy Kohn is your ghostwriter using the old "accuse everyone else of whatever it is you are doing" tactic.

Drinking seems to be the best way to tolerate this team.

But regardless of what you think the chances are of it happening, is it a waste to use Taylor in a game that another pitcher subsequently loses? What if using Taylor as an opener reduces the chances of your starter getting bombed? And what if that in turn reduces strain on the remaining pen arms in a way that improves their performance? A scoreless first inning in a game is worth ~5% win probability for the home team. A scoreless 7th with a one run lead is worth ~9%. So sure, the latter leverage inning is "better" in a vacuum... But the first situation is guaranteed and the second is not. The first also comes against a known set of batters, while the second does not. The impact of the extra WPA from the later leverage situation becomes more marginal the less reliably you are able to get to it. So how likely are the Sox to be in late innings with a lead, and does opening with Taylor improve those odds? How much more valuable is going from 69% to 78% win probability once in a series compared to going from 50% to 55% twice in a series? I think those are interesting questions to consider for this particular roster at this particular time, so I kind of dig the experiment. I already gave most of my thoughts on this in the other thread, but think it's at least feasible that Taylor as opener both 1. decreases the odds of your starter getting lit up and 2. simplifies later bullpen deployment, both in ways that are potentially more impactful to winning than waiting for the team to already be in a late lead situation to begin with. Also, if they want to increase his workload, he'll be pitching some "waste" innings either way. This isn't exactly a team with 70+ save opportunities up for grabs right now. Having him open a game certainly seems like less of a "waste" than him coming in down 4 because "he just needs work" while team is in a skid.

I have to imagine when Ishbia takes over he's going to clean house with people like Boyer.

I'm not an Acuna fan but I'm surprised people are like "OMG we could have gotten Vientos!". Guy is 26 with one solid season under his belt two years ago and is arbitration eligible next season. He'd be swapping CF Robert for 3B/1B Robert. At least Acuna is younger and can maybe possibly play CF.

This makes the Peyton Pallette decision all the more perplexing.

Nationals thought it was the actual drink.

You big dummy

As a big sport fan you see a lot of really amazing talent but you very rarely see excellence. In my life on teams I root for it's been probably like MJ, Megatron and Barry, Derrick for a short time, and then like Sale and Garrett and MB and Frank. I really appreciate Sale and Garrett, even if ultimately the franchise wasn't able to do anything to capitalize on their talents. Same with my poor Lions superstars. If anything it might amplify their excellence to have come out of such horrific environments.

Alright, lets go back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back and it will be tied!

At least with the day off tomorrow, these relievers should be rested enough to get lit up again.

God I am so happy baseball is back

Naive is thinking your feelings are more important than the lives of others.