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It's less that he's Christian and more He expressed the opinion that a child molester should be given a chance to earn millions in baseball, when said child molester's family was warning everyone to stay the hell away from him That again That again That again That again He imposes his religion on everyone else in the org His tenure with the Royals has two lucky seasons and that's it

I kind of wish there was video of the anti porn seminar so I could see the faces when he tries to sell a bunch of 20 year old elite athletes on abstinence ?

I’m definitely going to give morosi all of my attention. Because he’s giving me what I want.

Alright, lets turn down the stove on the race/religion stuff for now.

.574 OPS at Charlotte with a 40% K rate. He's ready.

If Mike Shirley gets a vote, he'd go Preston Mattingly. Loves those Indiana preps.

Rick Hahn fired Doug Laumann for Nick Hostetler and then hired Chris Getz right before he got the reins for the rebuild. WHen the farm was about to be the most important thing to his success, he handed control to the worst scouting director of my sox lifetime, and a guy who had virtually zero player dev experience right before player development was about to go through a revolution. He deserves no sympathy because he couldn't choose the manager. The fact that he thought the manager was what the team was missing just shows that he sucks.

Please be any of these instead of Getz/Moore. I beg you.

That catch might've been better than Roberts, Luis was not holding nachos.

Look at these guys' 2019 OPS: Moncada .915 Anderson .865 Jimenez .828 That's not "doomed from the start." Something happened after 2019 that ruined these guys. COVID may have part of the blame for Moncada, but I'll forever be convinced that TLR was the main reason.

The most spectacular stat of the Rick Hahn era is that the longest winning streak was 7 games and it happened once. The 0 and whatever when striking out 14+ batters is another example of how poorly constructed his rosters were. I don't care if he had free reign or not he was abysmal.

I will do it for you then. Complete and utter disaster. We’ve seen this dog and pony show in 2019 with the Kansas City Royals. Apparently the White Sox only can hire outside the organization with that crap ass organization whose ideas on not spending money fit Jerry’s philosophy to a T.

It’s trade scenarios like this that make me wonder why you never got that GM job.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=08/24/2023 https://www.milb.com/scores/all/all/whitesox 3-2 across the org yesterday, so I'll keep the threads going for now. Cannon going for the Barons. Wolkow is in Kannapolis - maybe we get a sneak peek of the baby giant?

Luis Robert is amazing.

But, keep in mind, he can hit .130 from BOTH sides.

It's called the Selig rule, it actually predates the Rooney Rule and it is written with the same setup in mind. The White Sox are required to conduct an actual interview with a minority candidate for head coach and management positions. In 2021, Jerry Reinsdorf personally flouted this rule in order to hire Tony LaRussa. He brought in Willie Harris, one of his former players, for a sham interview with no actual chance of being hired. Willie went along with this, most likely a combination of him needing the experience and him being unwilling to burn a bridge with the White Sox. Reinsdorf was somewhat given a pass for this as he does have a long history of employing and promoting minority candidates for those positions and it may have been a one time thing to hire a friend of his. Hell, Jerry Reinsdorf was instrumental in the creation of the Selig Rule, he's actually pictured in the article I linked above! If, however he wants to make it a habit of flouting the Selig rule and conducting dishonest, sham interviews, we should label it as what it is - a shift towards a racist hiring pattern, and he should get sued by the people he is abusing in that process. While Chris Getz may not have been willing to burn that bridge, right now the NFL is facing a discrimination lawsuit for exactly this same sort of behavior by a person who was willing to do so. https://apnews.com/article/nfl-coach-brian-flores-football-discrimination-lawsuit-5322d8efcb685c9508e703cd40c3a5f1

Until he puts on an "anti porn" seminar for our Minor League players and tries to convert them and or only draft Christian players (which he in fact did in KC). Keep this guy far, far, far away from White Sox Business.

It’s a $2 billion business. If he can no longer handle the duties of running it, he should hand it off to someone who can.

as a Mizzou fan, this DOES feel very much like Matt painter scheduling a flight to mizzou that he never takes because they inked the extension @Quin

@Kalapse can we add bob nightengale to the board banner as a reverse curse

Impressive backhanded barehanded catch by the fan !

I’m ready to be hurt again

Let him use his weird swing first season and then adjust or don't draft him. Taking a bat-first player 1-15 then immediately changing his swing is insane.

Did he smoke a Jeffrey and have to touch the furry wall?

Every time you say this, it makes me think your source is either fucking with you or is a complete moron. The "for whatever reason" is cause s%*# like this happened. He still hit the f*** out of the ball and the Cubs could have traded the Quintana package for something much more. The Cubs got clowned for that trade, continued getting clowned for that trade, and their "revenge" for Eloy and Dylan Cease is Madrigal and Heuer. And according to Kaplan, Ed Howard was "revenge" for the Quintana trade. Take that with a grain of salt though, cause it was probably Kaplan running on copium. If the Cubs were ridiculing Hahn for trading the #7 prospect in baseball (I believe that was his mid-season rank, he became #4 afterwards) and Dylan Cease for Jose Quintana (and I love Quintana), then the Cubs were ahead of the curve on marijuana legalization in the state of Illinois.

I have not seen that. I think he is young, inexperienced calling games, the arm is just average (unlike Lee’s cannon), but he has a pretty quick release, I think he’s been decent at blocking balls and when they do get away, he’s been very quick to pounce on them. He made a great play to save a base in the game last night. Molina is his all-time favorite player, so he works hard on his D. I think he’s going to be above average. When you pair that with his really great baseball IQ, there’s no doubt in my mind that he stays back there.

Law’s piece this morning was beautiful. Just a complete obliteration of the front office.

How about Getz can't be promoted until he drafts and develops a non 1st round pick who can put up a .300 OBP?

As Jon Greenberg wrote today in The Athletic: "Just when you think Reinsdorf has switched things up, he shows you he’s still the same stubborn guy who desperately wants to win but has no idea how to do it."

Kenny Williams, Jerry Manuel, Ozzie Guillen, Rick Renteria, Pedro Grifol, all say "Hi."

Everything Reinsdorf does is a sham. Race has nothing to do with it.

Hahn was GM for 11 years. He made his bed. Zero sympathy from me.

Preston Mattingly seems like a breath of fresh air.

Utimately I think the goal is to make the player look better on internal reports or for potential trades. Sometimes they just like fucking with each other. These geeks can be c***y that way.

GM for 11 years, yet stayed in said messy leadership trio for a decade. At some point that is on you. That stink is your stink too. You’re complicit in this mess no matter how that silver tongue tries to spin it.

Funny I don't foresee any other club falling overthemselves to apoint him GM.

What the hell is up with some people trying to already repaint Hahns legacy? He's the worst GM in franchise history. Period. Stop. Reading other sites, it's like Hahn is some political candidate where all the comments are astroturfed and inauthentic to try and prop him up. It's bizarre.

It's time. I don't agree with the end of the first sentence, agree with the rest of it. I won't be looking for another team if this happens. I will just back off baseball until Jerry is gone and there is hope for the future.

If we are parallel universeing, I’m gonna chose the one where Jerry doesn’t buy the White Sox and run the franchise into the ground for forty years…

This one. Then see if he can convince Espada to come on as manager.

It’s very obvious to me that La Russa is Nightengale’s source and has been for a long time

I feel the discussion starts with Kim Ng as President of Baseball Operations and it goes from there.

Turns out his bias all these years was that the org is terrible

Are going to have to replace the “Fire Rick Hahn” thread with one titled “Die, Jerry, Die”? Seems like that’s the only way this team improves. Worked for the Orioles.

Not going to make excuses for these two--they're highly paid professionals who shouldn't need someone else to keep them in line. That said, they didn't become problems until TLR arrived and there weren't any rules because he was too drunk to enforce any. This is an organizational failure on so many levels. They knew these guys well enough when they were here under Ricky to know that they wouldn't mesh well with TLR. Nobody will ever convince me that it's a coincidence that so many position players' stats got so much worse shortly after TLR arrived. It also begs the question as to whether the Sox did their due diligence on these two before trading for them. Were there red flags that they ignored? Was there a reason the Red Sox and Cubs were so willing to give them up?

Two things 1. Chris Getz the person isn't the problem. Could he be good at the job? Maybe, but like most Jerry Reinsdorf talent searches...there was no process done. There wasn't a search done. They didn't do interviews. They fired Rick and Kenny, and clearly have their replacements in place 2. Answer honestly....would any other team in Major League Baseball have Chris Getz on their interview list for their open GM position? That's a problem to me.

Zero chance that Getz is decent. This is horrible.

He won a World Series title (yay, he does get credit here, this came out of the Greinke deal, serious prospect development, some good trades, and an inventive bullpen use) but that was after a super long rebuild process even for KC (hired in 2006, made the playoffs in 2014), and after breaking that team apart post 2015, he spent the next 7 seasons with the Royals rebuilding and they have a bottom of the league system to show for it despite finishing at the bottom constantly and getting benefits like revenue sharing and extra draft picks. He has also inappropriately allowed his religion to influence things in baseball, including holding an "anti-porn" seminar for his baseball team and very likely allowing it to influence his drafting and player selection, having a much higher fraction of his drafted and signed players seemingly be open and public Christians than could happen by chance alone. This may well have contributed to the extra long and failed rebuilds that cost him his job. Adding in Getz to that, who would be coming from the White Sox's system, with a Royals background, and could be the only guy on Earth who might tolerate things being done with the same lack of professionalism and other problems that existed under Hahn and Williams, it does not look positive or hopeful on paper.