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If the return for Crochet was reduced for taking the Benny contract, Chris Getz should be fired for making that theoretical deal.

You can get a haul back for Garett now, probably a top 30 guy, a top 70 guy and then a top 150 guy and maybe if Getz plays it right he gets a bidding war going and you get two more decent lotto ticket type 17 year position players. Pull the trigger. I've argued for extending but this is as good as it gets for a pitcher. He'll never again be this healthy and valuable.

I’ve endured a lot of bullshit and stupidity in my time as a Sox fan, but if Getz forces Benitendi into a Robert or Crochet that might just kill my remaining fandom. Would be the absolutely dumbest thing ever as we are a long ways away from money being hindrance from competing.

On the same rehab assignment in Arizona??

Eloy is not going to be easy to replace, especially on a team that doesn't have too many guys that can hit.

lol…this s%*# is absolutely hilarious. Dump Benintendi’s $55M contract so Getz can go out and sign the next Benintendi. What a fucking awesome plan!

Per ESPN's Cy Young rankings, Crochet (AL #2) would be the Dodgers #1 and Fedde (AL #5) the Dodgers #2. Glasnow, (NL #4) would be pushed back to Dodgers #3. Showcase, boys. Showcase.

Will be at the game. Can't say no to free Sox tix. First time seeing Ohtani. Hope Crochet makes him look silly.

I don’t think you’re making the point you think you are.

I feel bad for him at this point. Bye Mom

“And the Sox no shutout streak is… OVA.”

Look at the bright side..if the Sox can play .500 the rest of the season, they will only lose 100.

Call your friends, the no shut out streak may be coming to an end

It was $4 million. If it was anyone else, it wouldn't have mattered, but no one was touching Clevinger, just like they didn't want him the entire winter.

We replace Eloy half of every season anyway, so it isn't like we haven't had practice for it

who could have possibly seen this unfolding this way

“and no one cared to listen.” ?

A 3 pitch strikeout from Eloy with RISP. How will we ever replace such an absolute STUD?!?

We literally have to replace Eloy every season.

“Money to spend” doesn’t translate to the White Sox actually spending money. Anyone worth $ won’t sign here. Anyone worth $ isn’t even considered by management. We get sloppy 7th’s and pay them with opportunities to play their way out of town at the deadline. “Money to spend” makes me chuckle. I’ve hoped, I’ve been burned, I've learned. It ain’t happening. And if the “money is spent” it’s on the Benintendi’s of the baseball world so it’s more like they have money to “lose” not “spend.”

I mean Getz is the GM, but that would 100% be Jerry's poodle being dogwalked if he did it. Benny is a sunk cost, don't multiply the losses by forcing him into a deal.

2019 wasn’t Shirley’s and 2020 was only 5 rounds and they found Crochet, which that pick alone makes it a win.

We are the dumbest franchise in baseball, and we manage to reprove it on a daily basis.

The way they handled Robert with his wrist injury was almost criminal. He was up there swinging the bat one handed.

I feel like your Cleveland example makes the opposite point, or at least arrives at the same point from another angle - Cleveland is successful because they can develop random jamokes into real ballplayers and we can't. We depend on high-end pedigree, basically hitters who can succeed DESPITE our efforts to develop them. Seeing Cleveland's success without a whole bunch of stars makes what the Sox have done even MORE disheartening and bleak looking forward.

The silly fat ass has got his money. He doesn't care.

Mean kid from Toy Story ass looking Will Smith

Gilbert and Clifford

Yeah the pirates just couldnt get a robert deal done.

I'm sorry to keep bringing it up but just bring back the f*@&ing goose.

Unfortunately, idiot blogger trade proposals are probably all that will be bouncing around out there at least until after the draft.

No one is more thankful for that short season than Eloy haha (although, he still got hurt at the end).

And that's kind of the key. It all has to work together. I'm probably wrong on this, I get that...but I really believe if Andrew Vaughn got drafted by, say the Brewers, he's a much better hitter in the Majors than he is today. Development happens in both the minor and major league levels. And while the drafts have seemingly been better under Mike Shirley (jury still very much out on that) it doesn't mean it's going to translate at the ML Level. I need to see that first, on a regular basis, before I believe the Sox have turned any sort of corner.

I think everybody here can remember being 25-28 or so as a weekend warrior or part time athlete or whatever. You know how fucking hard it was to strain a muscle or do similar soft tissue injury? Some guys have weaker ligaments some guys have weaker connective tissue in general, some guys put on too much muscle too quickly and their joints and connective tissues aren't prepared for it and they pull an oblique or hammy or something: Eloy? He looks to play at about 18% body fat, and while he has muscle, he isn't a guy like Robert with tree trunks for thighs and a massive upper body. I have no fucking clue how a guy at his age, with his body type, keeps getting so many soft tissue issues unless he's simply not doing anything needed to stay on the field. I'm not even talking about doing a little work, it's almost like he's doing no work. At best, it's like he's lifting and training with no plan, and then in season he's just stupidly prone to soft tissue injuries that should not be happening to anybody at age 27. Eloy, at least to me, comes across as a guy that expected to roll out of bed and hit 280/340/500 for his career and just expected to never train. That's pretty much where I'm at with him. He's a guy that coasted on natural ability for too long and when he got to MLB and everybody has natural ability he got got.

Yes.

Tim Anderson was that guy, at least until whatever happened after TLR got here.

Which again is the point. Even the right pick can have set backs and failures, which is why the entire system is so important, and not just pointing to one guy who is NOW living up to his potential after so many years.

She doesn't write for the Sox, she covers the Tigers. She filled in for Merkin who didn't cover the games this weekend. He was at the Billy Joel/Stevie Nicks concert.

Shirley took over as amateur scouting director in September 2019. Sox first round picks since then: Garrett Crochet, Colson Montgomery, Noah Schultz, Jacob Gonzalez. The first guy is #2 in fWAR of all mlb pitchers this season. The next two are T50 prospects in MLB. We will see what these guys become at the big league level but that’s a pretty significant improvement in drafting and development from prior years.

Apparently he had a bad start

Can you see Jerry winning a bidding war for a manager? Yeah, that.

I thought this thread will just be a joke about how he came back so that means he's on the road to his next injury, did not realize he's injured again (had a great sunday!). What an embarrassment.

DFA him it’s time

What an athlete! How many times has this loser been injured simply running to first base? He should get a doctor’s note to use a scooter to get to first base after he bats.

The “who is the biggest bust of the rebuild?” question is so fascinating. Every time I think I know my answer, Kopech/Yoan/Eloy does something to change my mind.

Can't wait for this guy to be gone. This is beyond ridiculous.

I think he ran 7 feet before injuring himself. C Is Iloy just screwing with us at this point. Joe Biden can beat this guy in the 40 yd dash

I always got a kick out of it when people would say things like “Eloy will return in 3-4 weeks”, like it means something. And, Moncada.

And this is exactly why many Sox fans Don't see this as a playoff team for a really long time.