WestEddy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: So Cease got less than what both MLBTR and Spotrac projected? Apparently, Scott Boras is a follower of Sports Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Seems like I could build a package around Mayo & Kjerstad…lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Orioles board is trying to get more pages on their Cease thread than ours. They've even lowered the post-per-page to 15 posts just so they can catch us. What complete rats. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Pitchers and catchers report in a month or so. Expecting Cease to be at Sox camp. Why? We're White Sox fans and we're not allowed to have nice things. Edited January 11 by baseball_gal_aly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 34 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: Pitchers and catchers report in a month or so. Expecting Cease to be at Sox camp. I'm beginning to feel that way too and I just hate taking that risk. Aside from the obvious injury risk, you basically need him to perform significantly better than 2023 to cancel out the value lost with each start he's not making for a potential trade partner. Can he do that? Of course. But it's something I'm hoping for rather than expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Demon Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, Snopek said: I'm beginning to feel that way too and I just hate taking that risk. Aside from the obvious injury risk, you basically need him to perform significantly better than 2023 to cancel out the value lost with each start he's not making for a potential trade partner. Can he do that? Of course. But it's something I'm hoping for rather than expecting. Yes, hope is not a strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Yes, hope is not a strategy. It is but not a good one. As we've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Seems like I could build a package around Mayo & Kjerstad…lol What an idiotic account and answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: What an idiotic account and answer. Come to daddy everybody. Mayo and Cowser continues to be my fair trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Jerksticks said: Come to daddy everybody. Mayo and Cowser continues to be my fair trade. I’m sure it’s your trade. My trade hope is Tyler Wells, Norby and Mountcastle. Im guessing that they decide on something in the middle though, if the 2 teams do a trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said: Pitchers and catchers report in a month or so. Expecting Cease to be at Sox camp. Why? We're White Sox fans and we're not allowed to have nice things. That's actually much better reasoning than "Cease isn't worth more than a back end Top 100 in terms of value" It's true that we're not allowed to have nice things and this organization just seems to have a losers DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: I’m sure it’s your trade. My trade hope is Tyler Wells, Norby and Mountcastle. Im guessing that they decide on something in the middle though, if the 2 teams do a trade. Lol @ your proposal. That isn't even in the same zip code as Cease. Seems both FOs both value Cowser over Kjerstad even though both fanbases seem to have it the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I'm still waiting to see what the O's do with Santander. If the O's are going to truly operate along the line of the Rays they can't afford to hold a productive player and let him go for nothing. You would think he'll be traded by the deadline and they'll be facing the same problem with Hays and Mullins soon also. How that translates for opportunities for Cowser, 23,( LH), Kjerstad, 24, (LH), Beavers , 22 ,(LH), Bradfield ,22, (LH) and Stowers, 26, (LH) is anyone's guess. If Santander (SH) goes into the season and puts up a 2.0 WAR at the end of July and the O's are in a close race it will be difficult to remove him from the team . If they trade him before the season starts who gets the starts in RF to take his place ? All their top guys are LH and one of Cowser or Kjerstad will need to produce. They would certainly get shots before Stowers does. Will the O's hedge their bets a little bit by looking into someone like Adam Duvall, Michael Taylor, Randal Grichuk all RH hitters or Aaron Hicks ,a switchhitter, who is a better RHH than LHH ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: I’m sure it’s your trade. My trade hope is Tyler Wells, Norby and Mountcastle. Im guessing that they decide on something in the middle though, if the 2 teams do a trade. You know the Sox have absolutely zero reason to want Mountcastle, but you suggested this terrible and unrealistic trade idea anyways? The Sox already have a mediocre and younger righty 1B that Sox fans don’t want. I realize it’s your trade hope but it’s not even close to reality. Edited January 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Yes, hope is not a strategy. Hope and over confidence often lead to the same end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I'm still waiting to see what the O's do with Santander. If the O's are going to truly operate along the line of the Rays they can't afford to hold a productive player and let him go for nothing. You would think he'll be traded by the deadline and they'll be facing the same problem with Hays and Mullins soon also. How that translates for opportunities for Cowser, 23,( LH), Kjerstad, 24, (LH), Beavers , 22 ,(LH), Bradfield ,22, (LH) and Stowers, 26, (LH) is anyone's guess. If Santander (SH) goes into the season and puts up a 2.0 WAR at the end of July and the O's are in a close race it will be difficult to remove him from the team . If they trade him before the season starts who gets the starts in RF to take his place ? All their top guys are LH and one of Cowser or Kjerstad will need to produce. They would certainly get shots before Stowers does. Will the O's hedge their bets a little bit by looking into someone like Adam Duvall, Michael Taylor, Randal Grichuk all RH hitters or Aaron Hicks ,a switchhitter, who is a better RHH than LHH ? Draft pick compensation isn’t nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fathom Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: Draft pick compensation isn’t nothing. I doubt they’d offer him a QO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Lol @ your proposal. That isn't even in the same zip code as Cease. Seems both FOs both value Cowser over Kjerstad even though both fanbases seem to have it the other way around. Of course it’s a laughable proposal….as was the other proposal. It was a joke/sarcasm. As for Cowser vs Kjerstad, I go back and forth on this and the presence of Beavers is a big deal in this too. I think I’m currently leaning towards preferring Cowser because of his defense and the need for good defense in our spacious LF. Edited January 11 by Sports Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) A certain someone will get himself fired right out of the gate if he botches both Getz and Robert. Of course, JR will double down out of stubborness to prove he was right all along and that Getzie will someday win AL Executive of the Year like Hahn. Edited January 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I love posturing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Just now, fathom said: Zero reason to panic until the Orioles & Yankees actually add starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: Of course it’s a laughable proposal….as was the other proposal. It was a joke/sarcasm. As for Cowser vs Kjerstad, I go back and forth on this and the presence of Beavers is a big deal in this too. I think I’m currently leaning towards preferring Cowser because of his defense and the need for good defense in our spacious LF. Who is the high end pitcher in these scenarios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, fathom said: This guy knows nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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