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Chris Getz was hired in 2016. He was then handed a bunch of top 50 prospects and top 10 draft picks. By 2020 we were already tapped out of a pipeline and needing to trade major league pieces to supplement a playoff roster. By 2023 we had 100 losses. I don't know how we say he didn't make it worse. He happened to take over in a time where technology in player development exploded. People say he "modernized it" without thinking whether it is still behind all other 29 teams. He was pretty bad at his job actually.

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My biggest problem with Getz is that he was director of player development, and this team seriously lacks in that department. That being said, he is the man in charge and I wish him the best of luck because I want the White Sox to succeed.

I'm all for giving him a chance. He hasn't screwed up yet. He gets criticized here for being a KC grad. Big deal. And, he gets criticized for heading a farm system that is in the bottom 5. He inherited that mess, and he didn't make it worse. He didn't make draft choices the last 5 years, did he? Getz would not have been my choice either, but he now has the gig, so let's just see how he does. If he fucks up, I'll be the first one to get after him. I know I was anti Hahn long before it was fashionable here. Nothing is going to happen until World Series is over. Then his opportunity surfaces.

If the Sox want Merrifield so bad, they can just bring back Elvis.

I mean, these guys were all blue-chips: Moncada, Robert, Eloy, Kopech, Cease Gio was a blue-chip whose shine was wearing off. He needed to go outside the org to Katz to get help. Then ReyLo had some buzz. Vaughn has plenty of hype as polished hitter. Then non-blue chips who just fucking languished in the org, but had various levels of industry hype: Rutherford, Clarkin, Basabe Alec Hansen's rise and fall may as well have been developmental malpractice. Getting nothing out of Adolfo was embarrassing. And then we have success stories in Jake Burger and Gavin Sheets, who Getz didn't bring along to the alternate site in 2020. Burger was eventually added in mid-August, but only after putting in his own work in a collegiate league. Sheets had to learn how to play the outfield (as well as he can) on his own. @Eminor3rd put it best that players enter the Sox org with certain strengths and weaknesses and they don't ever change or develop. And if Chris Getz doesn't share any blame cause the nErDs were overriding him, then he's a prick who has just been sitting there and collecting checks for 7 years.

I, too, would like to give Getz a chance. But not removing Grifol is a giant red flag right out the gate. If he pleasantly surprises me in the off season, great. But Grifol remaining is killing any optimism for me.

He definitely has screwed up. He told us all that Omar Vizquel and Wes Helms were great after they participated in some truly salacious things. Cool guy, can’t wait

No, it's an unfounded rumour that he's qualified for the job!

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I really hope the Sox take a page from the Cubs and focus on defense and game calling when it comes to the catching position going forward. The Cubs signed both Yan Gomes and Tucker Barnhart for a very good defensive catching platoon. This method is a good way to help develop young pitchers. It’s cost friendly as I don’t think a team should spend big money on C’s unless it’s a superstar type player (Posey, Realmuto) or a home grown star (Sal Perez). I think it’s also a good way to steal wins as it also helps a team’s defense. With that being I hope the Sox sign Victor Caratini and Austin Hedges.

I really want nothing to do with Merrifield. I watched plenty of Blue Jays last season and I just don't know what he brings to the table. Versatility is nice, but when you suck at everything, versatility hardly matters. He feels like another guy the Sox would overpay right before he drops off the cliff.

No, he didn't make the draft choices, but he was responsible for taking the draft choices and developing them. Like it or not, the Sox have done a piss-poor job of developing non-blue-chip prospects. That was literally his job, and the product has been horrible.

I also don't get the desire to get Merrifield. He's not good. They'd be better off giving Sosa a shot.

They've also done a poor job of developing blue-chips, if we're being honest.

Snell is going to win the NL Cy Young and Montgomery earned himself a ton of money by pitching well in the postseason. We're not sniffing either of those 2 pitchers.

Lol this is where I'm at. We know it will happen. Let's see the damage.

Step 1: List available former Royals. Step 2: Throw dart Step 3: Profit

Nick Hostetler didn't have many deep drafts, in retrospect. The 2019 draft was one that looked like they had a plan, held off money to sign toolsy HS kids taken in the later rounds. I remember that draft being lauded by the pundits. Thompson and Dalquist, two HS pitchers, taken 2 and 3, haven't really developed. Neither has owned a level. Logan Glass, Chase Krogman, and Bryce Bush (2018) were all seen as nice, late round finds. None have developed. DJ Gladney (#16) and Chase Solesky (#21) seem to be the only bright spots, only for exceeding the low expectations of their slot. Both are rule 5 eligible this off-season. I hoped Getz would do a good well in his previous job. The 2022 draft class looks very successful, but that seems like an outlier, so far. Perhaps it took this long for his modifications to minor league development to bear fruit. It could be all of his good ideas were put on the back burner. They certainly churned through pitching coordinators and all. Maybe Vizquel and Helms were foisted upon him, and company man that he is, took the pie for those decisions. My only hope is that KW was the problem, the egotistical bro-dude who sacked Rick Hahn's 'genius', and now with a relatively fresh set of eyes (or at least not fogged over with resignation), and no multiple layers of hindrance from above, Getz could at least get out of the backfield. That's all I have, at this point. It's not like I can fire him.

He seems fine. I'd be happy if we raided all the Nats FO that was lopped off, not sure they'd want to join. But mainly DiPuglia, but it seems like Paddy is staying.

It was pretty much known to everyone with any inside info that if Rick or KW were to somehow be bad enough to be let go, Getz was the replacement. If they weren’t let go, I don’t think there is another team that would have seriously considered him for their GM job. Now all that doesn’t mean he will be bad, and he is all we have, so we have to hope he is better than what the consensus thinks. We were told the main reason he got the job was time. JR didn’t want to waste any bringing in someone else, Flimsy at best. Gets has already said on numerous occasions, he had to do a “deep dive”. And has seemingly walked back thoughts this team could actually contend next year, realizing the fan base isn’t THAT dumb. I am not optimistic, but hope this guy surprises me. I just think JR will still have too much influence, and it will be more of the same.

It's an unfounded rumor that he's unqualified for the job?

There are cheaper Merrifields. Don’t let the name overshadow how washed up he is.

Harold thinks he will be great, and Harold is rarely wrong - if ever. Based on his opinion, I think Getz will be great.

He's not playing, basically 99.9% on that.

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Getz is the epitome of failing upward. He wasn’t qualified for his previous job in which he failed miserably, and he isn’t qualified for his new job with even more responsibility. My only hope is that he seems to have brought in a few new baseball people who are smarter than him and can help overcome his many deficiencies. This is still a Reinsdorf operation however, so Getz will get to fail continually and repeatedly without consequence. I wish him the best but even the greatest of baseball execs would struggle with the impossible task that lies ahead in fixing the White Sox.

Yea pretty sure confirmed out this game because they sent Bagent for the QB questions to the press

Gio to work with Katz. Possible bundle with ReyLo. Eric Hosmer for leadership.

Non of the top pitchers are going to come here because 1) Jerry 2) Why would anyone want to come here

I didn't say that I agreed with it. I'm just stating what they might be thinking

Oh man I forgot all about pitching. Best options to me (they ain't getting any of the non-reclamation guys, but this is what I would like). Go for 3 of the following for SP: Aaron Nola Sonny Gray Blake Snell Jordan Montgomery Montas/Giolito/Flaherty as your reclamation projects RP I would mostly roll the dice with in-house options. Maybe pick up a few anchor types: Reylo Ryne Stanek Shintaro Fujinami (if you can help his control) Phil Maton Jordan Hicks

my head: - Whit Merrifield - Johnny Cueto my heart (and this is low expectaions of wanting them to just try out the effectiveness of bannister/katz) - Giolito / Flaherty 1 year deals

Outside of Hahn's trades for prospects + signing Robert, the farm system has remained ranked towards the bottom of the league during Getz's entire tenure with the team. Sure, he can't be blamed for it in 2017. However, in 2023, you need to start showing results to put on your resume. Unless you work for Jerry Reinsdorf.

I'm all for giving someone a chance, but I don't have big expectations. I just hope he does more this off season than Hahn did with the last.

Think you meant Jerry. What in the hell are you doing WEGNER?!?!?!

"Is there a 2 for 1 discount? Asking for a friend"

No! ReyLo and Giolito must never be split up.

I think they meant for a culture change. I believe they feel next year is kinda wasted year anyways, so these guys could help changing the locker room.

Eloy is 27 on OD. He's not young anymore and has been injured or bad since 2021.

It's almost as if relievers are volatile and overpaying for veteran relievers is dumb.

Its almost like the Phillies have coaching and player development

These can’t be real posts. Are you both inferring Bears fans have been “unfair” in wanting a Top 5 QB in the league? Something every other NFL team has had at some point? They are the charter franchise of the NFL and have NEVER come close to having a true franchise QB. Bears fans were SPOILED with Culter?!!?? Get fucked

Kind of like Renteria was allowed to do all the groundwork during the rebuild then was fired so LaRussa could come in for the finishing touches. And it destroyed the team. I’ll never forgive Reinsdorf for that.

If she came here, it would take her like a year to learn the whole org so

Chapman helped win them a World Series and Eloy is nothing special is he?

Normal people will look at that poll and think, "wow - we suck." The Sox FO would look at that poll and think, "see? Hiring from the Royals' Front Office makes sense, and here's the evidence to prove it."

Sox need to jump on this. She can help in some capacity and is probably more competent than a lot of people in the org

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I think re-setting the clock on a rookie contract is very valuable, and if Fields plays well enough to even consider not drafting Williams if in a position to do so, he will bring a ton back in a trade. You might have some growing pains with Williams but the Bears could get dominant very quickly.