WestEddy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Pauley and Rosario aren't even likely to be the equivalent of Nicky Ortiz. Both are relative long shots. Batten as well. Understood. Point being, dude backs into guess-timating a package that has one of their top 3 pitching prospects, one of their top OF prospects, their 2nd round RHP pick from 2022, and potential utility infielder filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: At some point soon, the Sox will have money to spend. The main challenge will be signing stars and impact SP under Jerry. Even mercenary SP will likely be too rich for Jerry’s blood from a risk standpoint. As such, frontline pitching more or less needs to be developed (or traded for a la Lynn). I have no problem getting back a pitching prospect with a TOR ceiling for Cease, but would hate for a package of multiple mid-rotation types. Let’s swing for the fences in terms of ceiling with a Cease trade and use our money to add good (not great) players. The odds are fair that by the time the Sox could be decent again, that current ownership is no longer in the picture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 55 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: 1.5 times equals 36m SV times 1.5 = 54m SV roughly NYY: Jones (34) plus Hampton (16) and a small third piece OR Arias (21) plus Hampton (16) plus Lalane (11) plus a small fourth piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't suggest anybody listen to this. I did while working late last night. It's interesting listening to idiot fanbois from other teams gush over Dylan Cease. One dope thinks Cease won a Cy Young, and the main guy literally had to look up the word "droves" to understand the volume of White Sox scouts watching the Rangers that day. But I think it's a respectful take, not the "I'd maybe trade Anthony Rizzo straight up, but nothing more" level of disdain. They kind of gush over Jack Leiter, and compare him to Thorpe (#5), Snelling (#3) and Lesko (#4). The guy who believes Cease won a Cy Young compares Brock Porter to the level of prospect that Graham Pauly (#11) or Eguy Rosario (#16) are. They come up with a "similar" package of one of (thorpe, snelling, lesko), one of (pauly, rosario), Sam Zavala (#7) and maybe Adam Mazur (#10). The numbers are MLB's Padres' system rankings. I don't endorse. Just thought it was interesting to get bro-dude Padre-fan take on what they think Cease would cost them. They get into talking about a possible trade after 11:00. I do like Mazur and Zavala as a 3rd, but man there's no #2 piece there. Edited March 13 by Squirmin' for Yermin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: But are we policing the reporters who police the reporters who police the policers? So f*** the police(rs)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The odds are fair that by the time the Sox could be decent again, that current ownership is no longer in the picture. I'd say current ownership would have to be no longer in the picture for them to be decent again, unless they get really lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteSox2023 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: Dum dum dum dummmmmm. So basically, he could be out for the season if he ends up requiring surgery after the appointment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 34 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Understood. Point being, dude backs into guess-timating a package that has one of their top 3 pitching prospects, one of their top OF prospects, their 2nd round RHP pick from 2022, and potential utility infielder filler. Marsee and Head would be the two top outfielders at the moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Dum dum dum dummmmmm. So basically, he could be out for the season if he ends up requiring surgery after the appointment. Yeah, it sounds like they are shutting him down and trying the rest & rehab approach hoping to stave off surgery. Time to pony up Cashman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Dum dum dum dummmmmm. So basically, he could be out for the season if he ends up requiring surgery after the appointment. Jimmy Lambert and Cole like two ships passing in the night...same doctor. Let's not forget all the variables with Rodon and Nestor Cortes coming off injuries as well...Rodon recently struggling to ramp his FB velo back up again in ST. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Cole out 1-2 months. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/gerrit-cole-injury-update-yankees-ace-could-miss-up-to-two-months-with-elbow-issue-per-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 37 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I do like Mazur and Zavala as a 3rd, but man there's no #2 piece there. How can the #5/6 system in baseball not have one? Then it would have to be some combo of Marsee Head DeVrieze. There's only two untradeables in Merrill and Salas. Unfortunately Padres can't absorb deals for Benintendi Jimenez and Moncada...well, that's more for JR's pocketbook sake I guess. If SD could eat half the Benintendi deal...for example. Of course, that would limit the prospect return while simultaneously being classic JR "screw the fans." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 lol the ole rest and rehab of a partially torn UCL huh. Dr Andrew’s will be seeing you in July, Gerrit 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: How can the #5/6 system in baseball not have one? Then it would have to be some combo of Marsee Head DeVrieze. There's only two untradeables in Merrill and Salas. Unfortunately Padres can't absorb deals for Benintendi Jimenez and Moncada...well, that's more for JR's pocketbook sake I guess. If SD could eat half the Benintendi deal...for example. Of course, that would limit the prospect return while simultaneously being classic JR "screw the fans." Head nor Marsee is a #2 peice in a Cease deal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: lol the ole rest and rehab of a partially torn UCL huh. Dr Andrew’s will be seeing you in July, Gerrit His next visit is to Mr Miyagi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 19 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I'd say current ownership would have to be no longer in the picture for them to be decent again, unless they get really lucky. The chicken or the egg coming first works either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: lol the ole rest and rehab of a partially torn UCL huh. Dr Andrew’s will be seeing you in July, Gerrit I can see the pro surgery people exloding as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 The Rangers have a better farm system. You could get a quality haul for Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, RibbieRubarb said: The Rangers have a better farm system. You could get a quality haul for Cease. I think it’s top heavy with Carter and Langford though. Those guys won’t move for Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I don't get excited about Arias. We have a lot of SS prospects right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: lol the ole rest and rehab of a partially torn UCL huh. Dr Andrew’s will be seeing you in July, Gerrit i think it sort of worked with Tanaka, but even then, he wasn't what he was supposed to be. Other than that, has the rest and rehab ever worked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, Baron said: His next visit is to Mr Miyagi. I would say that was his LAST visit as opposed to his next 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: i think it sort of worked with Tanaka, but even then, he wasn't what he was supposed to be. Other than that, has the rest and rehab ever worked? It seems Tanaka and to an extent Liam are the only guys that really got away with it for a long period of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I think it’s top heavy with Carter and Langford though. Those guys won’t move for Cease. You won't get them...You could get Leiter, Foscue, or Walcott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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