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Only the Sox can take two college guys with top 5 picks that have no actual plus skills

So white sox to have our biggest trade chip s%*# the bed just before the deadline

Whether they are 26th or 29th, it’s still a s%*# farm.

I'll stick with Baseball America thanks.

You know it's a bunk list when they have Jacob Gonzalez at two and Schultz still at four.

I don’t know if I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this indicates Gavin might not be a good defensive outfielder. Has Rick seen this?

Giolito va Carrasco

Even the Sox homerun cape and hat bother me

I’ve seen this team enough the last two years to know there was no momentum

I hate this fucking team

Unless they trade Cease, I think people are going to be very disappointed by the players they get in return

Mets suck almost as bad as us

I can see why you like to read bleacher report.

It's the INJURED LIST old man.

Still....we probably aren't too far beyond #29 even if they are off on the ranking. It's a joke either way in terms of prospect development.

I will be at game today and Thursday. Just want to see good baseball

An updated farm system ranking from July 14 from Bleacher Report. I realize there are many baseball sites that put out rankings and of course it's very subjective. However this at least puts into some perspective the state of the White Sox future talent or lack of. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10082392-updated-mlb-farm-system-rankings-after-2023-mlb-draft The Sox at #29 Updated 2023 Farm System Rankings 30. Houston Astros (Previous: 29) 29. Chicago White Sox (Previous: 26) 28. Los Angeles Angels (Previous: 19) 27. Minnesota Twins (Previous: 11) 26. Kansas City Royals (Previous: 27) 25. Toronto Blue Jays (Previous: 28) 24. Atlanta Braves (Previous: 30) 23. Miami Marlins (Previous: 25) 22. Philadelphia Phillies (Previous: 23) 21. Oakland Athletics (Previous: 22) 20. Arizona Diamondbacks (Previous: 16) 19. New York Yankees (Previous: 24) 18. Milwaukee Brewers (Previous: 20) 17. San Francisco Giants (Previous: 17) 16. Boston Red Sox (Previous: 21) 15. Cleveland Guardians (Previous: 3) 14. Detroit Tigers (Previous: 12) 13. Colorado Rockies (Previous: 14) 12. New York Mets (Previous: 13) 11. San Diego Padres (Previous: 18) 10. Seattle Mariners (Previous: 15) 9. Texas Rangers (Previous: 10) 8. Tampa Bay Rays (Previous: 7) 7. St. Louis Cardinals (Previous: 6) 6. Washington Nationals (Previous: 8) 5. Chicago Cubs (Previous: 9) 4. Pittsburgh Pirates (Previous: 5) 3. Cincinnati Reds (Previous: 4) 2. Los Angeles Dodgers (Previous: 2) 1. Baltimore Orioles (Previous: 1)

Is this what this team has brought us to? Yeah, we didn't quit... Is this little league? An L is an L.

The Sox didn’t give up. Almost pulled it out

I fully expect 2-3 starting pitchers and 3 relievers traded. The pitching is going to be really bad.

Lucas' first cost the Sox tonight, but it was nice to see them battle back. They were playing corpse ball between July 2021 - ASB 2023.

I'm not going to get my hopes up but a comeback win here would be the biggest win of the season, and huge psychologically for everyone.

Take notice, Burger scoring easily from 2B on that line single to RF with less than 2 outs. If you're not a Burger fan, That's a shame.

Burger a few feet away from a monster game

Nice job by Shaw.

I don't know if the all star break helped him clear his head or he's just getting healthier but it's nice to see.

Tim reached all three times tonight, 6 for 14 to start the second half. Nice to see.

Timmy looks really good tonight

His lack of power this year is so disheartening

Latest Mets announcer jab: "these guys swing at everything, doesn't hurt to bounce one in there and see if they'll stake a stab at it" Follow-up, "highest swing rate and highest chase rate in major league baseball" WERE #1!

Tim Anderson with an RBI? No fuckin way!

https://twitter.com/MLBBarrelAlert/status/1681449156626329603?t=Bv5jEdrbCwhlNIoDFPUXSA&s=19

Hopefully Lucas will have his command after the long break. Hope Kopech can regain command on Thursday.

Doesn't everyone need someone yelling at them to do their jobs? Could you image professionals in any other business doing their jobs without a coworker to hold them accountable.

So this is what we've come to... arguing about which source best supports the conclusion that we suck.

You're absolutely right and this will never change while Rick Hahn is the GM and probably even until Reinsdorf is gone.

This is one of the biggest failings of this organisation, many of the prospects drafted or traded for in the last few years have simply failed to live up to their billing. In very few of those cases were the original drafts or trades massively criticised but the Sox have ruined them in one way or another. Just look at the 'development' of Crochet and Kopech, neither of whom look like ever reaching anywhere near the higher end of their potential.

Montgomery and Schultz are great prospects but they are not why the Sox are 29th or 26th by Baseball America. You have to include all levels. Schultz is great but only at low A Kannapolis. Montgomery is also great but only at high A Winston Salem. Where the Sox are bad compared to the strong farm systems, is how weak the Sox are with the AA Barons and AAA Knights.

And what we are saying is we care about baseball America putting the Sox 26th because they get live looks on players and get good information, and don’t care about bleacher report even if it ranked Sox #1 because it is written for people who google “updated farm system rankings”

Hard to watch a guy who’s never on the field……

I think it depends if you are actually trying to understand whats going on with the farm or just enjoying some disaster porn. The sox farm will struggle with depth due to how they operate and their market restrictions, but there is also some high level players that are more interesting than are typically found in a sox farm.

Two s%*#, cursed franchises. Should be a real blast.

If Rick Hahn watched Seinfeld, he and the White Sox would have the answers to become World Series Champions.

I’ll give Sheets some credit for doing a decent job lately in right field but Colas should be in right field every game for the rest of the year, he had 2 hits Saturday night with some nice plays in the field but Sunday he’s on the bench with Eloy taking his place who then gets hurt and replaced by Sheets, I don’t get it except that Grifol is probably an idiot.

The team has done next to nothing since the division title of '08. Then they staked their reputation on a rebuild that has failed. A drop in attendance is far from surprising and actually I don't think it's been that bad. In addition, attendance has been an issue for a long time, and JR has only worsened things. There has been times when it looked like the franchise was turning a corner and on its way to developing a deeper fan base. Then they went back to losing or alienate fans in other ways. This FO gets real arrogant when they have success. They don't seem to understand, that in sports, you can win big one day and get your ass kicked the next. There is simply no tradition with the Sox.

Eloy ranks 29th this year among DHs in fWAR, Jake Burger 16th. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=dh&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=

Adults are accountable for themselves. Period. Management is responsible to identify and address. Teammates may occasionally say something, but it’s not their responsibility. The hotheads self proclaimed leaders on this club, Keuchel and Lynn, have been the players with the least accountability during their time here. The Sox need a FO that brings in many good players, not a “clubhouse leader” to save them.

It's almost as if hes like a 1B or something.

Uh-oh, it’s time for me to go on my (brief compared to other ones) anti-war rant. In 2019 Alex Colome, I admit often scaring us to death, had 30 saves in 33 save opportunities. If I remember an earlier anti-war rant correctly, clearly better than anyone else in MLB that year with more than a dozen or so saves. His WAR from that year is 0.9. How stupid is that? Can anyone argue that he was worth less than one win to the Sox that year. That same year, Abreu hit 33 homers with 123 RBIs. His WAR that year was 2.5; the exact same as Yolmer Sanchez’s 2.5 WAR in 2018 when he hit .242 with 8 homers. WAR can be and too often is a pretty stupid, can’t-see-the-forest-for-the trees statistic. So to my point, Andrew Benintendi, in the last week alone, has been more valuable to the Sox than just one win so far this year.