Chicago White Sox Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I’m sorry but it’s officially fucking time. Literally nothing to lose by doing so. Flame away! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Demote everyone, including Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 can we just relegate the entire team? does that exist in this sport? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I can think of no better place for a hitter to find their confidence than Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, nrockway said: can we just relegate the entire team? does that exist in this sport? 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, Quin said: I can think of no better place for a hitter to find their confidence than Charlotte. I immediately did: Mexico City. Andres Poco, your time is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 57 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I think they should all be goldfish. Tomorrow starts a new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I wonder if the Sox DFA'ed Vaughn anybody would even pick him up. I know he's a first round can't miss sensation but it's so painful to watch him bat that I can't imagine another team thrusting Vaughn upon their AAA manager. Is Vaughn close to being done? He's 11 for 69 with three RBI. My gosh. That's a .159 BA. He needs a change of scenery so bad. Please get rid of him, Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Vaughn passed out hot dogs on State Street before opening day. He can stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohnut Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, greg775 said: I wonder if the Sox DFA'ed Vaughn anybody would even pick him up. Maybe Houston to replace Abreu, who's batting .073? Woof. 😅 But, yeah, Vaughn has to head to Charlotte and try to figure it out one last time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 What argument is there for keeping him up? I may have been drunk when I created this thread, but the point holds true sober. This kid is broken and some minor league development can’t hurt (even if four years too late). Also, Sheets is almost certainly just on a hot streak, but why not give him a month and find out without having to play him in RF? If he fails, just reverse course in a month. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 56 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What argument is there for keeping him up? I may have been drunk when I created this thread, but the point holds true sober. This kid is broken and some minor league development can’t hurt (even if four years too late). Also, Sheets is almost certainly just on a hot streak, but why not give him a month and find out without having to play him in RF? If he fails, just reverse course in a month. Once Pham is up (which I assume is like, next week?) just put Sheets at 1st everyday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 57 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What argument is there for keeping him up? I may have been drunk when I created this thread, but the point holds true sober. This kid is broken and some minor league development can’t hurt (even if four years too late). Also, Sheets is almost certainly just on a hot streak, but why not give him a month and find out without having to play him in RF? If he fails, just reverse course in a month. Exactly, with Pham soon to arrive put Sheets at first base and send AV to Charlotte to figure things out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Exactly, with Pham soon to arrive put Sheets at first base and send AV to Charlotte to figure things out. Is Pham the new Richie Zisk of the franchise? Savior? HR after HR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, greg775 said: Is Pham the new Richie Zisk of the franchise? Savior? HR after HR? No, but right now he’s probably better than anyone else on this wretched team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 hours ago, wegner said: I think they should all be goldfish. Tomorrow starts a new season. This sounds like something Grifol would say, or did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: This sounds like something Grifol would say, or did he? I'm angling for the gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 It appears that Andrew's vulnerability to off speed pitches, especially on the outer half, has been exploited by pitchers. I do not have an answer but as a fan watching a lot of his whiffs, it looks to me like he may need to adjust the timing of his raised leg kick. It looks like he loads up on his back leg too early and the ball is in the catcher's mitt by the time he "steps in the bucket" so to speak with his left foot. I am not adding anything that he doesn't know and the coaches don't know, but it is painful to watch him taken down with so many K's on pitches that are out of the strike zone. For sure, he is a better hitter than what he has shown so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, tray said: It appears that Andrew's vulnerability to off speed pitches, especially on the outer half, has been exploited by pitchers. I do not have an answer but as a fan watching a lot of his whiffs, it looks to me like he may need to adjust the timing of his raised leg kick. It looks like he loads up on his back leg too early and the ball is in the catcher's mitt by the time he "steps in the bucket" so to speak with his left foot. I am not adding anything that he doesn't know and the coaches don't know, but it is painful to watch him taken down with so many K's on pitches that are out of the strike zone. For sure, he is a better hitter than what he has shown so far. Right now he isn’t doing anything right. What really concerns me is when he was drafted he was thought to be very advanced, and selective. The first time I saw him bat in a spring training game, he only swung at strikes. He seemed destined to be a 90 plus a year walk guy, high OBP and big power. The two scouting reports I read were he was the second coming of Goldschmidt, and another said he was Konerko on steroids. He’s nor even Lamar Johnson on steroids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 37 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Right now he isn’t doing anything right. What really concerns me is when he was drafted he was thought to be very advanced, and selective. The first time I saw him bat in a spring training game, he only swung at strikes. He seemed destined to be a 90 plus a year walk guy, high OBP and big power. The two scouting reports I read were he was the second coming of Goldschmidt, and another said he was Konerko on steroids. He’s nor even Lamar Johnson on steroids. His brain is baseball mush right now. A trip to minors to work on his game and free his mind will do him wonders. BUT he plays for a s%*# organization who has no concept of how to help him. He is already broken but if they don't help this kid they will destroy his mlb career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 AV and Benni to Charlotte. Maybe AB refuses and we get out of his contract. No one in the minors is ready of course, but Grossman and Pham on the corners would be better than what we have now. Colas could be next if Grossman flames out quickly. Nothing to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I found this at bat pretty remarkable. Vaughn doesn't even scare pitchers with the possibility that he might punish something in the zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Vaughn continues a long line of bust draft picks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 55 minutes ago, Soxfest said: Vaughn continues a long line of bust draft picks! We are nothing if not consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, zisk said: AV and Benni to Charlotte. Maybe AB refuses and we get out of his contract. No one in the minors is ready of course, but Grossman and Pham on the corners would be better than what we have now. Colas could be next if Grossman flames out quickly. Nothing to lose. Just FWIW, Sox are paying Benintendi no matter what. If we tried to make him play in AAA, he could just walk away and keep the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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