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JFC…someone post the old man yells at cloud meme.

Set several pies out on windowsills to cool. I've seen it work in cartoons.

Winning solves all, it's really not a complicated solution. Tickets have gotten to a point where "going on a whim" or just to get out of the house isn't an option for most people, it's a bigger event, because of the cost and people plan for it. Even the historical parks like Wrigley and Fenway were not at capacity last year (Boston was a last place team and were 12th in attendance in 2023.) The White Sox were meanwhile were 24th. In 2006, they were 9th and averaged 36,000+ a game. They averaged 21,000 last year. For the White Sox specifically, it's been proven if you put a good product on the field, people will show up. In any other industry or business, that is the common standard. Make a good product = people use and continue to buy said product. Yet in sports, we're expected to continue to support a franchise that serves up a lackluster product on a very consistent basis. But because we're "fans" it's just what is expected. It's totally backwards, yet you still have some here that like to call Sox fans "impatient"

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The need for this board to attribute all blame to one driver is frustrating. Jerry Reinsdorf has been an absolutely atrocious owner and has certainly killed a lot of fan interest during tenure. However, the current ballpark is also a problem and will never consistently draw causal fans or tourists. The proposed ballpark in the 78 will address the latter and Father Time will address the former soon enough. There is literally a path to becoming an elite sports franchise right in front of our eyes and many here would rather Jerry lose and/or a bunch of tourists not be taxed for using hotels. I hate to break the news to you guys, but even if this deal doesn’t happen, Jerry has already won the life lottery. His kids and their kids and their kids will forever be blessed with unfathomable wealth. Whether he can make another couple hundred million off a stadium deal doesn’t change the calculus. So what does Jerry losing actually accomplish? It puts the franchise in a weaker state for the next owner and causes us Sox fans to lose out on what will likely be a truly incredible ballpark experience. But hey, at least when tourists come to visit their hotel stays will be a bit cheaper…seems like a huge win for us Illinois taxpayers!

I don't think I've walked into a Wendy's and had more than one person ahead of me. Pretty sure if you start charging me an extra buck for my baconnator at 5pm I'll finally have the motivation I need to get my s%*# together and go home and make a salad. Wendy's, you played yourself.

I know you're the king of this but it's apples to oranges. A chain restaurant is successful largely because it fills the role of dependable meal at a fixed price. I'd assume the 80/20 rule applies to fast food, 80% of your biz comes from 20% of your customers. Those are the people getting Wendy's every single day, the loyalists. Those people are coming because they know they are going to get the same item, at the same price, every day. They don't want to see a bus full of HS kids in front of them at the drive through and learn they are gonna be paying 2x for a frosty. Tickets? Tickets are not only not a physical commodity, they are purely a luxury, whereas where you eat lunch is mostly not, at least for 95% of the population.

Apparently, publicly cheating on your wife and knocking up Instagram hootchies is also more important than baseball wins.

I just can't with him man. It's like reading a more polished, just (slightly) more organized Caulfield. Like what sort of brain uses that as the lede? One that thinks differently than I do, that's for sure. How does a letter "escort" anything? Thumbs up to Fegan tho, glad he landed somewhere that will at least provide him a steady check this season.

Bailey Horn throws a scoreless inning, three flyouts and a walk. Two of the flyouts were routine, one was run down in LF foul territory.

Pedro / Tony / Getz Decision Tree: White Sox Organizational Philosophy on who should field a baseball Correct Answer: The player with more MLB service time, regardless of the circumstance. Tie breaker: If service time is the same, the tie goes to whichever player looks more like David Eckstein.

For the umpteenth time, the 78 proposal was dreamed up and hyped by a developer that could not obtain financing or public funding for several past projects there. This things was NOT the WSox or Reinsdorf's idea. Related paid for a laughable rendering of a generic stadium that has absolutely no relationship to historical baseball architecture, including original Comiskey or Wrigley. There is nothing to make it a destination or a special experience like Fenway or even the more modern stadiums, including Three Rivers or Oracle Park. It is a POS. But, Related thnks that smacking a several story high lighted SOX logo on the side, a few whirlybirds with fireworks will be enough to impress some fans. LOL. A view of the Loop? So what, but even that looks like it is blocked by a huge scoreboard, a similar mistake that was made during the remodel of Wrigley where the neighborhood views from inside and outside the park were blocked off with scoreboards. So we have a greedy developer with a laughable plan to build as many buildings as they could draw in as small a space as possible, leaving WSox fans with no useful ingress/egress or provisions for reasonable parking. Oh, and Related wants Billions from IL taxpayers to develop that site? LOL. No matter what you think of Gov. Pritzker, he is right about this one. No public funds for stadiums or funds awarded to private developers to build more unnecessary office space or high end condos. The answer is no.

Actually, I'm pretty sure most of their hosts are Sox fans: Bernstein, Holmes, Mully, and Haugh. You wouldn't know if you didn't/haven't listen for a while. At least they were anyway lol I think they're just like a lot of people here and sick of the JR era.

Blatant racism is more important than baseball wins.

I can't think of many things that are a bigger waste of time right now than a Sox fan listening to sports talk radio on the Score.

A stripper pole in every section and 1000 entertainers working them. Make it the largest gentlemens club in the country and every game will be sold out.

33% of 10 million people is still a base of over 3 million people. Neither Nashville or any other of the mentioned expansion cities has a metro area over 3 million. IMO, a South Loop ballpark would have a lasting positive impact on the Sox market share in Chicago. Right now, only diehards are bothering to go to 35th St. even if it's only a few el stops away. I also wonder if it's easier for fans who live thousands of miles away to say they don't care if the Sox move to another city. I live in Chicagoland and I DO CARE if the Sox move out of town (and I don't think they're going to move).

Just Win, Baby.....hey, I'm serious, stop laughing Ok, never mind....more Dog Days???

I think it's safe to assume, if the Sox had a better owner, the division on the new stadium would be non-existent.

First 20,000 get a Star Wars Storm Trooper action figure.

The highlight of last season was a fan getting shot by a mystery bullet in the stadium. I think we're allowed to direct some bitterness at an owner, front office and manager that shovel more s%*# than the poopsmith from Homestar Runner.

Circa is at 62.5

If you had to bet, I'd take the Caesars 63 over -110 to save you a push with 63 wins. I was confident before February they should lock in 67-70 wins this season. With what has gone on the past few weeks, I'm less confident. I wouldn't bet under. It could happen, but even the worst teams typically win over 60, and there isn't a big margin to work with. if they go with a bunch of veterans (Moustakas, Pillar) over the mid 20s prospects, I hope they finish below the 1962 Mets futility. Jerry, Getz, Pedro and possibly Tony would deserve what they wrought/sowed, though Jerry would use it and the weak attendance to argue he deserves a few billion more than the two billion he has already demanded (not including the several billion in future interest).

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I watched most of the game, there's just absolutely no juice on this squad. There's some decent players but there's not any sort of exciting talent if Colson isn't playing. The guys that are decent are known quantities , the unknown quantities are either journeyman or never will bes. Remember some of those late 90s Sox teams that gave up 8 runs most nights but scored 7? Those teams were sorta fun bad. This one I think is just gonna be bad bad.

Sox added on a pair with the help of KC's defense struggling, Colas and Sosa knocked in one each. Popeye made a couple of nice defensive plays at 2B to help wrap things up, though Solesky still gave up a run to lose the shutout. Sox win, 6-1. Nice to see them hit 4 XBH (doubles from Benny and Shewmake, 2HR from Sheets), and give up none.

The TLR emoji is close enough

I listened to him on the Sox on 35th podcast recently and he seems like a nice guy who works hard. I hope he's actually figured something out, he could potentially be a useful player.

Who had 2 Sheets homers and a stolen base on their bingo card?

Sheets goes yard again.

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Max looked pretty slow to get out of his crouch there, that said, would have been a close play even if he got to it, he couldn't have rolled it out there much better.

Up early against the Mariners thanks to a Nicky Lopez leadoff double (his second XBH of ST), knocked in by Eloy who stays hot. There's also a split squad home game vs. the Royals, available via Royals audio feed. Montoyo is managing with Thome as bench coach. Woodford started that one with a perfect first. LRJ also got his first hit of spring.

Sure, but their overreaction to a few things has been ridiculous.

Now I'm hungry. I have a big greek church near my office. in the summer they do a "taste of greece" thing and for like $20 in tickets you can try a few things. I used most of my tickets on a lamb sandwich. the greeks know their lamb, that's for sure.

"We're celebrating ethnic yts day at the park, today is Dutch heritage night, free tulip with every ticket! Next week is Greek night featuring $5 Gyros!"

Just market Maldanado and DeJong hard. They, and Moustakis are playing for their careers much like guys like Rollins and Lawrie and Austin Jackson were years ago. People are sleeping. These guys are going to be great.

Hear me out here, you know how nobody really uses physical media anymore? What if they had something like "CD and DVD demolition night"? Basically you'd encourage fans to bring in some old CDs and DVDs and then (this is where it gets good) blow them at some point during the game, maybe around the 7th inning or so after the fans have had a little time to get good and lathered up? You could have someone collect the things earlier and then blow them up on the field. It's bound to draw a good crowd.

TWTW should be measured in "dadgummits."

plus do we think they even still have any old, marginal prospects to trade after we raided that cupboard this weekend?

Could be and that would be nice, they have to build a ballpark and surrounding area that is a destination.

Assuming the South Loop stadium is built, this time build a stadium that people like. I've read a number of times that 20% of Cubs attendance comes from out of state, The White Sox don't draw that many fans from out of state. The new stadium will attract alot of fans from out of state if the stadium is nice. They will easily draw 2 million fans a year in the South Loop if they build a nice stadium.

It was Mayor Harold Washington who told that staying at 35th and Shields was part of a stadium deal. The current site was foisted upon them. They did agree, but can we please put to rest the BS narrative of greedy owners rejecting this sweetheart deal that was offered them on a silver platter.

Jerry could have had Camden Yards in the 78 35 years ago. He rejected both the location and the stadium design. This is his f*** up. It's up to him to fix it.

I know Spring Training is fluffy than marshmallows, but his interview with Vinnie Duber was hysterical. Time-stamped for your listening pleasure (misery)? On DeJong: "Has done it before. He didn't lose it. It's still there." - Hit .207 last year, was released by 2 teams. Hit under .200 in 2021 and 2022. On Lopez: "He hit .300 in the American League a few years ago." - So did former batting champion Tim Anderson! Lopez is a career .249 hitter, so 2021 is currently an outlier. On Maldonado: "I don't feel that he's a .180 hitter." - Technically correct since 2019. He's been a .191 hitter in five seasons since then. Grifol is going to be like TLR with Leury Garcia with us, but with 3 terrible hitters.

The taxpayers don’t benefit. The Sox benefit. The governor remarked “no money to sports teams unless a $ benefit is realized by the taxpayers” to paraphrase. How can the state justify a sweet deal for Jerry (again) so he can pad his pockets and the pockets of his fellow team owners.

Mayor Washington died 8 months before the deal was made and the General Assembly passed the package to create the ISFA.

Is there a blog or message board Reinsdorf reads where he might actually see the vitriol?