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Bauer Talk is over. Cease it all.

Meanwhile, Smith-Njigba is a 24 year old lefty corner outfielder with good minor league numbers. Worth a shot. Sheets had his chances and has proven himself to be a DH that can’t hit.

Yea why not. Sheets is a DH that can't hit. He's old enough now to where you can't even squint and see him improving enough to ever play a competent corner OF.

I would claim Smith-Njigba and DFA Sheets in a New York yesterday.

Yikes, this makes the Pillar signing look awful. Basically a 1-year, $2 million dollar deal for a guy who can play all three outfield spots and had a .779 OPS last year.

it's definitely amusing that a fatty snuck a gun into a baseball park and shot herself with it. it sounds like a bit from a European sketch comedy show mocking America but reality is often funnier than fiction. I choose to believe this is what happened even if there's conflicting evidence. Also, I was at this game sitting in left field a few sections over from where this happened. didn't hear a dang thing. I find this whole story very strange because I tend to think I would've heard the gunshot, the park wasn't that loud and I wasn't very far away, but maybe fat rolls are the perfect silencer.

So would you rather have Basallo or Mayo as a headliner?

I’m not thrilled about the talent level of most of the acquisitions this winter, but it feels like all these scrap heap additions are being made with professionalism as a major part of their skill set. We had a bad mix last year for whatever reason - lacking leadership and cohesiveness. Hopefully this reset of the clubhouse culture leads to some positive results. Maybe we catch lightning in a bottle with a few and have some trade fodder at the deadline. Or, dare I say, actually compete. Must be spring training if I’m feeling any level of positivity.

If this was several years ago when Wrigley was going through its reno and Ricketts determined Wrigley Field was not salvageable, and came up with the same plan. I’m guessing most of the people who think this a good idea for the state, and several of them don’t live in the state so couldn’t crare less how IL spends its tax dollars, would be up in arms. i am a White Sox fan. I think the site is better than the one they are at now. I go to games and this would be closer. I work in the loop, above Union Station and this would be very convenient during the week. Everything about it is great except who pays. It would be shameful to give JR this money with all the things that need fixing in Chicago alone, and while he already has a viable home that he helped design.

Illinois and Chicago has been printing out millions ($250M this week) for illegal migrants. Where does this money come from? Where is the ROI? There should be no fuss if ~ $150 from every tax payer of the State of IL (12.7 population) contributes to a stadium with a great South Loop ROI (both Sox and Bears).

In the immortal words of John Fox in his bears era, “it’s all bad”

They will build office towers, which are now dinosaurs. Apartment buildings where most new apartment buildings are half full. And they will be high rent, so those renting in Linoiln Park, Streeterville, the Gold Coast, might move there. So those neighborhoods lose out. Build some bars and restaurants. If people go there, they will be spending money they would have spent elsewhere. Will they get a grocery store? That would be nice, but a good portion of the south side is currently a food desert, and apparently there are no public funds to build a few. jerry got a park built for him 35 years ago. To his speciations. Now he can’t make enough money, please build him another one. They offered him development in the GRF parking lots. He said no, He makes money on the parking spaces. The state did build him free of charge a team store and restaurant. And JR gets all the profit. Unfortunately that isn’t enough for JR to compete with the Clevelands , and Kansas Citys , and Detroits and Minnesotas. The economics part is all a play on words. No new tax, yet there is a new debt that has to be paid with tax money. Hotel tax, locals don’t have to worry about it. Except when there are shortflalls, and with bigger debt, potentially bigger shortfalls. Plus the sales tax there goes to paying down Jerry’s park? There goes the argument that the new neighborhood would be a boon for the city and state.Jr and the developer have many billions of dollars. They have the TIF money. Do the rest themselves.

Not proposing new government subsidies to convert. Stabilize taxes, restore adequate public safety. Invest in our neighborhoods. As real estate stabilizes to a proper equilibrium, projects will be viable without the combined $3.5b handouts proposed by Jerry and handed to LY. Make Chicago an attractive place to visit and move to, like it was perceived to be the previous four decades before the government lockdowns and significant increase in crime the past four years.

The pessimist that they've drilled into me starting in 2013 says that the pitching won't benefit that much because the pitchers will have to treat every game as being lost if they give up a single run, so every pitch will have to be treated as a max effort pitch and they'll wear out and make mistakes too quick.

That if they build it, developers will come… is how I read that.

Lady A reference. Nice.

"It's a quarter after one, I'm a little drunk and we need you now"

$11.7 million salary, limited positions, 1 year of control. Teoscar Hernandez only got a $15 million deal ($8 million deferred on top of that). How many prospects would you give up to save $5 or $6 million?

The White Sox are Bryan Shaw's booty call and this is amusing to me.

Ultimately, it probably means nothing in the grand scheme of things but Moustakas can backup 3B and 1B and it ideally means Sheets is not on the opening day roster so Grifail won’t have the opportunity to play him in the outfield.

Even for the mayor, there are higher priorities than protecting CTU and a teacher. Jerry is the one applying the most pressure, but Johnson also greatly benefits after he sweeps it under the rug. Johnson will face questions as to why did the City allow Jerry and/or Terry Savarise to overrule CPD and not halt the game, to ensure the area was secure and also to investigate the crime scene? Jerry's in-house off-duty CPD security staff responsible for lapses with procedures and or the metal detectors would also like this to go away. A criminal charge warrants a public police record which will lead to multiple issues for CPS and the CTU, including does this woman also bring her gun to class each day, since she doesn't appear to have the will and/or sense to not bring guns into gun free zones, and why hasn't CPS begun removal procedures for blatantly violating Chicago residency requirements? The Sox will also be asked whether she is allowed to her to retain season tickets after this incident, and if so why? The corporate media, especially in Chicago and especially in sports rarely rock the boat for any substantial discussions. They solely want to continue to have access so they can hang on to the ever shrinking jobs in that field. Nearly all are stenographers, not journalists. Would say James Fegan is one of the few exceptions, and I'm not sure Jerry will even allow him access to press allowed areas of the stadium.

Every single stadium in those cities were built with their own funds. The Giants paid off their stadium seven years ago, and more than 20 years after San Francisco and the State of California told the Giants to GTFO when they asked for public subsidies. It's an incredible stadium to attend games, light years ahead of what the Sox slapped up, and what they will ultimately slap up if Jerry has any role on any new project. The developers can't even spell Chicago in their renderings. Meanwhile, the Giants also won three World Series while paying off their mortgage. They hire competent baseball people, not Rick Hahn and Tony La Russa, who is still haunting the franchise like Marley's Ghost. https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb/news/the-att-park-mortgage-is-paid-off#:~:text=The Giants%2C unlike most other,to pay for it themselves.

Might as well bring him into camp, some electric athletes in that family. Not like we have anything to lose.

Like what? And you really think the White Sox will attravt all this? Why hasn't it happened yet? There's no market for office towers. Residential is saturated. The 78 isn't the only place hoping for some action. Lincoln Yards can't get anything built, and that's probably a more desirable place to live for people living in higher end units. The plan is all a pipe dream or they would finance it themselves. I wouldn't want to live too close to a ballpark. Too much noise and traffic. Look what's going on in Evanston and Wilmette over something lime 6 concerts a year. Plus is almost guaranteed to cost significantly more than they now claim. Who pays that?

Right and the 78 has 500 million TIF. JR wants 1 billion above that. Good luck.

Amazon creates jobs. How much greater of a head count would the White Sox have in the South Loop. Vs. Bridgeport?

But this deal doesn't do that. Taxpayers are on the hook for shortages. The debt is going to be well higher than before, and there were shortages. And the sales tax in the 78 pays off JRs Park. Those spots will take away sale from businesses not in the 78 where the sales tac theoretically goes to the greater good.

Correct. System is complete garbage but it is what it is, and I'm not going to throw myself in front of the bulldozer because of the city making this type of deal again... especially since for once, I actually like the result!

They said that the return to MLB was at 88%. He didn't get into velocity or PLOF. Reinjury was 17% for traditional no data for the internal brace yet. . Return to MLB after revision was 30%. Ohtani has an uphill battle. This is data from 2000 until now.

Nice. He's great. If our bullpen needs leadership as has been said, then he's it. I've said it before but I can't imagine Kopech crying about pitching with a hang nail around this guy.

Amazon negotiates massive tax breaks to build humongous, ugly, warehouse distribution centers. They don't pay dollars in taxes for decades while generating massive amounts of revenue. Their workforce that populates these facilities also aren't paid enough to survive so the government subsidizes them with forms of welfare. Every major corporation and developer in the country practices these same tactics. Difference for me? At least this is developing an area for multi-purpose, residential and developing the south loop area in a way that truly is beneficial for people and businesses in the area. Most of these other corporations gets these tax breaks to drive out small business and destroy communities. The outrage over a very standard proposal is amazing to me.

Nice. Fan of Rubber Arm Shaw. Will certainly see him on the Southside at some point this year.

I think your view how major projects get done in this country is very lacking. There is literally nothing new or groundbreaking here. Save the outrage for someone else

Chicago refers to the City of Chicago. That was evident from the reference to neighborhoods in his post, along with 'the city' in prior ones. If he meant Chicagoland, he'd have said so.

Can't say this enough that while it's state tax dollars, this is mostly tourist dollars funding this. Could we use the money for something else? I guess, sure.... but it's not as if this state has been putting my dollars to the best use over the past 30 years.

Most new apartment buildings are half empty? What are you guys even talking about? Occupancy in Chicago at any new buildings built in the last 15 years is right around normal rates. Chicago is not empty or barren. Tourism hasn't left --- a I noted 100 times, tourism is right at record highs. Converting office buildings into residential, in many cases, isn't even reasonable or efficient --- it would cost more to convert them because of piping/bathroom/kitchen challenges than it would to just start fresh. This site also is majority residential in the proposal so I'm not sure what the issue is.

Cuz Jerry knows It Takes A Village (Idiot) to pay for all of this and it darn sure ain't going to be Jerry. I don't know the answer to all of this but it's going to take a lot more smoke and mirrors to git er done.

Better to trade vets one year early than one year too late. Rays-ing 101.

Santander's only a FA after this year. Hays and Mullins aren't FAs until after the 2025 season.

that's propaganda meaning, they don't think Getz has the leverage to get what he wants. It doesn't necessarily mean it was out of line. They perceive the Sox and Getz to be too weak to be able to get their asking price. Again, people need to slow it down, and wait for the leverage. What's the hurry? Can't wait to get to our 95 loss marathon?

Exhibit A: parking meter contract.

That's because the Daleys were in charge for most of that time, but they were anything but incompetent.

The reason why you’d do this as a taxpayer isn’t baseball, it’s because a state of the art ballpark would be an anchor tenant to develop this site. Hopefully, with the attitude of the governor and most modern politicians, this is now a case where Reinsdorf telling the government “give me this money or I move my precious team to Nashville” winds up with them quickly saying “You can take I-65 the whole way.” Furthermore, if he’s negotiated with the developers who own this site, told them he could get this done, and pisses off the state by demanding a big fat payout for his precious team, that won’t sit well with any developers for financing in Nashville either. If he wants this to happen, then he needs to go to the government and show them honestly how putting $1.5 billion into things returns $3 billion in value to the city over the next 30 years, and with honest, non-Trump style valuations and reasonable occupation estimates. Showing off reasonable renderings of the entire site and making Chicacago look good is a minor step in this process, but it’s one we’ve seen. Thus, the government break even in the short term and gets the major long term benefit of the site developed. If Reinsdorf can’t demonstrate that, then yeah the state should nicely wave goodbye on moving day. This amount seems high to me, so yeah they better be able to offer a high quality justification better than “baseball is good”.

Just one more thing (Columbo Style). What does she do with her gun(s) on school days, and in particular the day in question. If she does the responsible thing on school days and locks her gun either at home or locked in an out of sight case within her locked car, as permitted under the ILL CC law, why didn’t she feel comfortable doing the same while attending the Sox game? Especially since she knew she would be searched. Or does she carry her gun everywhere, including into the school she teaches, knowing staff isn’t subject to metal detectors searches. Took a chance stashing it on her person knowing her purse would be searched and therefore kept the gun stashed on her person rather than the smarter option of locking in a locked case and vehicle. It’s possible she was off, but since she was attending with co-workers it’s likely she worked and stayed in the city (she works at a North Side CPS school) before the game, vs. driving to the far SW suburbs where she lives, and then fighting rush hour traffic a second time to get to Sox park in time for the game.

I wish someone from the state would tell JR that clearly we aren’t going to be subsidizing $1.7 billion ballparks. He should understand as he doesn’t play on high end free agents.

You're way off base here man. If it was just his opinion, then he would have just said he disagreed. You don't put "..............I disagree" if it isn't alluding to something he heard. And anyways, he came back later in the thread after the fact and said the Orioles circled back to Cease the other day. That's a little more than opinion based.

Of course Hendriks wanted to pitch as soon as he could. He's as competitive of a person as we've had in years, that's just his personality. That doesn't mean he should have been allowed to. His body had just been through a major shock, there's no possible way he could have had a normal offseason training program even if he had tried to, he had already missed a month last year due to his elbow, he had a long-running elbow issue that had to be managed, and when he first came back his velocity was noticeably down already. 29 teams would have at least said "We're taking this slow, we're going to build your arm up gradually, and we want to see your velocity come back to your normal level before we start putting you against big leaguers". Rick Hahn said "I need you to save my competitive bullpen good luck kid."

Of course Elias didn't call. Getz merely texted a pic of Cease with a wink emoji.

https://theathletic.com/5257706/2024/02/13/white-sox-2024-top-prospects-keith-law/?source=user_shared_article Colson Montgomery SS (22) Everyday SS / 3B with 4-5 WAR upside. Edgar Quero C (21) .350 OPS starting catcher. Bryan Ramos 3B (22) Might be 30 HR occasional All Star. Nick Nastrini RHP (24) SP4 + Noah Schultz LHP (20) Tons of risk, SP1 / Top RP Upside Jake Eder LHP (25) Starter potential, probability waning. Jacob Gonzalez SS (22) Never had so many pro scouts with a negative opinion on a 1st rounder. Tanner McDougal RHP (21) 2024 will provide better sense of potential. Jonathan Cannon RHP (23) Probably a RP, understand urge to start him. Grant Taylor RHP (22) I like the upside play here. Jordan Leasure RHP (25) Best pure stuff in system. Needs control. George Wolkow OF (18) Huge power, tons of swing and miss. Prelander Berroa RHP (24) Definitely a big leaguer. Seth Keener RHP (22) Doesn’t know if he can hold up over bigger workload. Jose Rodriguez INF (23) MLB Utility Infielder. Ronny Hernandez C (19) 3-4 years away, could be a valuable starter. Peyton Pallette RHP (23) Hoping for more, 2024 will tell the tale. Christian Oppor LHP (19) Raw, nice arm, assume reliever. Wilfred Veras OF (21) Has to tighten up swing decisions. Dominic Fletcher OF (26) Platoon reserve OF.