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It’s truly amazing how bad of a hire Tony was

Cry more Jose, you b****. Good riddance.

I'm one of the biggest Jose supporters ever, but dude, that was your locker room. Shut the f*** up. It wasn't Tony's locker room, it wasn't TA's or Liam's. It was Jose Abreu, everyone tied the Latin pipeline of talent to him and him taking them to the next level. Unfortunately Jose wasn't the leader we thought he was.

Even for us that expected it to be awful, it was catastrophic. Exponentially worse than any of us even imagined.

lmao I remember him doing bat drops for 350 foot fly balls.

If Yaz does something positive but it's not in a televised game, did it really happen? Soxtalk was in mid-season form watching him make weak contact in the few televised AB's we've seen for him.

Shouldn't Abreu as one of the "leaders" (as many of you call him), take responsibility for the animosity and "weren't a family" in the clubhouse? Isn't that kind of the "leaders" job?

"Sometimes", Abreu said,"when you're at a place where maybe you're not being respected to the point where you think you should be, you just have to go somewhere else." Hahn's bullshit lowball offer to one of the franchise's best players didn't sit well. Shocking

It’s time to ride or die with the core guys, Vaughn included. Let’s at least find out how good these guys are by them staying on the field. If they fail, at least we found out by seeing them play. Vaughn, Moncada, Anderson, Robert, Eloy, Benintendi…they all play 150+ if they’re on the active roster.

Knowing that the top line is Vaughn, all you've shown me is that one guy playing out of position almost out produced two guys who were getting more favorable matchups. So you can spend one roster spot on Vaughn playing his actual position, or two on Sheets / Burger.

If Yas goes back to most of his career form - the Sox chances of being a playoff team skyrocket (in my mind).

I think Kelly will have a nice bounce back year.

Amazing what happens when you can workout to get ready for the season and not just doing rehab on your knee. Especially for a catcher.

Grandal HR !!! Batting RH.

I don't understand this take at all. It wasn't in his contract to overcome any amount of dysfunction that arose. Having unrealistic expectations about what Abreu was capable of as a leader is nobody's fault but those creating those expectations.

Vaughn...so washed up. ?

Think he read yesterday's game thread?

Then why the f*** was Tony hired? To sleep?

Here's the thing. Winning cures a lot of clubhouse and chemistry issues. Machado and Tatis were at each others' throats quite publicly two years ago when their season was imploding. It happens in every clubhouse where a massive preseason playoff favorite disappoints...players tend to turn on each other. Then the fact that he was pushed out the door pretty unceremoniously must have hurt after almost a full decade with the team. Fans understand the logic behind cutting him loose...a lot more than we disagreed about no QO for Carlos Rodon. No TLR or hitting coach excuses this year. It's on the players to perform. Unfortunately, they've already taken a bit of a gut punch losing Hendriks.

But don't let facts get in the way of delusional paranoia...

He had almost equal splits last year and a 121 wRC+ against RHP before fatigue set in September.

You've probably heard or seen some of the trailers for this over the past year or so. Now the release dates have been announced for the three part documentary "Last Comiskey" profiling the "Doin' the Little Things" team that won 94 games shocking the baseball world and the final year of Comiskey Park in 1990. Parts will be released on You Tube starting on March 2, with the other parts to follow on March 9 and 16. Many of the players and front office agreed to be interviewed for the documentary as well as fans, media members and Nancy Faust (who provided the music!) Matt Flesch and his people worked for over two years on this which started as a project during COVID isolation. I provided a lot of the highlight video from out of my library. Fans also provided still photos and home movies. Looking forward to watching this...from what little I've seen Matt and his people did a very professional job.

This is actually good news to me - because at least we have a new sheriff in town in terms of managing the clubhouse. So if it really was as bad as some of us imagined - that means the benefits of potential upside with change are that much better

Ha too deep for me. Everybody do what you're paid to do and live up to your potential. Players can't be soft and worry about feelings. Your enemy is your opponent not your team mate. Go to war, become a band of brothers with destroying the opposition mind set. The fans are not your enemy nor are broadcasters. Do not pay attention to anything but your opponent. Social media is your enemy. You play hard and win and everyone will love you.

Hanser Alberto is looking sharp in the field and hitting. Romy playing all over the field including CF today. Andrus hitting well, too. At least early on 2nd base is looking great.

bust

Sub 1 ERA in June last year, too. He wasn't as productive in the 2nd half largely due to a brutal September. I didn't like signing at all when it happened, but realistically he's fine as a 2nd or 3rd tier reliever.

You can tell he knew off the bat it was gone. I can't recall that happening too many times if at all last season.

I'd love to bring in a Giles, Hand, Britton, someone with some experience, specifically late in games.

Oh for sure. Almost every game with him trying to close was an adventure last year.

Vaughn ?!

Dylan Cease is so damn likable.

Do you think that Reinsdorf ever has a moment of clarity in which he does realize "darn, that really was an awful hire"?

No comment is an acceptable answer, Jose. Just saying. I am sure it is nice to be an Astros fan and player but they are a scumbag organization imo. I choose to remember how Jose was in the community here with his Abreu's Amigos but as he is part of the Astros I really cannot root for him any longer.

It wasn't his job, though. Any time a player provides leadership, it should be considered a bonus rather than something they are supposed to do.

There it is, the work around.

Shades of Forest Gump

Calijah Kancey, DT from Pitt, ran the fastest ever 40 time for a DT. He beat out Aaron Donald, also from Pitt. Dudes gonna be a stud.

I just heard about this tonight and have put together a story for another site that the write for: Sadly, another member of those terrific White Sox teams of the mid-1960’s has passed away as outfielder Dave Nicholson died Saturday, February 25th at the age of 84. Nicholson came to the White Sox in that huge deal with the Orioles on January 14, 1963. The Sox got Nicholson, Hoyt Wilhelm, Ron Hansen and Pete Ward for Luis Aparicio and Al Smith. The deal completely transformed a club that was getting older and more removed from its “Go-Go” days of the 1950’s. Nicholson had incredible raw power and strength but always had trouble harnessing it. At a time when players simply didn’t strike out that often “Big Nick” was prone to doing so. He struck out 175 times in 1963 to lead the league and followed that up by striking out 126 more times in 1964. But when he connected the baseball went a very long way. That 63’ season Dave slugged 22 home runs, walked 63 times and drove in 70 RBI’s for a White Sox team that won 94 games. He also blasted what may have been the longest home run ever hit in Major League Baseball history. On May 6 in the first game of a double header in the fifth inning, versus the A’s, Nicholson blasted a shot off future Sox pitcher Moe Drabowsky that went over the roof and was found across the street in Armour Square. Some Sox fans claimed they heard the ball hit the top of the roof but White Sox officials said when they found the ball it had no signs of tar on it nor was it scuffed. Long time Chicago baseball reporter Jerome Holtzman was at the game and claimed he saw the ball bounce back up after hitting the roof and then go back out of sight. Nicholson’s shot went over the roof around the 375-foot sign in left center field. It was found 135 feet from the base of the wall. Plus, you have to add in the elevation needed to get the ball over the roof, approximately 70 feet. Hitting a ball on to the roof or over it required a ground-to-ground distance of at least 474 feet. Unofficial estimates place the drive as traveling 573 feet eclipsing Mickey Mantle’s shot at Griffith Stadium in Washington in 1956. That shot went an unofficial 565 feet. For the night Dave would hammer three home runs and drive in five RBI’s in the twin bill as the Sox swept both games, 6-4 and 11-4. So how strong was he? Teammate Jim Landis confirmed a story I had heard that after a particularly frustrating game for Dave, he went into the showers and twisted the knobs for the hot and cold faucets so tight that no other player could get them loose to clean up after the game. The Sox had to call in plumbers to repair things. Dave was involved in another odd episode in that same 1963 season in (where else?) Baltimore. On May 19, 13 days after his titanic home run, Sox starter Ray Herbert’s consecutive scoreless inning streak ended controversially in Memorial Stadium. Herbert, a 20-game winner in 1962 and who passed away this past December, had thrown 38 straight scoreless innings when he faced the Orioles Johnny Orsino in the third inning. Orsino then hit what appeared to be a home run to left field...or did he? Both manager Al Lopez and Nicholson argued that the ball Orsino hit passed between the top of the wall and an iron railing mounted on top of it with support posts to help keep fans from falling over on to the field of play. By going through the gap, it should have been ruled a ground rule double. They lost the argument; Herbert lost his scoreless streak but the Sox won the game 4-3 in 10 innings to get a double header split. In 1964 Nicholson started to see his playing time reduced and he only hit 13 home runs with 52 walks and 39 RBI’s. In 1965 his playing time was cut even more only seeing action in 54 games with two home runs and 12 runs driven in. He was traded that off season to Houston. Landis summed up Nicholson perfectly when I asked him about his former teammate. "Dave fought it too hard. He was a young kid who had high expectations and he just couldn’t handle it. He had tremendous power. I was in awe when he hit that one over the roof.” The White Sox from 1963 through 1965 won a total of 287 games and Nicholson despite his limitations played a part in that success.

RIP Dave Nicholson.

It wouldn't be spring training without outlandish absurd desperate hot takes. Mid season form already. Bravo.

You’re crazy.

You're crazy.

Dread it, run from it. Leury Garcia arrives all the same.

Lineup is giving big "battle for a benchspot" vibes.

Just a reminder, tonight a *PM Chicago time, part I of the documentary is available on You Tube. Part II will be on March 9 and Part III on March 16. Enjoy!

March 1, 2015 - Saturnino Orestes Armas Minoso Arrieta aka “The Cuban Comet” aka “Mr. White Sox” best known as “Minnie”, died in Chicago, of a torn pulmonary artery. Depending on whether you believe “Minnie” or the official records, he was either 92 or 89 years old. Minoso was a six-time All-Star with the White Sox and two-time Gold Glove winner while in Chicago, and also a Negro League World Series winner with the 1947 New York Cubans. In the majors, he started for Cleveland but is best associated with the “Go-Go” White Sox, of which he was the heartbeat. He was a true five-tool player, and was revered by Cubans as their “Jackie Robinson” for the groundbreaking role in integrating the Major Leagues for Latin players. Players such as Roberto Clemente, Tony Perez and future Sox coach Orlando Cepeda sung his praises. In retirement, Minoso remained a beloved member of the White Sox family and worked tirelessly in White Sox P.R. and with charities for the final four decades of his life. Though the honor came too late for him to appreciate it, in 2021 he was voted by Veterans’ Committee into the Baseball Hall of Fame, after nearly two dozen previous tries.

Paul Sullivan of the Tribune has a column on this documentary, speaking with the guy who put it together and providing a link to the "teaser": https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-comiskey-park-documentary-20230226-4tngjenrjnarpfgqg5apgltysy-story.html

Had the chance to speak with the driving force behind the documentary, put together a little story on how he put this together: https://www.southsidesox.com/2023/2/22/23609890/1990-white-sox-last-comiskey-documentary-is-on-its-way

My quickie memories. ... -- Was in a watermelon eating contest as a kid on the field outside the Sox dugout in conjunction with 4th of July twinbill. Activities took place in between games. I remember Ken Brett saying "don't choke on the seeds." -- Got to walk around the old park with friends with a banner on banner day. Again between games of a DH. -- My last game in the park was against Cleveland late in that final season. It was rainy and ugly out and we stayed til the 7th and it was fitting the first game I ever left early was my last. Patted one of those pillars, took a last look at the field and me and brother left satisfied emotionally. -- Saw some roof shots in person; will never forget the sound of bat on ball in that gem of an old park. Saw Eric Soderholm break up a no hitter in a 0-0 game and the full park going crazy. Other memories for sure. Like Fred Lynn whacking a home run knocking out Hammaker in the all star game. And Dick Allen hitting a moon shot homer to rc. And Sammy Sosa as a Sox throwing out a guy at third from RF with us having seats right there at third. Neat to see the rocket throw and tag vs. a Yankee. And a Tom Seaver gem when he was old. Went six or seven strong innings and fans went wild for him. Love old Comiskey.