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Great, more of this "global warming" Chinese hoax bullshit. Sullivan is trying to push the hoax even more. I just watched a Joe Rogan Experience podcast and Joe actually said we are in a global cooling pattern when you look at the big picture. We don't need a retractable roof. It's going to get cooler here based on what Joe said.

Disagree with pretty much everything in this post. How were they good at pitching overhauls previously? Show some receipts and tangible actions that suggest they were even close to league average in this area prior to Bannister and the various foundational overhauls they have implemented since Getz took over. Did you even watch the video? One of the first things that Bannister mentions is how they had to completely revamp the R&D department because everything was broken. Data itself wasn’t clean and definitions weren’t aligned upon, it wasn’t it in the cloud and easily accessible, and it wasn’t be used throughout all groups as part of the broader decision-making process. Fixing these issues is the definition of addressing low hanging fruit and helps not only hitting, but hitting & fielding as well. Lastly, saying all these foundational improvements are just PR fluff because they haven’t immediately impacted our W-L record is silly. No doubt there is a PR angle to touting one’s horn, but fixing our foundations is the single most important thing needed to right this ship in the long-run and it’s all we should really care about at the moment other than Jerry’s reign of terror ending. But if you’re actually paying attention, you can see signs of better process baring some fruit. Again, it won’t immediately change our W-L record because we are basically starting from zero, but that doesn’t mean it’s not vitally important or actually working.

Come on. This isn't on the White Sox.

On pace for 118 losses after setting record last year. Show me White Sox.

I beg to differ. The douchebag should be forced to attend and watch every inning of every White Sox game home and away for the rest of the year.

The JR owned White Sox are a terrible organization but how can you blame the organization for what that cretin said.

Some people choose to be miserable. It applied to my ex girlfriend, it applies to Soxtalk. I don’t get it. People on here have been clamoring for the Sox to tear it down, and they are. People on here have been clamoring for them to build out their own analytic staff, and they are. People have been clamoring for them to hire people from outside the org, and they are. And you’re still unhappy. I don’t understand it.

Eventually you have to throw him in the deepend if you want a chance at him learning the game.

Another HR for Baldwin. Hard to justify keeping throwing at bats away on Rojas, but it’s a huge jump from AAA.

Should be a lifetime ban, point blank. Jackass.

2 homers today. If he can learn to take a few walks… .277 AVG / .298 OBP / .416 SLG / .714 OPS

He heard you, up to .714

He did, and the scoreboard put something nice up for him

Apples and oranges

Bum of all bums. Right up there with Eloy and Moncada. No one could ever depend on those three walking injuries.

Ah yes, staying looking down your nose at everyone else. Never change, Tray

The Sox have sold this narrative before. I'm not miserable, I'm simply realistic. They released a ton of "modernize the org" articles a few years back. The man thanks Jerry for everything 5 minutes into the interview. I'm happy to break down why the things discussed in the video aren't ground breaking. I have never wanted the Sox to become the Pittsburgh Pirates and why you think anything that has happened in the past three years is positive is beyond me. I never clamored for the Sox to become the cheapest organization in pro sports. I certainly didn't clamor for them to act the way they have been. You're watching a fluff podcast put out by the team on their own sports network and then you're offended when that's called out. If you want to be excited about "cleaning up data and putting it in the cloud" then so be it. Also, it's undeniable that the Sox best area before was pitching development. It was not the area that needed a significant overhaul. The Sox have produced more pitching WAR than almost any team in baseball over the past 20 years.

Has less errors at third than Ramirez, Machado and a few others. And Sosa hit two homers today but I guess you need something.

I mean, that is sort of common sense.

We offer Schriffen

It's your argument. Don't get mad at me because choosing a quarter of a century for your argument was a poor choice. Also, where are you getting these rankings from?

To do what, exactly? You're jumping to some huge conclusions here.

Bring up Baldwin and release Capra. Even if Baldwin stinks he'll be better than Capra.

Sosa is fine for where they're at as a team. I don't need to see any more Rojas or Capra.

SOX WIN!!! Score runs, win games.

Lenny 2 Strikes?

Have a day lenyn

What value is there in having access to data whenever possible? Is this a serious question?

Not the White Sox fault.

Very few s%*# heads ever learn. This is what happens when you never get punched in the mouth growing up. Coddled bitches shouting vile s%*# this is probably the first time he's ever even felt any consequences.

Tihs narrative isn't true though. They've hit on more than Sale, Rodon and Crochet. The White Sox have a lot of success stories. The Sox got 170 innings of a 3.8 FIP out of Phillip fucking Humber They turned Mark Buehrhle into a borderline hall of famer. They unlocked Gavin Floyd's talent that had remained hidden. The acquired and turned Matt Thornton from an out-of-control reliever into one of the games best. They converted Sergio Santos from a SS into a dominant closer with an elite pitch. They acquired John Danks as a failed prospect and turned him into a viable ++ MLB arm prior to injury. They took a guy released by the Yankees and turned him into one of the most consistent pitchers in MLB (Quintana) who went on to acquire Cease who you took from being a designated reliever (read every scouting report that exists prior to the trade) and turned him into an ACE. They acquired Gio and Lopez when their stock had tanked and rebuilt Giolito. They developed Bassit and then gave him away for Bum Samardzija. They reinvented Nate Jones and Hector Santiago and made them both viable big leaguers (Jones was +++ before injury). They did the same with Kahnle. That's just me pulling cases from the top of my head without looking at all the details. Claiming the White Sox only developed Rodon, Sale and Crochet is nonsense.

He's probably hung over.

I think have just been so atrociously poor at developing hitting that by comparison pitching looks good. It’s not like the Sox lead the league in pitching statistics every year. They’ve just hit big on three left handed starters.

You're missing the point. This is a problem throughout all of baseball because of how pitchers are taught to maximize velocity before they're even drafted. There's not much the Sox can do about it. Having so many pitchers drop around the same time is likely a statistical anomaly.

And hopefully the rest of MLB joins the Sox.

The Sox did not prioritize maxing velocity the way other orgs did, and velocity is what correlates heavily with TJ surgery. I don't know if the Sox are prioritizing max velocity more now (I suspect they are, as everyone is), but I do know that every pitcher is told to prioritize velocity as soon as they show any ability to pitch at a high level, so I'm not surprised to see a rash of surgeries needed. Hopefully they don't all hit at once like they did for the Sox this year, but I would expect every viable prospect to need TJ at some point.

Explain why lilly white Jason and Hawk got so much similar criticism.

Unfortunately race is still something that impacts opinions, perceptions, and attitudes in this country and in baseball long after Jackie Robinson came into the game. Deny that if you wish but it's reality. My own opinion of the criticism of this young man is that it often exposes more about those who engage in it than it does about the broadcaster. Schriff will never be "competent" enough for some people who are looking for someone else they can probably relate to more.

You are missing the forest from the trees here man. “Copying what others are doing” is 100% without question what we need to be doing. Will that make us a best in class organization? f*** no. Will it give us an edge over others? Definitely not. But it will quickly bring us out of the god damn Stone Age that we were stuck in under Hahn. You have to start somewhere and getting your basic foundations in place is the first step towards righting the ship long-term. Going from being completely incompetent to just below average would be a massive improvement. As for your pitching analysis, using a 20 year sample to highlight our capabilities as of late is completely flawed. 20 years ago pitching labs and biomechanics were barely a thing and have obviously grown in prominence over time. So much of the value that you are citing is likely driven by a single draft pick that was selected and developed by a different group of people using different processes (ones that were likely more up-to-date at the time). Change your sample to players added in the past 10 years and tell me where we rank. Hell, make it five and tell me where we rank. We are well fucking past the Don Cooper & Herm Schneider glory days. And let me be clear here, there is certainly a PR angle at play here. I’m not a fool who believes everything Getz says and I know there is an intrinsic motivation for him to hype up all the behind the scenes stuff. But that doesn’t change the fact that they are actually trying to modernize the org by bringing in external ideas, best practices, and people. Again, that won’t solve all our problems, but it should materially bridge the gap between us and most other orgs outside of probably the Rockies. And if we can be even be in the realm of acceptability, there is a chance even a mediocre GM can get lucky and put together a competitive team. But until the basics are in place, the current nightmare we are enduring will never end.

It’s more that it’s just one embarrassing story after another.

Coworker played with a guy who spent some time in the Sox Org about 4 years back. Said their bullpens in Spring Training were "throw a fastball", "throw a curveball", and the Staff would just use their eyes and take notes. No data whatsover.

The guys work is what drew the criticism. Last year was abjectly awful, there is no other way to describe it. He was ranked one of the worst broadcasters in the league, and constantly was on embarrassing replays. That’s not unjust criticism, he earned that also, pretty lame of you to drop race into the discussion as if anyone ever mentioned anything like that in criticism

Agreed, and 1999 preceded a fun 2000 season, even though they were steamrolled by the Mariners in the playoffs. I doubt this awful season will precede a 95 win season next year.

I'm speechless. Even if dead drunk a normal human wouldn't yell at a player about his deceased mom.

With all due respect 1999 has nothing on the past few seasons and how this franchise with a future that looked so promising went absolutely right down the toilet because of the owner who seemingly simply doesn't care anymore and who's ego and arrogance are unmatched.

I like Bannister, but all this focus on overhauling pitching seems like a no-win game as the Sox were very good at that previously and so, while there's always room to improve I feel there was more low hanging fruit to tackle. Also, this is just PR fluff. The Sox are selling you how much they're changing while their results are as bad as the game has ever seen. It's a new angle to sell hope when at rock bottom.

I still think about this video whenever I see Syndergaard’s name: https://x.com/jquadddddd/status/1218021838443438081

Fantastic post. Only one note. It’s Lyle Lanley.