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Kopech is not a starter


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If he can't throw strikes he's not even good as a relief pitcher. 

He's simply missed to much time, had to many injuries, had to much off the field drama and the Sox haven't done him a lot of favors with his development.

Another failed "core" player.  

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Giolito, Lynn & Clevinger will all be gone after this season. There's no one in Birmingham or Charlotte who's any better than Kopech for 2024. It'll be dumpster diving again in free agency to fill out the rotation.

Even if Kopech is a ~5 ERA guy who can barely go 5 innings, that would make him the 2nd best starter in the organization for 2024. He has to stay in the rotation for the time being, even if he'll eventually transition back to being a reliever again

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2 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

Giolito, Lynn & Clevinger will all be gone after this season. There's no one in Birmingham or Charlotte who's any better than Kopech for 2024. It'll be dumpster diving again in free agency to fill out the rotation.

Even if Kopech is a ~5 ERA guy who can barely go 5 innings, that would make him the 2nd best starter in the organization for 2024. He has to stay in the rotation for the time being, even if he'll eventually transition back to being a reliever again

What a depressing reality! And the hope that trading will bring in anyone capable of helping next season is slim so long as Hahn is doing those trades.

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5 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

Giolito, Lynn & Clevinger will all be gone after this season. There's no one in Birmingham or Charlotte who's any better than Kopech for 2024. It'll be dumpster diving again in free agency to fill out the rotation.

Even if Kopech is a ~5 ERA guy who can barely go 5 innings, that would make him the 2nd best starter in the organization for 2024. He has to stay in the rotation for the time being, even if he'll eventually transition back to being a reliever again

Garrett  Crochet will be the starting rotation in 2024.

 

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When he has any semblance of command he is a starter, and a good one. When he does not, he is not useful in any way. Why would not making it through an inning make people think he’s a good reliever?  
 

He’s gone through this before, hopefully he can turn it around. I also hope it isn’t because he’s hurt a lot worse than thought.

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The Sox should option Kopech down to AAA to let him work through his s%*# and see if they can claw back a year of control somehow.  The fact we’re still trying to make him a positive fWAR starter who can handle +160 innings when he’s 2 1/2 years from free agency is remarkable.

Can you still option a guy who has already had an arbitration contract?

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1 hour ago, The Kids Can Play said:

He isn't good as a pitching coach and I've been saying that for awhile now.

Bruh.

Can you fix your damn signature so it doesn't have 10 empty lines after it? Every post you make stretches out the replies and it drives me bonkers.

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2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

When he has any semblance of command he is a starter, and a good one. When he does not, he is not useful in any way. Why would not making it through an inning make people think he’s a good reliever?  
 

He’s gone through this before, hopefully he can turn it around. I also hope it isn’t because he’s hurt a lot worse than thought.

6.16

4.49

5.88

His FIP per season as a starting pitcher

He was incredible against the mighty Guardians, Royals, and Tigers I will give you that.

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Keegan Thompson, come on down. You’re Michael Kopech’s number one comparable pitcher.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kopecmi01.shtml

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5 hours ago, YonderLaroche said:

They need to concentrate on developing him as closer to ressurect him and save his career.  

Worked well with Lopez.

He has to get that crisp slider back...for one thing.

Just can't imagine him holding up as a closer though, purely from a mental standpoint.

Gets rattled too easily.

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5 hours ago, ScootsMcGoots said:

This team has derailed so many careers. I feel bad for so many players that have come through this dumpster fire of an organization from 2013 and on. 

Even Keppy/Keppinger?

LaRoche?

Escobar?

Holland?

Jay/Alonso?

Encarnacion?

Beckham and Bonifacio?

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