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On the subject of Hahn and his trades, I've got a suggestion. It's clear the Sox are going to need more pitching to make the jump hopefully next year regardless of if the injured pitchers come back healthy. Today you damn well better have six guys who can go, given injuries and slumps. Personally I'd love a seventh guy too either a top prospect or a vet thankful to have a nice payday at the Triple A level. Anyway, what I'd do if I was Hahn would be to try to get some pitching now (in the next month) not necessarily for this season but for the future and to "beat the rush" as it were when the big money teams are going to be heavily involved in the few free agent pitchers out there or a bunch of teams are going to be willing to "up the ante" for trading for pitchers. Remember when the Sox got Freddy Garcia and Jose Contreras in mid-season 2004? They only had to deal with one team each in the deal...not trying to work against a number of them. I'd do a serious search of the teams that are going to be DOA in a few weeks, see if they have some good pitchers available and make a deal or two right now. Then you aren't in a desperation mode come the off season when it comes to pitching and you may be able to even better yourself by working from a possible strength. Just a thought.

NASHVILLE CAN WAIT

In a stunning turn of events, look who's here for some good ol' fashioned negativity! Top prospects never struggle! Plus I took your advice and got a dog, so take your extreme uselessness elsewhere.

Rick deserves flack for his shortcomings undoubtedly - the draft still hasnt shown anything for him yet and his FA signings have not been great. But... let's talk about Rick's trades and the risks he took trusting his team with the talent they still saw. Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease for Quintana. Could he have possibly gotten a better package? If Eloy continues to grow and Cease is even a back end guy this is a steal assuming Eloy is the player he has shown he can be. I'd say no. Eloy a franchise offensive talent and cease just needs to be good enough to start for this to be a huge win. The Chris Sale trade will never be lopsided. Sale is too good for that but if he netted a 4-5+ WAR 3rd baseman for 6 years and a 3 starter (which is conservative) with a 2-3 WAR in Kopech then both sides win and Hahn looks sharp for him moving that talent into his window. The Adam Eaton trade. This could be an all-timer. If Lopez finds consistency or dunning bounces back, adding onto the fact that giolito alone would more than enough, this turns into an all time trade win. Giolito was trending downward but the arm talent was there. The Sox love the term arm talent in their organization. They maximized this one and now need to find that potion with reynaldo We can hate on Hahn and we can claim he had great assets but plenty of guys have traded away great assets for nothing. It looks like Hahn has traded his assets for the exact right pieces. Kudos. Go Sox.

Robert walk. Nice at bat. Finally laid off all the breaking crap out of the zone.

Would for sure bring a new DH for the Wrigley games.

Rutherford with an RBI triple down the right field line.

Both Robert and Madrigal in the lineup tonight.

Moncada might be available to PH tonight, should start tomorrow, per Ricky as noted on twitter.

I think it's safe to say at this point that RH's rebuilding trades have put this team in a position to make a jump in 2020, and your evaluations of each of those 3 trades, while somewhat optimistic, aren't unfairly so. However, those are not the entirety of Rick Hahn's trades. There's one in 2016 that we still will not even mention in this discussion, but even ignoring that one, Rick Hahn remains the 2nd best GM the Athletics have. These down years were substantially caused by Rick Hahn being willing to sacrifice years down the road for his winning teams in 2015 and 2016, and the trades where he gave up guys who are now solid big leaguers were a big part of that. Yes, several of those guys took a lot of work, but Oakland did that work and now they have several solid big leaguers out of it. Rick Hahn is the difference between Oakland being a .500 team and Oakland being 5 games below .500 right now, and they have been less lucky than we have. And yeah, I'm going to drag the Colome trade into this too, because it still was not a smart move. We gave up a player under team control for 5 years for one under control for 2 years. At least last year, we should have been doing the exact opposite. If we did that because our staff is too lazy to work with a catcher on their development, that is not an excuse. If we traded Colome for a young catcher who currently was putting up solid numbers and had improved on everything in his game year over year, we would be saying "There's a good chance our catcher's spot is solved, maybe it's not with an all star but this frees up money to go sign Cole and we can move Collins to 1b right now". Instead we're still talking about Grandal and wondering if Collins can play there. That trade fits in with the trend of his previous ones - making moves that are too aggressive for his roster to support, giving up on guys because either he can't see how they could develop or because his organization is too lazy to deal with them. We're probably going to have to do some moves like that next year to find a pitcher or two, and that move doesn't look particularly good in the light of him making the exact same kind of mistake with guys in 2015 and 2016. So I'll go so far as to say that RH's rebuilding trades are showing positive promise this year, but his "Win now" trades for established big leaguers have been setbacks for the franchise almost every time. Heck, that phrase describes his first couple years too.

Lucas Giolito needs to introduce Hansen to his high school coach.

I’m super pumped Hansen is getting a start tonight. If he can even be 80% of the guy we saw in 2017, he’ll be more than capable of filling a rotation spot.

I applaud everyone's proper pronoun usage in this thread. Soxtalk is so progressive.

Wait, THEY Alec Hansen is starting tonight?

Hansen finally starting again!

MLB Network had a lot on both Eloy and Gio. They went on about Gio putting himself in line to start the ASG, with I believe Plesac saying he’s been the best pitcher in MLB the last 2 months. They even went on about Gio’s change, which Plesac said was the best in the game currently, he called it a Bugs Bunny pitch.

The White sox are 31st out of 30 teams in notoriety in the mlb, the organizantion has done a poor job of selling their product, they are a sears store on Michigan ave.

Ricky looks a lot smarter with Alonso out of the lineup.

Is the front page of mlb.com like really influential or something? Who cares.

They already called up Despaigne

Absolutely, yes. If he doesn't win it unanimously, something's fishy. edit- this was sarcasm by the way

Full house dud time after time

I was and still am the first one to work. As a manager I appreciated employees who were professional and arrived on time. I also was very accommodating for doctor's appointments, school meetings, and all those things that require people to leave for part of a day. But if you can't figure out how to be at work on time most days I assume you don't care much about the job. I remember one employee who was late literally half the time. His excuse was his commute was anywhere from 30 minutes to 45 minutes. He always left 30 minutes before his start and it wasn't his fault if he was late. I asked why he didn't just leave 45 minutes before work. His answer was he didn't want to be early. Do you think he was ever promoted?

Things people were saying last year about Gio.

OPS at .800 now too

This is next level terrible posting.

Anybody else like to see Palka back with the Sox. Has 14 Homers at Charlotte since being sent down.

After the success Giolito has had, it’s hard to imagine they give up on Lopez as a starter.

1 guy worked a count, 1 guy has a hit, coincidence?

Horrible strike call.

Another friend of Manny that I will be happy to say goodbye to.

5 walks. Nightmare. He's done.

Should be a late start and play all the way through. Everything I'm seeing. Kevin Roth on Twitter is a good follow. Covers all of the weather for games and gives updates as the storms develop.

Hahn won that trade.

Haven't you heard...he's a candidate for Manager Of The Year.

So watching Pilkington for the first time. He works super fast. Gets it and throws it. Lots of batters stepping out to try and slow him down. Lots of time being called. Fastball doesn't look like anything special. Throws his slider and change-up often. Uses the whole repertoire. Is in and out, up and down. Curious what the fastball is at. He's definitely not blowing it by people.

Good god man. That .734 OPS was good for a wRC+ of 111 and that’s not even park adjusted. That is phenomenal for a 22 year old who as expected had some initial struggles making the biggest jump in minor league ball.

And pitch with pace and aggression.

Sure. But I would also point out that he’s 27.

8-6 to be exact

The Sox are going to win today

You only need one team that views them as the answer to their late innings problem. I need to be over compensated. Actually RH has been very good in being over compensated in trades where he has something to sell.

He did well at AA last year and he broke his hand this spring. Hand and wrist injuries kill hitters. This is a lost season for Basabe.

.875 OPS in April, .766 in May, .853 in June. James McCann last 28 days: .724 OPS. And no, it's not even worth looking at their BABIP numbers to say which one of those 2 is going to be best described by "fading". He's absolutely been better than expected but "our organization is unwilling to teach catchers how to catch" is not an excuse.

“He whom shall not be named” has not been mentioned.

Just depends where you work. Many union shops will tell you to go home without pay if you click in more than 5 minutes late.

You should see the shit some people at my job getaway with. Show up ten mins late consistently and supervisors don't care. Unfortunately I have a conscience that makes me 10 mins early every day. I've been pissed and what to show up late just because and I cant. It's a curse.

Do you realize there are new wave trade-happy fans who actively would be glad to trade Bummer, Colome and after last night Herrera, as well as Abreu, McCann Alonso (obviously he's worth nothing) and Leury all in the name of flipping. That could re-stack the system with prospects to develop and talk about.

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