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Hey, as jim bowden said, you cannot rule Jerry Reinsdorf out

To me, the owner's responsibilities are: 1. Hire the right staff (executives) who will make the right baseball decisions. Get the right leadership in place. 2. Give the baseball staff the resources ($$, namely) and autonomy to make the right decisions. Let the leadership do their jobs. To me JR has failed in these regards. The constant "promote within the family" mentality undercuts objective #1. Objective #2 you can make maybe make an argument for, but the fact is: This team is being out-contract-spent by the Twins The Twins have now committed 9-figure deals to 3 players I think of off the top of my head (Mauer, Buxton, and now Correa), whereas the Sox's largest contract is $75MM JR has shown to insert himself into lower-level decisions to undercut his own executive staff Hiring of a manager Refusing to pay top dollar for pitching after shelling out for Jaime Navarro The results are that, in 41 years of owning the team, he's brought home 1 World Series championship. He's brought home 1 AL pennant. If it weren't for literally lucking into the greatest basketball player who ever played, he'd have 1 championship in 78 combined years of sports ownership.

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3rd. Correa has agreed to a a minimum of $865 million and 21 years worth of contract this winter. I think the max is like 25/$935.

Ouch. This is a kick to the nuts for the Sox. Sox rebuild never stood a chance if JR wasn't going to pony up for any big time FA.

I'm not sure I fully understand the logic behind "wow, the Twins are lucky Correa's medical risk profile turned out to be serious enough to scare multiple other teams away". I guess time will tell. Anyway, that cheater's presence on their roster continues to be another reason to hate the Twins.

He lost $350M in total negotiations and $85M from the Twins. 7 years got lopped off his contract. The physical maybe mostly complete, but something is still clearly wrong.

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Well they were a third place team behind the Sox last year with Correa, so not sure the math really checks out. Both teams of course were far from full strength.

I just don't see Correa becoming an albatross. Especially if the deal improves from 10/$285M, which is sounds like it is. I think this is a bad scenario for the Sox.

I'd much rather see the Twins spending on 3rd or 4th tier players than stars like Correa, personally. The knee is what teams are seemingly concerned about and clearly it's not affected his performance at all to this point of his career.

I know Liam reads through our posts on Soxtalk.. Liam, you got this buddy! We love you, we’re praying for you and we wish you a speedy recovery. The 2023 season is dedicated to you!

I'm sorry, in 2023 are you actually trying to make the argument that Sox fans don't support the organization enough?

The only correct take is "time will tell" Nobody knows how this turns out ultimately. It's all probabilities and risk appetite. The Twins ownership has as much $$ as the Steinbrenners. All drops in a bucket at the end of the day.

Replace Popeye with Marisnick. As of right now, I feel like he’d be favorite for right-handed OF bench option.

As long as we had a seat at the table I’m cool with it.

Why couldn't Manny Machado have a bum ankle?

The only reason the Twins offered $200M a month after offering $280M is because their competition started dropping out. They already knew the medicals. They already know about the ankle. They saved $80M a month later because other teams got scared. What a slam dunk outcome for them.

Just awful for the Sox. Twins aren’t close to being done either.

So now we are a third place team....yaay

Key word….pending physical

should also be a red flag that the marlins signed him.

They say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity, but what they don’t tell you is getting it right one of those times is the definition of a super genius front office.

The playoffs did not exist twenty years before Reinsdorf bought the team. The Tampa Bay Rays didn’t exist until 17 years after he bought the team. They’ve won more playoff games than Reinsdorf.

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FYI, it’s Chas Jizzhome.

Chaz

2nd base is easier to play than SS and by all accounts he was at least a decent defensive shortstop. He also played on the 2B side of the diamond on shifts quite a bit, so it's not like he hasn't fielded a ball on that side of the field before. If he were to play 2B full-time he can learn all the intricacies of the position in ST. The question with Andrus isn't whether or not he can play 2B defensively, it's whether he'll hit better than the 75 wRC+ he put up in the years prior to last season.

LGBTQ right are leftist politics?

Booo, this really isn't the thread for posts like this.

You'd think by my age I would remember to carry the one. Its 31/865 or 35/935.

They did get his prime seasons, however it's unlikely they will get much if any surplus value since it's like 33.3m AAV, so just to break even he would have to average about 5.6m WAR every single year rain or shine just to break even and that assumes arthritis or something else doesn't wipe out any of those seasons.

Yeah honestly that seems like a great deal for the Twins. Those medicals must be really scary.

All she had to do was make me dinner and have my laundry done and let me drink in peace. I have no idea why she left.

Wouldn’t mind the Sox taking a flyer on Julian Merryweather. He was just DFA’d by the Blue Jays.

I had to double check this but Correa is actually 3 months younger than Benintendi, so the Twins are buying his age 28-33 seasons here. Without any particular insight into what this medical status is, he's not comparatively old for a baseball player and he won't be at the end of this deal - the Mets are going to be paying Nimmo for his age 37 season.

Even if the Sox were to sign Elvis, Leury is still the 26th man. It’s Romy that would probably lose his roster spot. No reason to cut Leury right now.

If you're suggesting that adding great players to a team does not guarantee success, well, sure. So the alternative is not doing that because there's a chance it might not work out?

I started hearing this had real legs late last week. Twins did $10M better than the number I was given at 6/$210M, and the annual vesting options can be considered nothing but a huge win for the Twins. Like I said earlier, not ideal situation at all as it pertains to the Sox. Twins much better today than they were yesterday.

The Mets wouldn't guarantee year two. Again, if he is not playing SS and is the DH or 1B in year two or three this is a really bad deal. The fact Cohen wouldn't get a deal done tells me that there is a lot there to be discouraged about.

No opt outs apparently. Twins did well here.

There are very minimal rewards in life if one never takes any risk. Any player can get hurt badly during the first 3 years of any big contract. Correa is still only 28. There is a good chance that this injurt doesn't truly hamper his play until he is well into his 30s.

The medicals have to be something serious. If he is not playing SS you are severely overpaying for him. It's a risky move for the Twins...wonder if the cubs would have jumped back in. I also wonder if other teams asked for the physical results before negotiating.

There are sooo many good RBs in this FA class and Monty may not even be top 5. Fournette was the top back last year and got 3 for 21, with 9 million guaranteed. I have a hard time believing he beats that. I think he's more in the 2 for 14 territory

I think you meant Giants

I feel like Khalil Herbert needs some respect put on his name. Lol. I think he lead the league in yards per carry.

It’s so frustrating to see teams spend money to put finishing touches on their team, like Jays with Belt, while the Sox are too broke to fill giant holes.

We are not here on earth very long and when you hear news like this, it really puts in perspective how trivial sports are in the grand scheme of life. Will be praying for you and your family Liam!