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Agreed Hard life for him. Prayers. 🙏🙏🙏

Are you this interested in sources when it's a story that would be "negative" towards the White Sox? Jeez.

I love the AI summary of what's wrong with Joey Gallo. It sums up the entire Sox system. Gallo's offensive production has been poor, even by his own low standards.

Lineup: 1B: Vaughn 2B: Sosa SS: Baldwin# 3B: Rojas* LF: Benintendi* CF: Taylor RF: Tauchman* DH: Vargas CA: Lee Bench: BC: Thaiss* IF: Amaya OF: Slater UT: Drury Rotation: Perez* Martin Cannon Burke Wilson Bullpen: CL: Anderson SU: Karinchak SU: Berroa MR: Varland MR: Booser* MR: Murfee MR: Gilbert* LR: Smith

Praying for him. As if he hasn't already dealt with enough. https://www.mlb.com/news/bobby-jenks-former-mlb-closer-battling-cancer

It wasn’t even leaked by the White Sox initially though, it was leaked by the agent. The Sox signed Grandal and then they offered Wheeler 5/125. The agent reportedly told Hahn that they had a deal. Wheeler’s wife preferred the East coast and Wheeler took 5/118 from Philly instead. The agent leaked to media that Sox had highest offer because of future clients and a good relationship with Sox. s%*# happens. The pivot to Keuchel and Encarnacion didn’t work out obviously.

No you didn’t. You posted a video of Wheeler saying they were looking at houses in a number of places and the money was “close”. AJ Pierzybski said that he took less money. Wheeler said the money was close. At no point does he say yes the White Sox bid more, nor does he say it was significantly different. He is much more careful in his language than you are, which you won’t pay attention to because he doesn’t confirm Hahn’s story. This could literally have been the Phillies with an offer that was more after taxes and that interview is accurate.

That's awful. Prayers sent to Bobby Jenks

Nooooooo. Prayers for Bobby. f*** Cancer!

There were people who told us not to be so down on the team in 2024 too.

Fucking sad news…Jenks was an all time favorite for me.

I will let someone else start the thread, but the Jenks news is devastating

First time in my Sox fandom I have to study the roster, try to read mlb.com to learn who will be playing for us on a regular basis this season. I can't be the only Sox fan who needs a class in Sox 101 2025 team. It sickens and disgusts me. Am I alone here? Certainly some of you know some pretty darn good Sox fans of past years who have no idea who these current Sox stiffs and retreads who will take the field in 2025 are. If so please tell me I'm not alone! It sickens me to see who will comprise our infield this year and catcher positions. And the bullpen. Who are these no names and why did the Sox do this to their loyal fans. I am a longtime Sox fan whether u believe it or not. p.s. At least I've heard of Beni and Robert and Vaughn.

No reason not to mock it though.

I'm hoping Bobby gets better so he can be with his family, friends and fans for years to come.

I actually do think velocity was a significant issue last season.

But Hahn has blackmail on Wheeler and forced him to say this!

You bring up McCarthy like they traded Tatis Jr when he was good.

It's a rebuild .You may be right about Vargas but being right about guys isn't the point. Rebuilds require patience. Vargas is out of options . It's his last chance and Sosa's too. He's had very good minor leagues numbers.He can't possibly be as bad as he's shown. Being a good hitter is harder than ever. Numbers across baseball were down. Pitchers make improvements faster than hitters. Adding a pitch with a lot of movement with command is not easy but I think it's easier than making split second decisions about swinging the bat. You're dealing with a lot of prospects , any of whom can flop or succeed. We're all guessing here. Someone like Meidroth might be the most MLB ready prospect the Sox have based on his AAA numbers but unfortunately he's not 1st in line based on options. There's a pecking order whether we like it or not. I think the logjam has a purpose. Another name for a logjam is a dam. You remove a few logs ( guys out of options , guys you trade off), you let guys show they are ready and push hard against that weakened dam until they burst through. The wheat will be separated from the chaff .It's just going to take time. There will be a lot of comings and goings of guys Getz made minor trades for because he's dealing on the fringes. There's lots of failure doing that. If you're angry about Getz being hired or his performance so far it's understandable. However I haven't seen many counter solutions to what Getz is up against. Who would've taken a no win position like Getz is in and done better ? You can all dream that someone could have been hired but he or she still would need to do the same things Getz has been trying to do with as little money . Maybe Crochet would have been handled differently if a different GM fired Katz and didn't hire Bannister. Maybe they don't sign Fedde because apparently the rest of MLB didn't think enough of him to offer what the Sox did. It also might be why they were so reluctant to trade for him. For a guy who didn't have much money to work with signing Fedde was a quite a coup. It's pretty pitiful that in 2 off seasons as GM that $15M Fedde contract is the most he's spent on any one player. The fact that he hired a few well respected coaches and seems to be making an effort to overhaul the infrastructure all seems to be the right things to do. You might be skeptical and say Hahn said and did the same things but that doesn't mean Getz shouldn't get his shot at doing it better. I just don't care if Fletcher doesn't get to play CF when Robert is traded .Better to have a guy who saves runs in Taylor than a guy who can't save runs in the field or create them at bat. A good fielding RF isn't necessarily a good CF. Dudes are going to have to show they deserve a shot or get out of the way.

5/$75. We are in the basement with the A’s. Does that impress you? An offer isn’t a contract. Do you agree that 5/$75 is pathetic and embarrassing?

Dude, you are fucking flexing on a player that the Sox didn’t sign. 5/$75. The White Sox are literally as pathetic as only one other team in all of baseball in their max contract — the Athletics. Does that impress you? I know one thing — Wheeler didn’t sign with the White Sox and definitely made the best decision by not doing so. 🤣🤣🤣

The thing is that Rick Hahn would actually have wanted that leaked because people would bring that up for years to prove they were real players for a free agent, after the Machado fiasco. And look what happens, it’s repeated forever based solely on an anonymous leak, which totally didn’t come from Rick Hahn.

LMAO. You have issues with people complaining and not trusting a team that has lost 222 games the last 2 years. You do it almost every post. You’ve been far more wrong than right.

How ironic.

I guess I meant it was positive in a way that they actually had the highest bid on it. Also think it was entirely his wife not wanting to live in Chicago, if I remember correctly.

Best wishes to Bobby, I hope he can win this fight

Damn. f*** cancer.

I'm not as down on the team as yourself and others are. I like the starting pitching rotation. I'm hoping that Montgomery, Meidroth, Quero and Teel provide something positive this season. If that happens things can turn around. The only thing I'm down about is the bullpen. I was hoping they would add some pieces to the bullpen this off season.

Ouch. I hope he gets exposed to some of the newer treatment modalities.

If they get serious about winning in 2-3 years, they're going to have to sign multiple guys to contracts that will break that record. There is simply no way to compete in free agency of they don't.

At the end of the day, their largest contract is still 5/$75.

There is no ambiguity. The White Sox offered Wheeler more money. He went to the Phillies, instead. Report: Zack Wheeler turned down more money from White Sox to sign with Phillies

But we don’t know what the tax implications were, we know the White Sox are willing to look at things like option years and say “we offered more money” - AND regardless, would the White Sox have extended him for $40 million a year on a second deal before he hit free agency?

That Rick Hahn said they topped.

The White Sox cap (traditional black with white letters) popularity greatly exceeds the popularity of the White Sox team. I would say by quite a large margin.

I want to say Mexicos team hat for the Olympics

Baldwin would be gone to get regular AAA Charlotte at-bats...the Taylor question is trickier since they don't really need five outfielders. You'd theoretically have to choose between Amaya/Drury...and Drury can't play SS and Baldwin once again needs to play regularly (best utility profile). Vargas could also back up all four IF positions but you don't want him at SS more than 12-15 games per year. Ramos can also back up every single infield position, too. They could instead go with Gallo at 1B/DH to provide more pop with no Robert.

I don't troll. Like or hate me I write how I feel as a life long Sox fan, a formerly proud Sox fan. The Sox have changed me for the worst. Ask fathom or caulfield how mad I'd get on here when our Sox lost to KC or the Cubs. Bitter anger.

The Bulls are in even worse shape than the Sox since JR has told his family to keep then and sell the Sox when he is gone. New ownership could change the fortune of the Sox franchise at least. Meanwhile another Reinsdorf will be running the Bulls.

C - Lee, Thais 1B - Vaughn 2B - Rojas SS - Montgomery 3B - Vargas DH - Gallo/a rotation of guys for rest/matchups LF - Benintendi CF - Taylor RF - Tauchaman/Slater 4th OF - Fletcher Util - Sosa Not how I would pick them, but seems like the right mix of logic + White Sox stupid.

Given his history I interpret this as expecting him to die this season.

Don't threaten Kyle with a good time.

How many of those are Sox sites? When it comes to the Sox - this place has more traffic than any of them - especially discussion. Twitter can have more isolated comments - but actual people trending together on views - this is it. Also in terms of actual baseball forums or reddits - it is a high volume board - but yes - slower than the past - given the broader dynamics - but also heavily due to the team. But overall - I wouldn't trade this for anything - its a true community....its also purely a hobby...not like we've ever operated it as a for profit or business. It really is a place for Sox fans from all over the world to be able to come on, vent, root together, etc aligned to a common goal.

Reinsdorf is a jerk.

What a slap in the face to Chicago, and the fans that treated Dick Allen with the respect he deserved. Maybe if the organization wasn't currently run by Reinsdorf, Dick's family would have honored his wishes and let him be inducted with a White Sox cap.

Truthfully I don’t really care how many games they lose this year as long as these younger players show some type of progress. At least there is a potential benefit to losing now unlike last year.

Who doesn’t want to go watch a $67 million dollar payroll team coming off of a record setting season?

And, on the plus side, they won't have been mathematically eliminated before June...