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Players aren't allowed to "train" like Piazza did anymore.

Greg, yep the 50s were a different era, most men wore suits and women wore dresses to Sox games. I went to 5 games in 1959 including game 2 of the World Series with my Uncle and Mom, he wore nice sport coats and she wore a dress with high heels. Most men wore fedoras, only kids wore baseball caps, fans didn’t wear team jerseys or jackets except again for kids. Funny story around 1953 on opening day I asked my Mom if she would buy me a Sox jacket at Sears, I get home after school and there’s a Cub jacket on my bed, Sox jackets had sold out so Mom bought me a Cub jacket, I was insanely mad. The atmosphere was pretty electric in the Go Go years with fans screaming GO GO every time a Sox speedster was on first especially Aparicio. When the Yankees came to town Comiskey got crazy with huge crowds, many Sox- Yankee games drew more than 50,000 and there was always a fight somewhere in the stands. No the fans didn’t complain like today, sort of unheard of, no internet, News on TV was on maybe a half hour at 6PM and another 15-30 minutes at 10 PM. Only 4 TV stations, 2-5-7 and 9, PBS came along in the early 60s on channel 11. Something different was there were no Saturday night games anywhere in MLB, the Sox drew best on Friday nights and Sundays when there was usually a double header. Fans had other things to do on Saturdays like grocery shopping and yard work as most worked Monday through Friday 9 to 5. Actually though the Sox outdrew the Cubs in the 50s and 60s I would bet the Cubs had larger crowds on Saturday afternoons than the Sox but not huge crowds, maybe 10-12 thousand at Wrigley and maybe 8,000 at a Sox game, even when the Yankees were in town, they would only draw 20,000 on a Saturday afternoon but for sure on Sunday there would be a packed house. Yes 1977 was a magical year. I'll never forget July 31 against the Royals, over 50,000 on hand and when the Sox came back and won the first game, Comiskey was so loud the place was shaking, never have I heard it so loud just like Blackhawk games at the the old Madhouse on Madison. IIRC after game 1 the Sox lead the division by 6.5 games but the Royals won game 2 and it was down hill the rest of the way, in fact IIRC the Royals swept us the next weekend in KC. KC went on to win the division with the Sox finishing 3rd at 90-72. Here’s a picture of me in that horrible Cubs jacket and cap my mother bought me in 1953 because Sears had sold out White Sox jackets and caps, I refused to look at the camera,

I love the approach. Keep injecting the system with as many up the middle bats, who can control the zone, as possible.

That's not how this works. That's not how this has worked for years. These prep players have leverage. They have college commitments they can honor. They can bet on themselves to make more money by going to school. NIL now factors into the equation as well. They have a number they will forgo all of this for, and it's up to the teams to deem if they want to pay that or go another route with another player.

After having guys like Robert, Moncada, and Eloy, "make up" is pretty important to me lol

Just imagine Getz - other gm - what’s wrong? Oh let me tell you what we do for these players…other gm shakes head, well, I guess we should up our offer - Sox having been telling him to choke up as part of their advanced analytics program….

"Look, Luis is extremely depressed being here. We think he'll do better in a more nurturing environment. Thus, I need your most extroverted prospect."

Poor Getz has to sell his own ineptitude to get Robert sold high.

Can’t complain about this draft. Looks like a normal baseball team draft.

EAT THE FUCKING MONEY!!!

Gotta drop off here. Things to do. Nothing on Cerda.

Wow, this sucks anyhow

I sure would like the Sox to acquire some extra draft picks for 2026. Would love the flexibility and bonus pool money that allows.

^ This sums it all up for me. The Sox will never be "consistently competitive" again (as the OP asked) as long as JR is in charge. Period. This organization is bad in so many ways and there's no quick fix until Jerry's no longer owner and there's a major fundamental change to how it is operated. Right now it's rotten to the core. We're stuck in baseball hell at least until Ishbia takes over and then we just have to hope he makes dramatic changes and actually hires competent people to run this team. That's not guaranteed to work, but it can't be worse than how things are going now. Until Jerry's no longer owner, any talk of which band-aids to slap on this team to make it legitimately competitive is simply a waste of my time.

One of my buddy's(Cardinals fan) watched that game with Closed Captioning on and thought it was the funniest thing ever when the last out was recorded cause he just saw... YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

Again, I would much rather hear about those things. It just is such a cop out of responsibility from the failure of the last rebuild. Let's talk about the kids mechanics, hit tool, power, defense, anything other than make up.

No no no, two hitters will solve everything

Who is the current owner of the White Sox? The answer is Jerry Reinsdorf. Justin Ishbia isn’t even on the front office page on the team website. You are a colossal waste of time. A true imbecile

Being traded to the white sox is known to rapidly deplete one’s serotonin.

My goodness Oneill Cruz

Honestly wonder if what Vaughn is doing in Milwaukee helps the case of Robert. Maybe getting out of Chicago cures all?

So much blame to go around. The most important person in MLB is talent evaluator.

But we have evidence of other players taking less money than the White Sox offer so don’t assume just opening the checkbook changes things.

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Travel baseball hitting instructor

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/top-college-senior-sign-mlb-draft-targets-for-2025/ Both Eikhoff and DePino are on the top seniors list at BA.

Depino is Burger-esque

Doyle has him at 287 though.

The issues were management and bringing in people to fit the kids. These same kids were all producing at high levels until said change and then they lost them forever. Can we talk about the make up of the ownership team instead? Nah, we'll use the assigned buzzword instead.

Considering the issues with this during the last rebuild attempt, I dont blame them for valuing this.

So it will probably be my jinx when he fails, but I do like to check in on the merch auctions around the Sox and their MiLB teams. Sometimes if I see a jersey I will, I will put in a bid either for a player of interest, or a jersey number I like if it is cheap enough. The Knights 4th of July jersey popped up recently, so I bid and won a Schultz jersey. I got it in the mail today, and it was autographed too! Nice win.

To be fair, Mark Buehrle is one of the craziest draft picks of all-time and the key to his pitching wasn't his stuff, it was the fact that he's one of the best defensive pitchers of all-time and pitched stupid fast.

We should have taken a safer pick like Vaughn or Madrigal!!

Reaching? I love the Fauske pick.

Gabe Davis will benefit from sounding like someone you've heard of before (then you remember you are thinking of the bills receiver)

Dude went from consensus first rounder to bust basically overnight. That was one of the wilder ones I can recall.

I kind of would want to see a statue of Ozzie hitting or fielding as well as a statue of him as manager. He deserves both imo

It’s an important thing. If guys don’t give a s%*#, it’s tough to become really good in most cases.

The buzzword I am already done with is "make up". Apparently everyone we draft is a high "make up" guy.

Any time the Padres are interested in a Sox player it makes me want to keep the Sox player.

Really shows they are committed to the rebuild and development of the minors

Three preps in our top 4 picks would be a welcome change of pace.

I'm with you. Hard to argue about a left handed hitting OF with a patient approach and some notable thump with solid tools across the board. I take this all day at 44.

I'm happy that you like watching the worst sox teams in history back to back years but some of us dont actually enjoy that at all. Hope that helps.

What is happening to this place? When did everyone go insane? what are we even doing here?

You just have to hope the kids develop. They’ve all been largely disappointing so far, no power what so ever, and it’s alarming.

You might want to re read the press release. JR has ceded no power and won’t per the release for at least 5 years.

I watched the replay of Buehrle's perfect game on CHSN, that was awesome. Hawk, "call your sons, call your daughters, call your friends, call your neighbors." Sorry, all you Hawk haters out there I loved the call.