hi8is Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: He doesn't feel pressure to make a trade. Just because he has probably the deepest farm system in baseball doesn't mean he has to deal from it. “We are as well-equipped as any team to rattle off prospect packages for any player,” said Elias. “That doesn’t mean that we want to do that just because we have the No. 1 farm system, and we could theoretically outbid any team. At some point it becomes a trade that you don’t want to do. It equips us to get involved in every conversation. But there is more to making trades than just being the high bidder. The trade has to make sense. A lot of our prospects are so close to the majors if they are not there yet. These are guys that are going to help the 2024 O’s too. We have to keep all that in mind.” I asked Elias if the Orioles are prepared to lose some of their best prospects? “We are definitely prepared to. We’ve had a lot of conversations dating back to the trade deadline where we’ve made some of our more famous prospects available. Just because we have this wonderful farm system and we theoretically would have the ability to match or top people’s trade offers, we have to worry about the balance of the trade itself. “Lot of our players are prospects. These are guys that have tools and are performing. Performing in Triple-A and are consensus top 50 prospects in baseball. We have teams asking about them left and right. You don’t just throw those guys into trades and write it off. Those are players that are going to be helping soon and for a long time. We’ve got to balance that. It’s fun for us to be in a position where we can get into every trade conversation. “But this perception that we have too many prospects and we need to get rid of some of them, that doesn’t register with me. We want to have a very talented organization. We need to make good trades, we don’t need to jettison players. But we’re very open to and very realistic about making our prospects available because there are impact players out there. You have to give something to get something.” https://www.masnsports.com/blog/o-s-mike-elias-on-weighing-trade-possibilities-and-mlb-network-s-dan-o-dowd-on-the-orioles I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, hi8is said: I like him. It should be noted that Thomas Jefferson is the #1 public STEM high school in the US and is notoriously competitive with Asian students/parents these days. Elias graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Virginia,[1] where he was born.[2] He attended Yale University, graduating in 2006.[3] He played college baseball for the Yale Bulldogs as a pitcher.[4] After his sophomore season, Elias required surgery to repair a torn labrum.[5] After graduating from Yale, Elias became a scout for the St. Louis Cardinals in 2007.[3] When the Houston Astros hired Jeff Luhnow from the Cardinals as their general manager in 2011, Elias went to Houston with him as special assistant to the GM before being hired as Scouting Director in August of 2012.[6] In 2016, after David Stearns was hired by the Milwaukee Brewers as their general manager, the Astros promoted Elias to fill Stearns' role as assistant general manager. He was given oversight of player development and minor league operations.[7 wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Can just imagine Texsox Ptac or even Rabbit responding to this one... "In the final weeks of 2022, Thomas Jefferson parent Shawna Yashar made an odd discovery. Her son had earned a National Merit Scholar award commending him for his high performance on the PSAT he took in the fall of 2021. Under normal circumstances, this honor would have been cause for celebration — it’s a potent garland on a college application. But neither Shawna nor her son had any idea that he had earned the award when they were submitting those applications. In fact, none of the TJ recipients of the National Merit Scholars award knew because school officials intentionally decided to keep this information to themselves for fear that it might hurt the feelings of students who did not receive an award." https://thehill.com/opinion/education/3821078-national-merit-award-scandal-is-the-latest-chapter-in-tjs-war-on-achievement/ Edited January 22 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Pancakes and waffles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Cool, enjoy having no place to play all of those prospects while finishing 3rd because your pitching sucks… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, caulfield12 said: It should be noted that Thomas Jefferson is the #1 public STEM high school in the US and is notoriously competitive with Asian students/parents these days. Elias graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Virginia,[1] where he was born.[2] He attended Yale University, graduating in 2006.[3] He played college baseball for the Yale Bulldogs as a pitcher.[4] After his sophomore season, Elias required surgery to repair a torn labrum.[5] After graduating from Yale, Elias became a scout for the St. Louis Cardinals in 2007.[3] When the Houston Astros hired Jeff Luhnow from the Cardinals as their general manager in 2011, Elias went to Houston with him as special assistant to the GM before being hired as Scouting Director in August of 2012.[6] In 2016, after David Stearns was hired by the Milwaukee Brewers as their general manager, the Astros promoted Elias to fill Stearns' role as assistant general manager. He was given oversight of player development and minor league operations.[7 wikipedia I wish he was our GM 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, hi8is said: I wish he was our GM 😆 Jefferson would have run his team with an iron fist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Pancakes and waffles Would sure be nice if our GM had previous experience with both Luhnow and Stearns, etc. Edited January 22 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 How many infielders do they need. Ortiz come on down lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 At least Phil Nevin is happy...or potentially unhappy with all the overwhelming infield talent just waiting to be unleashed on the major leagues blocking his kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Orioles losing another option with paxton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Orioles losing another option with paxton Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Only TWO months until Padres/Dodgers in SEOUL...with more than half the free agent class still remaining unsigned. https://www.mlb.com/press-release/press-release-dodgers-to-open-2024-season-in-seoul-south-korea March 20th/21st home and away, first regular season MLB games played on Korean soil Edited January 23 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 46 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Orioles losing another option with paxton But Dodgers were a possibility still for Cease, IMO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, fathom said: But Dodgers were a possibility still for Cease, IMO Second most discussed after the Orioles, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/19/2024 at 11:30 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Why in the world would we do this? Ramos is a 50 FV prospect. Because White Sox do stupid things. Actually, I was being sarcastic. I'm a Ramos fan, so I wouldn't be surprised if Sox throw him in to make a trade, and then get burned for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Someone's going to trade For Dylan Cease 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 hours ago, fathom said: But Dodgers were a possibility still for Cease, IMO Do you think the Dodgers resign Kershaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 27 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Someone's going to trade For Dylan Cease Quote Teams don’t have to like it. In fact, they pretty clearly don’t like it – half of the reporting around Cease this offseason has been teams anonymously noting that the White Sox are asking for too much. If you take a strict, surplus value-maximization view of the world, those teams might be right. In the real world, however, the White Sox have something that everyone else wants, and even if everyone’s crying about it now, I think that some team is going to give them what they’re asking for by the time the season starts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 As each day goes by, especially with almost no rumors, Cease being with the Sox when the season starts seems more likely. However, this whole off season has been so slow. There are still quite a few top free agents (pitching and position players) available. I'm wondering if we're going to see a flurry of activity right before teams report for spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Do you think the Dodgers resign Kershaw? I feel like they will when Spring Training starts so they can place him on 60-day IL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 59 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I feel like they will when Spring Training starts so they can place him on 60-day IL. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, DirtySox said: Who's going to worry about the Sox getting too much talent back, though? Even with a head start of 3-4 big trades and Rodon and then Robert and multiple top five picks like Madrigal and Vaughn...they still completely screwed it up. In the AL Central. Almost like a charity for other teams to help put "another" viable team into Chicago with a new downtown stadium to help raise the value of all the other teams in the league. They're still a 3-5 tear slog away due to free agent and young int'l talent handicaps that are self-sabotaging the entire enterprise. It's not like you have a real visionary GM with a blank checkbook. Heck, the Royals and city are going to spend $2+ to $6.4 billion on their project and the consensus is the White Sox will struggle to get over the $1 billion hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, hogan873 said: As each day goes by, especially with almost no rumors, Cease being with the Sox when the season starts seems more likely. However, this whole off season has been so slow. There are still quite a few top free agents (pitching and position players) available. I'm wondering if we're going to see a flurry of activity right before teams report for spring training. Clearly on the free agent front you're going to have a lot of movement before March as, following the Fangraphs list, just under half of the top 50 free agents are currently available! For guys like Montgomery and Snell, there are going to be people making choices they don't want. Either the players will have to take what is offered, or they will have to take short term deals, or maybe some team steps up and makes an offer they otherwise didn't want to make. There will be a lot of that going on. But in terms of trades, the high number of players available means that some guys will come cheaper than expected on the free agent market. That continues to make big value trades unlikely to happen. The hope was someone would get desperate once the big free agent pitchers signed, but the big free agent pitchers aren't signed and no one appears desperate to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Clearly on the free agent front you're going to have a lot of movement before March as, following the Fangraphs list, just under half of the top 50 free agents are currently available! For guys like Montgomery and Snell, there are going to be people making choices they don't want. Either the players will have to take what is offered, or they will have to take short term deals, or maybe some team steps up and makes an offer they otherwise didn't want to make. There will be a lot of that going on. But in terms of trades, the high number of players available means that some guys will come cheaper than expected on the free agent market. That continues to make big value trades unlikely to happen. The hope was someone would get desperate once the big free agent pitchers signed, but the big free agent pitchers aren't signed and no one appears desperate to do so. I think a complicating factor is that Boras represents all of the best still involved. Everyone knows he will wait even into Spring training so the market is just stalled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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