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im going to get a lot of hate and might lose the little reputation i have on this site, but i like hotdogs with ketchup on them.

"why are people talking about the biggest story in baseball"

I've never understood why Chicago is known for their hot dogs without ketchup and deep dish pizza when the Italian Beef is a much better local product.

From Bowden's Athletic piece. https://theathletic.com/3435069/2022/07/20/juan-soto-mlb-trade-market/ Why yes, I would trade Eloy, Yoelqui, Jose Rodriguez, and Anderson Severino for Juan Soto. ?

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I am in Camp Our Window is only 2-3 More Years, and This is our Big Chance.

He's ALREADY been worth about 50 million dollars. I have no idea why he's "done." And it absolutely isn't a "terrible contract."

You wouldn't trade Montgomery for Juan Soto?

How can those stats be right? I read right here on this board that he just hit his first HR two days ago!

Exactly . Chris sale was traded and he was cost controlled for 3 years and how much did the Sox get for him ? A look back: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/this-trade-in-history-chris-sale-to-the-red-sox/ Moncada is, at this time, considered the #1 prospect in baseball by Fangraphs (who rate him a 70, which is rare); #2 overall in the sport by both Baseball America and MLB Pipeline; and #5 by Baseball Prospectus. In other words, there is strong consensus that he’ll be a future star, and his stats validate it: at age 21, he put up a 156 WRC+ at High-A, followed by a 152 WRC+ at AA, which earned him a late-season cup of coffee with the big club. There’s some doubt about whether he’ll land at 2B or 3B, but no one doubts that his bat will be elite. You rarely see a prospect with a triple-digit valuation, but this one seems justified. *Kopech is, at this time, ranked #32 at Baseball America, #10 at MLB Pipeline, and #36 at Baseball Prospectus. Fangraphs rates him a 55 (on the traditional scouting scale of 20-80, where 50 is considered good). All of that suggests he’ll be a future impact arm – most likely as a #2 starter – although Eric Longenhagen of Fangraphs does note that comes with risk – he’s had some injury issues and off-field incidents, and his high-octane velo coupled with delivery issues suggests some reliever risk. Basabe was projected as maybe a 4th OF type and Victor Diaz was a throw in RHP. Soto has 2.5 years left and his salary is not cost controlled. He'll be getting record arbitration numbers. The Sox don't have a Moncada type and Montgomery might be too far away for the Nats to consider him a Top Ten Prospect but realistically that's where Montgomery is headed but he has to continue doing the things he's doing now for another season for him to reach the top 10. Colas isn't ranked in the Top 100 . He might get there at the end of the year if he continues to crush at AA. He had some good exposure getting to the Futures game and the players in that game are just the types the Nats want ,AA and AAA type high ranking players. Colas is older than Soto but a better athlete, better fielder easily, LH like Soto . He might have to crack the Top 50 prospects list but that isn't going to happen before the Nats trade him unless it doesn't happen by the deadline. Considering it's Cola's 1st year, he's adjusted well and hopefully he climbs through the system faster now. He's now at a level where he's age appropriate so raking at Birmingham would mean Colas might also be a fast riser and crack the Top 100 whenever they do them again in the winter. But as an older player in his 1st year , he just hasn't been around long enough and hadn't been seen throughout an American HS and College career to get highly ranked .He may already be a Top 50 guy by some scouts estimations but it won't show in rankings. The cost controlled salary Sale had means a lot more to potential suitors than Soto's whatever he gets in arbitration numbers means to his suitors . He has less years remaining than Sale did. But he is an everyday player whose hitting is so good it makes up for his fielding. He may never get to 7 fWAR again but for the next 2.5 he should be around 15 fWAR if he stays healthy which is always a concern . Sox got 1 great hitting and speed prospect and 1 very good pitching prospect a guy with a 50/50 chance of having a MLB career and a throw in pitcher who had 93 innings , nothing above A ball and nothing outstanding in his over all numbers but had a live arm. The Red Sox prospects in their system were ranked 1, 3, 8 and 28. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/red-sox-to-acquire-chris-sale.html

Isn't the Twins rotation a little short? I'm just trying to help.

I’d happily sign Conforto to a 2 year $15M deal whether he is ready to contribute this season or not.

Back on the field in September… coming in off the shelf… after his worst season… Hard pass.

I had to go look up what a Chicago Dog is. Yeah, Yoan, I dislike a lot about your game at times, but we're 100% in agreement on that. Nothing about a Chicago dog looks appealing to me at all.

Elote.

Trading Vaughn as the centerpiece of Soto allows the rest of the roster to fall into much better place, assuming that Abreu is going no where (probably safe assumption). I love AV. But that is a move I'd make.

I am incredibly pro going after Soto but I just don't see the point if you trade vaughn. Absolutely try to parlay Eloy into parts for Soto, but Vaughn? The point of going all in for soto is not to tread water.

This. Most of this board has lost all ability to look at Grandal objectively. I bet he comes back and looks much closer to late season 21 Grandal than early season 22 Grandal.

No thanks.

If Eloy is ready to go, and Vaughn and Robert are back, and you still have Pollock, the OF is full again. Once you get Grandal back, you get another LH power bat for the middle of the order. Abreu and Vaughn are your top 2 first basemen, with Grandal potentially getting time there. The same thing would happen at DH for whichever guy wasn't playing in the field. I would rather have another catcher than Sheets right now.

The Machado thread was like 300, so all things considered, we've learned.

As one of AV's biggest fans, I would take that bet a million times.

Absolutely bonkers to think that the Nats have signed Stras to multiple lengthy high paying contracts and he has blown out his arm twice and has pitched exactly 5 games in the last three seasons, and they are content to let not one but TWO home-grown generational left handed outfield bats walk out the door because they don’t want to pay fair price. And the Lerners are fucking loaded, in the middle of the DC market

Bennetti “And that ball is Claunched”

I really love what the Sox have done in the first ten rounds. Shultz -- Was in contention to be a top-15 pick before mono Pallette -- Was in contention to be a top-10 pick, some thought maybe even a shot at 1-1, before TJ Cannon -- Was in contention to be a first round pick before mono Sprinkle -- Was in contention to be a first round pick and the top SS taken before some swing changes messed up his offense There is an alternate reality where all four of these guys were off the board before the Sox even picked at 26. As an Alabama alum I might have preferred Prielipp over Shultz, but he fell pretty far so I wonder if there are concerns about his medicals. Either way, hard to complain about the upside in this draft.

Hate to see it.

idgaf about your idgaf

FIFY.

I am with Yoan on this one. (ducks)

Eat it how you like it

The Italian Beef and Sausage combo is a particularly wonderful sandwich.

This entire thread, in all reality, is nothing but mental masturbation. The Sox can't match the farms and won't match the pocket books of other teams. Jerry wouldn't sign off on acquiring Corbin anyway. He wouldn't take Willis for Miggy. What makes you think this is any different?

"Anything but Ketchup" is the other acceptable answer.

The Giants seem to be going after every hitter on our team and that scares the hell out of me. It's like when the Rays ask you about some 20 year old in A ball that isn't in your top 30.

this is the fathom I've been waiting for

I think if Vaughn had an extra year of control, him being the centerpiece for Soto would be much more appealing to the Nat’s. Instead we wasted a year of control to have him play in like three games over the first two weeks of last season.

Too bad the Sox couldn't come up with the extra $200-300k when they almost signed him as an amateur.

True on the 1st part but talk about extending him is pointless and shouldn't factor into the equation of trading for him.

Do we think sox would offer Soto a qualifying offer in 2025?

Sheets has to go. He had that little streak after he was sent down but it didn't take long for pitchers to remember where all the holes are in his swing. The last week he hit .077/.143/.077. They absolutely can not continue to run this f'n guy out there.

whoa whoa whoa whoa...Chappelli is only 20 dude!

Starting next year, I would bet that if you look and compare stats over the next ten years (again starting with the 2023 season on thru 2032) I would bet big bucks that Vaughn has a higher OPS, more RBIs, and a clearly better BA. I am confident that Vaughn is going to be that good.

I don’t understand how you write up the white Sox draft and forget their best pick

From Prospects Live "Standout Draft Classes." https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022/7/19/6-standout-draft-classes

Loidel has been making a mockery of DSL. Below are his stats, along with Luis Robert's DSL stats. Robert (19 years old): 28 games,3 HR, 22 BB, 23 SO, .310, .491, .536 (1.027 OPS) Chapelli (20 years old): 27 games, 8 HR, 19 BB, 15 SO, .375, .483, .729 (1.212 OPS) What can we get from these stats exactly? Obvious, he is too old and way too talented to be in the DSL right now. He's putting up even better stats than Robert was. I saw the updated Baseball America top 30 prospects list had him ranked 28 in the system (what a joke). Is this guy being slept on? Those are big time numbers. Maybe we struck gold and found a stud?

I dunno guys. If we can convince Washington to take Vaughn as the headline (ML Player) and a few of our top prospects, I think I'd be down. Resign Abreu for a few more years so we have 1B covered, Eloy to DH and Soto in LF. It would suck to lose Vaughn but you are getting one of the best LH bats in the game and balances our lineup. I think Dylan Cease has so much value now that it would be impossible to include him in this trade, same with Michael Kopech. I think the Nats will find it tough to find any team willing to part with their premium young ML established pitching in this trade as it is simply too valuable to have on your team. Like, I would sort of consider Cease for Soto straight up, but as an add-on? No thank you. Considering we only got 2 top prospects for Chris Sale I'd be willing to go Vaughn, their choice of top prospect from our minors, and 2 of our top 5-10 prospects. Stretching maybe into a 2nd top 5. And they can keep Patrick Corbin. The Dodgers or Padres will end up trading for him and the White Sox will never be mentioned as serious suitors, however.

Juan Soto is going to be one of the most valuable players ever traded. You aren't getting him for 1 top 100 prospect, maybe a 2nd if you squint hard enough on Colas, and then some interesting but not elite prospects. Basically every contending team in baseball could and would put a better offer on the table than that.

Hahn laughs into the phone, hangs up, then puts a mob hit on the Nats GM.