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I am so sick of the payroll disparity in baseball. I’m so sick of JR too.

If noone sees it.....did you really give up a 420 foot blast??

Crap. Him and Witt will put up a combined 9.1 WAR!

I guess I'd rather just roll with the young guys, or sign someone better that might actually have trade value. Just another guy that best case scenario we're getting someone else's junk. But at $3.5M + $1.5M buyout, its whatever.

Montgomery shouldn't sniff the big league roster on Opening Day. To start, I think the infield will be Rojas 3B, Sosa SS, Meidroth 2B, AV 1B, Vargas DH (with some 3B and 1B starts), and Baldwin mixing in at SS, 2B a few times a week, maybe a little 3B too.

Sure, but someone with a new title did it, so it's all good.

So many lists. It like Caulfield died and went to heaven.

If the White Sox were where we hoped they would be, and where they told us they would be right now, there would probably be a decent chance this guy would be interested. But why, when he could go wherever he wanted for basically the same money, would he choose a team who just set the record for losses in a season, and don't seem to have a roster that can't flirt with breaking that record? The same with Kim. Why would he sign with the White Sox unless they are willing to pay him significantly more, which we know they are not, than other teams who at least try to win?

They didn’t spend their way when they were in their own perceived window of contention when both Bryce Harper and Manny Machado were available.

No, don't do that. Just play the fringe guys we have FFS.

Not exactly an exciting list, but you probably just listed like 40% of opening day bullpen. Berroa was a big part of the Santos return, and is actually pretty interesting. Marinaccio was recently claimed and has a 3.22 big league ERA in over 120 innings; he might be the closer. Varland was recently claimed too, and was actually pretty good out of the pen end of last season. I don't care much for Ellard, and he's probably who they cut for Perez, but the org liked him enough to give him 25 big league appearances last season, and was serviceable. The point isn't really that these guys are not cuttable, but 3/4 guys you listed are literally guys this regime brought in very recently.

Today they are quality depth that will give us a huge improvement. Tomorrow they are just guys who we upgraded for and cut.

I also just don't like filling the roster with mid-30s fluff that isn't going to return much, not because they couldn't be useful, but because they take super valuable 40 man spots. If there is one advantage the Sox have over the league is their spot on the waiver order. Tough to take advantage of that if your 40 man is full of dudes you've recently acquired and prospects.

I imagine this will be a tough Sporcle answer down the road for Sox Opening Day Starters.

They need some veteran SP to eat innings. The young guys will get plenty of innings anyway.

1 for $5M for a veteran to eat innings and potentially flip is a solid deal.

*Getz, looking over his shoulder at the marlins* ”must….keep….OD payroll above theirs”

So much winning, it is hard to keep score at home.

And in true White Sox fashion, they acquire him at the ripe young age of 33.

So are the posters who thought that the Sox are loaded with starting pitching and need them to get innings upset by this addition by Getz?

Sox are basically a minor league team competing in the majors for 2025

This is extremely frustrating. I was a Pirates fan in the late 80s and early 90s, having grown up near Pittsburgh. The strike in 1994, along with the Pirates dismantling their team for years, made me lose interest in baseball. I moved to the area in 1999, and my wife was a Sox fan, so I adopted them as my team. Twenty years later, we've gone full circle, and my team refuses to spend money and put a good team on the field. I don't blame teams that spend. It's greedy owners like JR that are killing the sport. MLB needs a salary floor before a salary cap.

I think this is likely to be the single most profitable year of Jerry Reinsdorf's life.

So that’s the primary expense line item of the income statement, the projected payroll. What are the primary revenue sides of the statement? Forget attendance for the moment - what is TV/radio revenue? What is advertising revenue? Shared MLB TV revenues? And oh, going back to the expense side of the equation - “Rate Field” rent? What is it these days? You can’t look at one line item on the financials in a vacuum and try to assess its reasonableness. You need to see the whole picture. And with the present owner, the whole picture suggests he’ll continue to show profits next year with his inferior product and likely at a higher profit margin than most of his peers. This, in a major market, and entering his 45th year of ownership. Wow. Just a big, ‘ol wow at this point.

I don't know if it should get it's own thread in the FutureSox heading. Prospects1500 does a top 50 prospects list of White Sox, writes a paragraph each on the top ten. https://www.prospects1500.com/top-50-lists/chiacgo-white-sox-top-50-prospects-2025/

Time to bring relegation to MLB

I'm not against because why not? But Sosa looks like a complete deer in the headlights at 2B. Couldn't imagine that at a lot more intensive position. Hopefully he gets over his nerves or whatever it is that have been going on for 3 years now.

Prelander Berrora was the main piece we got back in the Gregory Santos traded…he’s a legitimate prospect with tremendous stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised or shocked. I just think it's a short sighted and stupid decision and he hasn't remotely earned it.

Rodon was coming off such a bad stretch of injuries/ineffectiveness that pretty much nobody else was willing to guarantee him a starting rotation spot in all likelihood. Of course, at that point, and coming off the 2020 postseason, some were potentially looking at him as a "high leverage" reliever as well.

I honestly wasn't thinking of the cheap signings, I was thinking of the big ones that they would need to get room for Sasaki

That's very generous of them...but not in the best interests of the franchise. Of course the Kimbrel QO led to the Pollock disaster, which led to the Benintendi disaster. One mistake on top of another...compounded.

Not to mention, Colson was ass in AAA last year. He hasn't earned it. I doubt he's on the Opening Day roster. White Sox will White Sox, but I don't see it with this one.

I remain convinced that ron marinaccio is a made-up person.

I'm cool with this. I also had to look up who Nick Maton was and learned he's a local boy (as in Illinois) with the nickname "Wolfie." If he resurrects my profile picture from the dead, I'm on board.

Well, according to KW and JR, to finish second or third and put lots of homers on the board/exploding fireworks. They cut the fireworks costs pretty considerably the last two years due to their inept offenses.

I think analytics and efficiency maximization have hurt baseball and basketball and it's not because of any age old tropes. It's because they've fundamentally changed how the game is played and evaluated in ways that have harmed uniqueness and diversities of skill sets. Sometimes the most efficient way is more boring and less entertaining and this is entertainment after all.

I just looked at the Sox 40 man because I was/am sure there are plenty of guys you can DFA, and was shocked at how many guys I've straight up never heard of, some that actually got time with the Sox last year. Fraser Ellard? Prelander Berrora? Ron Marinaccio? Gus Varland? Man, it's a rough list lol

It's not even close. Prospect crushes die hard.

The wild thing are the Marlins are literally the only team in baseball who has spent $0 on a free agent this year. Imagine being outspend by the 121 loss White Sox.

Since the email came from the Sox, it didn't even make it to the Spam folder. It went to the Great Value Canned Meat folder.

I don’t disagree with the last part at all, it was a bad look. I was listening to the score and someone brought up(I think Rahimi) that Warren was brought in to build a stadium and preside over the business side, and Poles was supposed to be running the football side. Now Warren is forced to do both, which is where a lot of the muddied waters are lying. But, sadly, this brings us right back to my previous point that last offseason they had one task and that was to support Caleb and they blew it by retaining Flus and doubled down on blowing it by hiring Waldron. It’s hard for me to sit here and believe that Poles should be picking the next guys but it is what it is now and all I can do is hope that he learned from his previous mistakes and will make the correct hires during this cycle.

Seriously - what could have a presentation by this team currently owned by Jerry Reinsdorf with his reputation have hoped to accomplish? This is yet another example of why this franchise is in so desperate need of a change in ownership after four and a half horrific decades of abject failure. We are a major market team that isn’t taken seriously in situations like this.

Fangraphs' Payroll Resource has it as: 25. Cleveland $97 million 26. Pirates $79 million 27. White Sox $78 million 28. TB Rays $76 million 29. Athletics $70 million 30. Marlins $66 million But imagine if we can dump Benintendi and Robert...??? Bonus savings extravaganza. Vaughn at $6.4 million would be 3rd on the team for highest salaries. The highest guaranteed salaries after that are $1.95 million for Tauchman and $1.75 million for Slater at the current moment.

Nope. Just went through a Top 30 prospect list from back then and the only starters listed other than Kopech, Cease et al are Alec Hansen and Konnor Pilkington. I'll admit there was 1 year of Hansen hype, but Pilkington didn't rise to the level of even a Gowens, let alone Iriarte, Nastrini, Bush, Batista, etc etc etc. Sox development may still suck, but they've got more depth than they did back then.

Ok, I guess it'd be funny if Roki just never responded to the email.

I hope someone sends that to Jeremy Haber. LOL

Must be what Cincinnati needed to get Luis Robert or something

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