Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: This is baseball. A 100 win team probably has a better chance of losing to the Diamondbacks in a 5 game series than a bottom team in the NBA does of winning against a 1 seed (or a 16-1 upset in the NCAA tourney). Is it baseball? Goddamn I didn't know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: Agree with Jon here. The MLBPA probably just presented its offer and told MLB to think it over, talk to the owners, and get back to them. Nothing wrong with that. I'm actually pretty encouraged with the way things are going. Yes, it's moving slowly, but neither side is immediately running to a microphone to disparage the other side in the media, or releasing snarky press releases. The discouraging part is that both sides have made offers that are incremental at best, with almost no progress on the gap between them. At this rate, they might find a median sometime in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: In a 7 game series, I agree. In a 3 game series legitimately anything can happen. Its baseball. 95-100 win teams are going to lose to slightly above .500 teams regularly in the 2 vs. 7 seed three game series under this format. Its a stupid way to go out after grinding for 162. Win your division or go home. 1 WC was enough. 2 was dumb but acceptable. Anything further is just a money grab. But, such is life. I get it, I love the chaos and always have. People got upset about the first wildcard and we got through it. They said it would water down the field and unworthy teams would win the World Series. Bring on the chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I get it, I love the chaos and always have. People got upset about the first wildcard and we got through it. They said it would water down the field and unworthy teams would win the World Series. Bring on the chaos Fair enough my friend. Its why both vanilla and chocolate exist! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 They should start small and first decide what pizza to order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kyyle23 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, pcq said: They should start small and first decide what pizza to order. Rumor is Cohen likes anchovies and this has ground negotiations to a halt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, pcq said: They should start small and first decide what pizza to order. That would at least lengthen the time for the meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, poppysox said: That would at least lengthen the time for the meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Expanded playoffs is just plain dumb and demeans the regular season. But, at this point, what difference does it make? We have no idea of when the players will be back on the field. Right now, no one is watching out for the best interests of the game. So, we can end the debate now. No one cares what we think anyway, and they will whatever they want include hold up the season until who knows when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 We will be lucky to play 60 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: We will be lucky to play 60 games. If that happens several owners will be in deep trouble and many players will have seen their careers come to an end. That's what happens when you kill the golden goose. Best for all concerned to stop posturing and get a deal done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, poppysox said: If that happens several owners will be in deep trouble and many players will have seen their careers come to an end. That's what happens when you kill the golden goose. Best for all concerned to stop posturing and get a deal done. There's no reason for optimism. The owners are probably thinking this is there chance to break the union once and for all. It's a risk they don't mind taking. Edited February 17, 2022 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This is how labor negotiations go. When enough owners or enough players let their negotiators know they want this thing settled sooner rather than later...a deal happens. I am rather optimistic that the end is in sight. The end of the month (February 2022) would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Chitownsportsfan calls 60 games, that means deal is done within a few weeks. Book it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: There's no reason for optimism. The owners are probably thinking this is there chance to break the union once and for all. It's a risk they don't mind taking. If that is the case then I think this proposal by the union is a mistake. This is the first point where I have to say “the union is being intransigent.” They have plenty of room to negotiate downwards on core matters and used none of it. Give the owners a couple million on the tax line from their last proposal, cut the arb pool from $100 million to $95 million along with the moves they made on Super-2 today, change their proposed number for revenue sharing by a million dollars, and see if the owners make any moves in reply. If the owners aren’t actually interested in negotiating, they wont move at all in reply. If the players inch down and the owners inch up, then eventually they will find a deal. Frankly I’m not sure what today accomplished unless the players just needed to have a tantrum day. It made no real progress and gave the owners no reason to reply. This moves things closer to a long stalemate and closer to external mediation and stuff like that, and I’m not sure who that benefits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Chitownsportsfan calls 60 games, that means deal is done within a few weeks. Book it I'm not sure who is worse with predictions. Him or Parkman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Picking your opponent would be fricken awesome. They should do it like a UFC weigh-in. One representative from each team is there. Trash talking. Love it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Chitownsportsfan calls 60 games, that means deal is done within a few weeks. Book it I need Parkman confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Heads22 said: I knew the moment I actually got fed up the clouds would part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greg775 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Baseball just makes the rules as they go along. Sad that they don't even have a postseason plan for this season yet. Manfred is a bad commish and baseball doesn't seem to care that its fans are old and younguns don't like baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 7 hours ago, greg775 said: Baseball just makes the rules as they go along. Sad that they don't even have a postseason plan for this season yet. Manfred is a bad commish and baseball doesn't seem to care that its fans are old and younguns don't like baseball. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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