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I’m surprised that some of you still seem to be deciding how good or bad the team is in 5 game increments.

They still scored 5 or more in 3 of the losses, and managed 3 or more in all of them, these defeats have been mainly down to the pitching.

I don’t think it is common for a team to foot the bill for infrastructure projects that aren’t even their property like adjacent streets and train property. I know you are jaded by pretty much every owner in this state but this is ridiculous, their net worth has nothing to do with expanding roads and trains to accommodate and fascilitate more business into Arlington Heights

I think you got 'em all.

Including our normal announcer

Nothing says we're moving forward like the return of Jacob Amaya.

Yes, it is absolutely obtuse for you to be like “wow the bears want the city and state to upgrade the surrounding streets and trainstops for the increased business and traffic, that is totally laughable because they haven’t won a lot of games but also are worth 8.8 billion dollars hahahaa they can f*** themselves they should pay for it themselves” it’s amazing that you interview all these people and write all these books and still can manage to not understand the process here. They just said they aren’t asking the state for money for the stadium, THAT WAS THE BIG DEAL FOR THE LAST YEAR, THEY WANTED STATE MONEY FOR THE STADIUM.

I think there needs to be a partnership between a franchise and a geographical area ESPECIALLY if that area is giving a LOT of money to millionaires and billionaires. These teams aren't just a business but a public trust (Eddie Einhorn himself wrote that in the prologue of Rich Lindberg's White Sox encyclopedia). In return it's not unreasonable to expect the franchises to do the very best they can to put together a good organization and win. Now that doesn't mean getting to the World Series or the Super Bowl and win it every year, it doesn't mean making the playoffs every year but it DAMN well means better than: The White Sox having five winning seasons in the soon to be 19 years or The Bears having nine winning seasons in the last 33 years Or is that too obtuse for you? As far as the McCaskey's not having the money, fine, the team is valued at 8.8 billion, sell 50% for four billion there's your money friends and neighbors. Someone would happily pay that to own half of an iconic franchise.

Bullpens are random. Going like 80-200 over the last two seasons is not. You are what you record says you are.

So, if the Bears are serious about committing something like $2-3B in private funding to the development of a stadium and the rest of the Arlington Park property, you'll tell them to go f$#@ themselves when it comes to infrastructure improvements to the area? What about the Fire building a privately-financed soccer stadium at the 78, should the city and state tell them to the same thing when it comes to infrastructure improvements to the site, which won't be cheap? Same if Ishbia says he'd commit $1B in private money to a new Sox stadium there. In that case, what should be done with the Arlington Park land, just turn all that land it into a bunch of ugly suburban strip malls, Costcos, warehouses, and townhouses? What about the 78, just let it sit vacant for another 50 years? And I'm certainly no fan of the McCaskeys, but owning a team that is worth $8B doesn't mean they have $8B sitting around in the bank or some other liquid investments. My biggest problem with the Bears deal is that the taxpayers are still on the hook for over $500M for the botched 2002 Soldier Field rebuild. All that money for a stadium that quickly became functionally obsolete.

Luis has officially gotten his xwOBA up to the 50% percentile. At this point, without some bad luck (expected numbers are about 20% better than actuals) he'd be on a 3.5 WAR pace with the horrible start. Insane that no one traded for Robert. He really could have been the x factor of the entire trade deadline.

Hard to have current pride in the White Sox after three years of historic losses and the much-ballyhooed rebuild totally imploding...meanwhile, Cubs for most of the season had one of the most exciting teams in baseball. There's a lot of historic pride and historicity...but certainly not with Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Look at the attrition rate for Millenials that made up the majority of the board from let's say 2016 through today. You're asking politicians to feel pride when they feel like the equivalent of abandoned Minnesota Twins' fans.

I was completely checked out for 1-2 years so I had no idea what this was in reference to. What the f*** was the point of this trade when you are an all-time bad team? The guys numbers were pretty solid for a 17 year old. This feels like a dumb move that could become Tatis Jr-esque. Obviously very unlikely, but it just feels unbelievably stupid.

I mean…they are. Even when he isn’t hitting he is still giving quality at bats and making the pitcher work.

So disheartening. The real progress of this season boils down to Rule 5: Shane Smith and Vasil (indirectly). I guess Colson too, especially considering that it looked like he could be a bust. Not a lot.

6 straight, straight trash

Are the Rockies on the schedule again yet? Getz’s clown car team can’t win unless they face garbage teams.

It’s amazing how teams go into hitting slumps with everybody forgetting how to hit, we’ve seen it happen many times all over baseball and will see it many more times, so frustrating.

This roster quickly got ugly.

Everybody on the planet knew that the third pitch would be the same as the first 2, Robert just can’t adjust to that pitch, has to go down and hit that pitch to right field. We had chances in the last 3 innings and have bupkus.

Lefty/ righty BS plus injuries.

What da hell are you talkin about?

Quero is out of sync.

It’s funny when you are from Chicago and don’t realize how stupid the Chicago accent sounds until you hear people with it on TV. Straight out of old school SNL. 🤣

His bat died long before his injury.

Maybe Bill Veeck wasn’t all that popular, quite of few there tonight probably never heard of him.

There is A LOT of that happening. I don't think people understand that so much economic development money is out there specifically for attracting and maintaining businesses. Literally in any town of an OK size, there are redevelopment and economic growth boards which use these tax dollars as direct subsidies for business retention and recruitment. There were companies lining up to pay Amazon to move. NYC put a $3.5 BILLION dollar package to get the HQ2, in just TIF money. That company is worth over a TRILLION in market cap.

It isn't fake news and your perspective is fair. I think people here hand-wave away the crime simply because 'murders' are down; well murders aren't the only crime. The CTA is a mess since COVID. You don't really want to be in the Loop after dark anymore. The schools are somehow getting worse. Cops are playing pranks on regular people and don't bother to follow the rules of the road. There's no accountability for anyone in a position of power, public or private. I'm skeptical about raising a family here...where would the kids go to school, I can't afford private school, and could they play outside after dark? If my kid is anything like me, he'll be too dumb for a magnet school. This is to say, I think we're at our worst period since I've been alive -- which is all the more reason to think about how the locals can improve this place. The North Side is in pretty good shape, development in the Loop is booming, but we need to improve the rest of the city. The only thing the City can think to do is open up a grocery story or a fast food joint and say they've "created jobs". They're minimum wage jobs that you can't support a family on. I'd probably sell drugs too if the only other option was to work at Chipotle.

Pretty fun group for AFL

He meant we traded a prospect for Julks.

MLB's first female umpire is currently officiating first base in this Florida/Atlanta game if anyone is interested.

Ok well if you want to be obtuse about it, that’s entirely up to you

Remember Yermin Mercedes had a sandwich named after him.................

Getz traded for Julks (a prospect; not "Cash considerations") so I'm glad to see him play. He also traded for DeLoach, Fletcher, Baker...waiver wire types that he traded for. Now we have Gonzalez in AAA...he's a little younger, but he looks just like the rest of them: modest power, not very athletic. And he's bringing back the same veteran outfield for next year. And Rojas continues to take ABs, even though he's clowned it up all season. Get serious please, Mr. Getz.

I mean think he looked at what relievers were getting at the deadline and thought I can do that. The problem was 100% targeting an unproven 32 year old who hadn't got to his second full season for a kid who should be exactly the type of player we should be targeting. Just sign a free agent flip reliever like everyone else.

To each their own.

Cannon needs gone

This isn’t as fun as when they were winning all those games and scoring all those runs

What was essentially a complete non-effort at the deadline was the tell. You can't be so woefully unprepared at the deadline, like Getz was, if you are seriously rebuilding. It's really the same kind of player that's been around here for a decade. Not very athletic. Not a lot of power. No speed (they'd be last in steals, but for Robert). They don't seem to have a driving philosophy or anything. Just load up with AAAA level players and hope for the best.

That's what veterans bring....consistency

Someone make a thread "pushing towards 120+ losses" before tmr's game. Please and ty.

He's thinking, "whatever JR tells me to do with Robert, that's what will take place..."

The wheels fell off last year. He just got one wheel on the wheel studs, and it fell back off.

I wouldn’t call 42 years ago “recently.”

YUP and I am convinced the threads cursed the team.

There's been a few of us here saying Sosa was the most likely to improve and stick, of everyone around. His history shows it. Hilarious how much hype Vargas gets and hate Sosa gets. Sosa has now been more than 50% more valuable ytd than Vargas despite fewer games played.

I guess I just doubted that a bit when he hired Boras.

Gio this year + ReyLo last year is softened a bit by Quero and hopefully Bush. The rebuild hitters (outside of bratwurst-fueled Vaughn) aren't painful to watch, but damn if it doesn't hurt seeing Crochet-Giolito-Reynaldo-Rodon-Cease, let alone Chris Sale.