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This is just so Soto will be able to take a break vs tough lefties.

I simply don't find the negative banter and back-and-forth personal attacks here all that interesting. I check in because, in fairness, this site posts White Sox news/information more quickly than anywhere else.

I’m calling the Sox and buying season tickets. This guy checks all the boxes. No power, doesn’t get on base, is over 30. Just what the team needs.

I don't mind the negativity when it's warranted. And it surely is with the state of the organization. It just has come to dominate and overwhelm any value added conversation here. One can craft nuanced posts picking apart why the Vargas trade sucked. See Timmy U for instance on warning signs, red flags, and prospect evaulation. Compare that to someone like Whitesox2023 whose posts consist of "Lol Getz Sucks!" or "Coulda had Keaschall!" Dude could be replaced with a bot or a soundboard and no one could tell the difference. There are so many posters here whose takes I enjoy reading. It's a shame those posts often drown amongst so much s%*# posting. But yea. I suppose I'm whining about the whiners. I guess I should accept it will be this way until/if the organization manages to right the ship.

Why is this thread 3 pages

I don’t disagree. There’s no need to celebrate this move, and there’s no need to complain about it.

I didn't even have to see who this post was from to know who this post was from.

Agreed. I post more often than I should but still a small fraction of what the regulars do. I would post more if 90% of my posts weren’t met with a negative reply. Even suggesting realistic trade proposals are met with negativity cuz Getz, etc. It gets old.

Just in general, it's still odd to be signing guys like this to contracts that are: 1. Big league contracts rather than minor league deals with spring training invites 2. Contracts so early in the offseason. This uses up one of those 40 man roster spots if he's actually signed to a big league contract, before the Rule 5 draft happens.

Take the opportunity and draft the best offensive linemen available with your first two picks at least.

I'm gonna put $5 on him being DFA'd by June.

Not the greatest tagline but an improvement: Your 2025 Chicago White Sox.....they seem serviceable and we've still got those great shakes!!!

Before last season, he was very good in his platoon role.

dumpster diving before the dumpster is even full. The Getz effect!

Unless my information is wrong, teams teams are required to place certain Rule-5 eligible players on their 40-man rosters in order to prevent other teams from prying them away in December's Rule 5 Draft. With the unofficial signing of outfielder Austin Slater to a major league deal, the White Sox will have 37 players on their 40-man roster. There's certainly enough chaff in that roster (Chuckie Robinson, Corey Julks, Jesse Scholtens and Justin Anderson to name a few) that could be removed, so by all means, the Sox could find a way to protect more than three players from Rule 5 selection. Below is who I believe are the twelve options (in order) the team could most consider for this roster protection. 1, Colson Montgomery (22) -- SS (Charlotte). Montgomery is the one no-brainer. Yes, he struggled for most of 2024 (.214/.329/.381), but still managed to produce 42 extra-base hits and 69 walks, Surprisingly, he fared better against southpaws (.248/.327/.376) than righties (.201/.329/.384). He likely put too much pressure on himself to produce numbers, but he was still playing against pitchers five years older than he on average. In September he slashed a more respectable .264/.357/.458 with 4 homers. Just as importantly, he lit up the scoreboard for the Glendale Desert Dogs in 45 at-bats by slugging .313/.511/.656 with three homers, four stolen bases and 10 walks while fanning just six times. Things may be starting to click for the 6'3" youngster, and with a hot spring, he just may be able to crack the Opening Day roster. In the meantime, he ranks 3rd among Sox prospects according to MLB Pipeline and is a borderline Top-100 overall prospect. 2. Wilfred Veras (22) -- OF (Birmingham). Like Montgomery, Veras' numbers slumped when compared to an outstanding 2023. Also like Montgomery, his numbers improved late in the year as well. With Birmingham, he slashed .267/.319/.424 in a tough ballpark to hit with 44 extra-base hits (16 homers), 34 walks (as opposed to 140 strikeouts) and 25 stolen bases. Not considered by many scouts to be a speed demon, he's been highly productive on the bases with 49 stolen bases in 2023. His plate discipline vastly improved in the season's last two months as he produced 18 walks as opposed to 37 punchouts (as opposed to 16 walks and 103 strikeouts the previous four months). This improvement resulted in a combined .297/.376/.465 slash line. He currently ranks 25th among Sox prospects per MLB Pipeline, and should begin next year in Charlotte. He could be the long-term answer in right field if he continues his recent improvements. 3, Juan Carela (22) -- RHSP (Birmingham). Falling just below Veras' MLB Sox prospect ranking at 26th, Carela produced nearly identical results with Winston-Salem and Birmingham. For the year, he produced a respectable 3.71 ERA and 1.24 WHIP in 23 starts (106.2 innings), as he surrendered just 87 hits and 45 walks while fanning 114. Like Veras, I expect Carela to begin next year with Charlotte. He's pitched splendidly for the Sox since they acquired him in 2023's trade deadline from the Yankees for reliever Keynan Middleton. Righties hit just .205 versus his offerings last year, as opposed to a .253 average by lefties. If he can improve his change-up against lefties, he could become a solid rotation piece in 2026 for the Sox. 4. Trey McGough (26) LHRP (Charlotte). Acquired in last year's tradeline from Baltimore in the Eloy Jimenez deal, he produced an outstanding 1.98 ERA and 1.02 WHIP over 81.2 innings by surrendering just 54 hits (.188 OBA) and 29 walks while striking out 88. What's more, his ERA has never finished above 3.86 in his five-year minor league career. His numbers versus lefties and righties were nearly identical, Certainly, the Sox were aware of his pending Rule 5 status for this year when making the Jimenez deal, so it seems likely that McGough will be the fourth option for Rule-5 protection. 5. Anthony Hoopii-Tuionetoa (24) -- RHRP (Charlotte). This is where things start becoming less clear regarding who'll be protected. At the time the White Sox acquired him from the Rangers in the May 8 trade for outfielder Robbie Grossman, the native Hawaiian had a 0.00 ERA and 0.89 WHIP in 10 relief outings. He did post a respectable 3.24 ERA and 1.08 WHIP for Birmingham in 25 outings. However, in Hoopii-Tuionetoa's nine appearances with Charlotte, he got lit up with a 13.50 ERA and 1.85 WHIP. He could have been fatigued toward the season, r the small ballpark in Charlotte could've caused problems. Hopefully, this is just an aberration as he's expected to be a member on the Sox Opening Day roster with a solid Spring Training. 6. Garrett Schoenle (26) -- LHRP (Birmingham). Schoenle followed up his worst professional season in 2023 (6.22 ERA, 1.57 WHIP) with his best one in 2024 (1.67 ERA/0.94 WHIP). While last year was primarily spent in the rotation, this year was spent mostly in the bullpen. In 70 innings, he allowed just 43 hits (.171 OBA) and 23 walks while fanning 88. Schoenle was Mr. Consistency, as no monthly ERA was above 2.25; also lefties hit .170 versus his offerings while righties hit .171 against him. Also, his numbers in the bullpen and his spot-starter roles were nearly identical. It would be easy to understand if the Sox selected Schoenle over Hoopii-Tuionetoa based upon those impressive results. 7. Adisyn Coffey (24) -- RHRP (Charlotte). Coffey was considered simply an under-slot 3rd Round selection from Wabash Valley Community College in the 2020 Draft, as his selection enabled the team to spend over-slot money on prep star Jared Kelley. However, Coffey has proven thus far to be the better of the two pitchers, as he combined with Birmingham and Charlotte for a 2.04 ERA and 1.22 WHIP over 35 relief appearances, In that span totaling over 52 innings, he allowed just 37 hits and 22 walks while striking out 55. Lefties hit just .160 against his offerings, and like Schoenle, surrendered just one homer for all of 2024. He's certainly in the mix with Hoopii-Tuionetoa and Schoenle for Rule 5 protection. 8. Caleb Freeman (26) -- RHRP (Birmingham). Selected in 2019's 15th round from Texas Tech, Freeman had the reputation of wildness which he hasn't totally shaken. He did post a respectable 3.92 ERA and 1.35 WHIP for Birmingham in 2024, as he allowed 33 hits (.208 OBA) and 26 walks while striking out 56. He also surrendered 5 homers in his 43 2/3 innings, which is similar to his career average. Mostly, his inconsistency is what brings him below the relievers already mentioned. His monthly ERA numbers were 3.00, 6.48, 0.00, 9.82, 1.04 and 4.91. Of course, ERA stats don't tell the whole picture, but in Freeman's case, it could explain why he hasn't received the promotion to Charlotte yet. 9. Jerold Rosado (22) -- RHRP (Winston-Salem). Rosada was acquired in last year's trade deadline from the Royals for infielder Paul DeJong, and he continued to pitch quite well. He combined with the Royal and Sox systems for an outstanding 2.11 ERA and 1.03 WHIP in 55 1/3 innings, as he allowed just 42 hits (.214 OBA), 15 walks and 68 strikeouts. Lefties hit .224 against him, while righties fared marginally worse at .207. I'd have Rosado higher on this list, but since he's only had 10 appearances beyond Low-A ball, the odds of him being selected in the Rule 5 Draft won't be that high. 10. Adam Hackenberg (25) -- C (Charlotte). Hackenberg's offensive numbers (.210/.315/.253) in 2024 were a significant drop-off from his 2023 numbers with Birmingham and Charlotte, but he's here due to the scarcity of the catcher position which is usually in demand (along with pitching) in Rule 5 drafts. He's considered an asset behind the plate, so despite his numbers, it won't be a shock to see him selected. 11. Andrew Dalquist (24) -- RHRP (Birmingham). The former 3rd-round selection has had a disappointing minor league career to date, although he resurrected it significantly after a conversion from the rotation to begin this year's campaign. He posted a 3.06 ERA and 1.47 WHIP in 47 innings for Birmingham, as he surrendered just 36 hits (.217 OBA) while fanning a solid 52. However, he got himself in trouble walking 27. In the past, he's given up lots of long balls; however, he surrendered just two in the friendly environs of Birmingham. His stock will escalate further if he can throw strikes, while still limiting the long ball, in the much more perilous Charlotte atmosphere. 12. DJ Gladney (23) -- OF (Birmingham). I nearly went with fellow Baron outfielder Terrell Tatum here, but since Gladney participated in this year's AFL, he deserves a shoutout here. He enjoyed his best minor league campaign with Winston-Salem and Birmingham in 2024 by slashing .246/.303/.450 -with 20 doubles and 16 homers spanning 353 at-bats. He also stole eight bases without getting caught. His strikeout rate has vastly improved since his 2023 effort when he struck out 173 times in 464 at-bats. I'll be fun to see how this local product builds upon his success in Charlotte next year, but in the meantime, the odds of Gladney's being selected in the Rule 5 draft is fairly small despite his overall improvements.

Erick Fedde was signed on December 14th of last year. This was more than a week after the winter meetings, after the rule 5 draft. I would like to know who thought this was too early.

Getz jumping the market again on that scorching hot commodity of former fringe guys coming off terrible years at the end of their careers.

He painted himself into a corner immediately. Said he would make the same call again, then later said “well yea I would have liked to get a little closer” dude what do you have to lose anymore? Let it rip. Riverboat Ron got like 2 extra seasons because he did that lol

@ron883 is hoping the Sox are the team that brings him back.

Dead Man walking press conferences on Mondays are fun

I'd believe this was a guy selling italian sandwiches at the park before learning that he's a player on the 40-man.

I hope this dude is a fraction as good as some of you are telling us he is. Though I can't help but thinking if he really was that good, why did Baltimore just fire him.

The bad times are much more frequent than the good times and Jerry is to blame for that. Not Sox fans posting on a message board.

I always get a kick out of people complaining about others complaining. The sire always sucks but you always read it. Makes no sense.

Don't sell this group short. Even when the team was good, Soxtalk sucked.

I’ve been to Dodger Stadium, the edifice itself is no better than GRF, it’s the setting itself that makes its sort of cool sitting in Chavez Ravine and with the grandstand actually built into the side of a mountain. It’s a nightmare getting out of the parking lot and there is absolutely nothing around the place.

Like bees to honey...with the added bonus of a political twist.

But would Slater agree to a minor league deal this early in the offseason? With the White Sox? No chance. The sad and unfortunate state of our team right now is if we like a player like this as a bench piece, we might have to strike this early.

MLB deal.

Oh ok so it was during the winter meetings. Who said that was early?

I don’t think Gladney even needs to be protected because I don’t think he gets taken with his strikeout rate. He wouldn’t last on a roster long enough next season to stay with that team.

Think it was more about work ethic than actually being a vocal type leader.

The time that Lopez felt something in his elbow, Renteria went out to the mound, Lopez said everything was fine so Renteria went back to the dugout, Abreu walked to the mound, asked him what was up, got a different answer, and Abreu called the trainer back out and Lopez wound up with a short preventative 15 day IL trip was a pretty good day of out-managing the coach for Abreu.

I think this is what @ChiSox59 is referring to but hopefully he can correct me if I’m wrong… https://www.purplerow.com/2009/2/19/762532/mlb-transactions-part-thre

I still have never seen any evidence that he was some sort of team leader.

I think the key for Caleb is keep it moving. I don’t think Waldron was thinking far ahead enough and the whole process was herky jerky. He pointed out that Brown had the play in his ear immediately and it gave him time to think about it more

More cannon fodder from Getz

In reality that outcome wasn’t bad - players bounced back and played better - draft pick will be better because of it too. At this point it’s all about development

It screams the guy we just hired as Hitting boss recommended him so we signed him.

Oops, you're right. My bad

Agreed on that. This is why people who say Poles should be fired because "he hasn't done anything other than one lucky trade" are way off base. He fixed their huge cap issues, he ingested some talent into the team including a franchise QB. He does have some flaws which he needs to shore up, but the most frustrating thing is Flus is holding the team back. Agreed, but not everyone has failed. Flus has. Warren has failed when it comes to the stadium stuff. This is the way. This team needs 3 new, impactful OL. I do not want to see Tevin Jenkins on this team. I don't want to see Ryan Bates, who somehow is less available than Tevin being a component to this line. I don't want to see Coleman Shelton. If you need to move Darnell Wright inside, then do it. Being cute didn't work, so address it properly. I would as well, but you're right. In the end, Eberflus is not head coaching material. Too many mistakes by the actual coach that he blames on execution. Time management has been awful (yesterday aside). Using timeouts, Hiring coaches, holding them accountable, holding players accountable, holding himself accountable, etc. He's just not a guy who can run the whole shop.

Who?

Maybe trade Vaughn for him or something.

IMO, the most frustrating part of this is I don’t believe that’s true, it’s a rare case where the coaching really has made a major, major impact on things. I think this is a talented roster, albeit with some holes, but with a good coaching staff, this team has at least 7 wins right now

Fuller has talked a lot about being a place for bounceback candidates in Baltimore and I'm sure he'd like to do the same here. Slater was pretty decent for a years in San Francisco.

I mean, just keep the F in his name and Eberfloser is a gift-wrapped nicknamed.

I’m excited to see the impact he has on players like Wolkow, Perez, Bonemer, Zavala, and Albertus.

Idk. Don't get me wrong, nothing Getz has done with the roster has been great. The Cease deal was a C+ at best. They should have done better. But it wasn't a complete disaster. I hate(d) the Fedde/Kopech deal and always felt it was a good prospect short, but you have to also consider the fact that he a) signed Fedde to begin with; b) while Vargas SSS w/ Sox was an unmitigated disaster, he's probably not that bad, and you can make a decent argument that he was the highest pedigree prospect moved at the deadline; and c) Fedde probably just didn't have much value. I also think Albertus and Perez are pretty interesting. Nothing else he has done is really that terrible. He's obviously overhauling the way the org is structured which is the most important long term, imo. Now, if Getz does any of those disgustingly terrible ideas Harold claims are on the table, i'll change my tune.

I think the point is that you're not going to get highly touted prospects/MLB players for slot money. More lottery ticket type guys who can blow up and would you be a huge win or would fizzle out and you would forget they even had him.