SoCalChiSox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Jimmy, anything new on the Cease front? You implied the other day things were heating up with BAL again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I don't blame anyone for thinking that nothing has changed until proven otherwise. Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? 19 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Jimmy, anything new on the Cease front? You implied the other day things were heating up with BAL again. I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is crazy. We need to see Gonzalez play this year before making any sort of declaration like this. Smith-Njigba isn’t really a great fit as a LHH OF. Sox have a 40-man crunch already. Again, Sox have a real 40-man crunch. No they don’t. A real 40-man crunch implies they would lose someone of significance. This roster is trash and there are at least 10 guys they could cut today and very few people would care. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now This off season has given big time collusion vibes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This off season has given big time collusion vibes. Not just this one, but the last few in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already? I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 20 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already? I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February. They believed that if they leaked enough times that there was a hot market for him, it would lead to a hot market for him. They told everyone who would listen for two months how hot his market was and were surprised that didn’t work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: They believed that if they leaked enough times that there was a hot market for him, it would lead to a hot market for him. They told everyone who would listen for two months how hot his market was and were surprised that didn’t work. My personal belief is there was a hot market, but their asking price was insane. I said it at the time, but the Reds proposed trade with Lowder, Petty and the two other prospects (not the ridiculous 5 prospect one that was bogus) made me think Getz was asking for way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAthewave69420 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 52 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now If Snell goes to NYY, does BAL get desperate for Cease 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Just now, DFAthewave69420 said: If Snell goes to NYY, does BAL get desperate for Cease 🤔 You mean Bal and Luzardo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, fathom said: My personal belief is there was a hot market, but their asking price was insane. I said it at the time, but the Reds proposed trade with Lowder, Petty and the two other prospects (not the ridiculous 5 prospect one that was bogus) made me think Getz was asking for way too much. That's fine, as there will probably be a hot market for him in July as well. And maybe then they'll get what they want. I don't think it's a bad thing a deal hasn't gotten done. Hell, if nothing else it cooled off Orioles fans crowing on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 49 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: No they don’t. A real 40-man crunch implies they would lose someone of significance. This roster is trash and there are at least 10 guys they could cut today and very few people would care. I don’t agree. It’s not that easy to navigate right now. 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This off season has given big time collusion vibes. As far as clubs having the same valuations, yes. The QO is brutal though. Guys like Bellinger and Snell should’ve considered taking the QO if they wanted 7-10 year deals. Now that they have the QO attached, it makes a 1-2 year deal far less likely. 30 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already? I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February. I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. With Snell and Bellinger I think the path to that was obvious. Who wants to guarantee those guys $200 million with how inconsistent they’ve been? Some guys teams got out ahead of, like Nola, but it was obvious this market would be iffy this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Notes on Crochet, Toussaint and Shuster https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/02/18/touki-toussaints-versatility-needed-commodity-for-white-sox-pitching-staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t agree. It’s not that easy to navigate right now. As far as clubs having the same valuations, yes. The QO is brutal though. Guys like Bellinger and Snell should’ve considered taking the QO if they wanted 7-10 year deals. Now that they have the QO attached, it makes a 1-2 year deal far less likely. I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. It’s very easy to navigate right now. The Sox have tons of guys they could cut who would likely clear waivers and in the event that they don’t, it’s not some devastating loss. They should absolutely be using this time to upgrade the 40-man when possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, DFAthewave69420 said: If Snell goes to NYY, does BAL get desperate for Cease 🤔 No 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 47 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It’s very easy to navigate right now. The Sox have tons of guys they could cut who would likely clear waivers and in the event that they don’t, it’s not some devastating loss. They should absolutely be using this time to upgrade the 40-man when possible. Romy Gonzalez got claimed. Teams take chances all the time on imperfect players if they think they can fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Romy Gonzalez got claimed. Teams take chances all the time on imperfect players if they think they can fix them. And that’s fine. The White Sox still do not have a real crunch at the 40-man at the moment. They just don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 53 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: And that’s fine. The White Sox still do not have a real crunch at the 40-man at the moment. They just don’t. There is a decent chance that some young guy the White Sox dump from their 40 man this year (Romy, Sosa, Colas, Lee etc.) goes on to be a quality player with some other team. It might not count as a 40 man crunch but they've created something truly weird here, where they are absolutely overloaded with NRIs and they have a manager who already has indicated he would rather play a 40 year old NRI than a promising kid. Maybe it's a "voluntary roster crunch" or a "managerial roster crunch", because the manager wants the vets and the kids have to be dumped as a consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/02/18/nothing-but-sunny-skies-over-manager-pedro-grifols-second-white-sox-camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already? I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February. Bor-ASS starting to learn baseball does not revolve around his clients inflated asking prices forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: There is a decent chance that some young guy the White Sox dump from their 40 man this year (Romy, Sosa, Colas, Lee etc.) goes on to be a quality player with some other team. It might not count as a 40 man crunch but they've created something truly weird here, where they are absolutely overloaded with NRIs and they have a manager who already has indicated he would rather play a 40 year old NRI than a promising kid. Maybe it's a "voluntary roster crunch" or a "managerial roster crunch", because the manager wants the vets and the kids have to be dumped as a consequence. I’m not even really referring to those guys. I’m more so referring the Tanner Banks, Sammy Peralta, Jesse Scholtens types. No one is going to be that devastated if those guys get claimed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 28 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I’m not even really referring to those guys. I’m more so referring the Tanner Banks, Sammy Peralta, Jesse Scholtens types. No one is going to be that devastated if those guys get claimed. Exactly. If Getz can’t cut a guy like Scholtens loose for a 24 year old lefty outfielder with good minor league numbers, he’s doing the GM thing wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Exactly. If Getz can’t cut a guy like Scholtens loose for a 24 year old lefty outfielder with good minor league numbers, he’s doing the GM thing wrong. 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I’m not even really referring to those guys. I’m more so referring the Tanner Banks, Sammy Peralta, Jesse Scholtens types. No one is going to be that devastated if those guys get claimed. Jimmy Lambert, Gavin Sheets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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