TheBooneLoganEra Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The funny thing is that everyone over on r/baseball loves that 2005 team, except Sox fans. We have the shittiest fanbase in baseball. That 04 team would've gone to the playoffs had Maggs and frank stayed healthy, and in most years the 06 team would've gone too. The central was actually at its strongest then. That was a good team which peaked in 05, not the fluke a lot of people think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Still not buying Hahn ever getting another GM job. He'll land on his feet somewhere, surely. Has those three alumni networks to rely upon and KW's glowing compliments about his intellect...not unlike when he said Robin Ventura could lead the US Army or a Fortune 500 company or words to that effect. All the comments coming out about Jeremy Haber being another version of Jonah Hill in Moneyball just back up the idea of Hahn never having the slightest bit of pure scouting instincts in his bones. Who needs a 190 page binder on Pedro Grifol to realize he's not THE ONE? Even Dayton Moore was an instinctive enough leader to cut Pedro loose from his organization... Guess we next need to ask Luis Robert if he knows who Haber or Getz actually are and what their respective roles are with the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, joejoesox said: The recent Kenny news and this is making me hate Hahn less. I always wondered why someone would subject themselves to being a puppet for the higher ups, but i never considered the fact that JR was holding him hostage. Tough spot to be in if you are Hahn. Hopefully Hahn leaks some information, im sure there is a lot, lot more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Still not buying Hahn ever getting another GM job. He'll land on his feet somewhere, surely. Has those three alumni networks to rely upon and KW's glowing compliments about his intellect...not unlike when he said Robin Ventura could lead the US Army or a Fortune 500 company or words to that effect. All the comments coming out about Jeremy Haber being another version of Jonah Hill in Moneyball just back up the idea of Hahn never having the slightest bit of pure scouting instincts in his bones. Who needs a 190 page binder on Pedro Grifol to realize he's not THE ONE? Even Dayton Moore was an instinctive enough leader to cut Pedro loose from his organization... Guess we next need to ask Luis Robert if he knows who Haber or Getz actually are and what their respective roles are with the team... Who is saying that Hahn is going to get another GM job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, reiks12 said: The recent Kenny news and this is making me hate Hahn less. I always wondered why someone would subject themselves to being a puppet for the higher ups, but i never considered the fact that JR was holding him hostage. Tough spot to be in if you are Hahn. Hopefully Hahn leaks some information, im sure there is a lot, lot more. The problem is all leaks are going to be from a disgruntled perspective going forward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, joejoesox said: The rubber will meet the road if anyone offers him another GM job. MLB Teams worse than Rick Hahn (2013 - August 21, 2023) 26. .456 749-893 Rick Hahn 27. .456 748-894 Colorado Rockies (1 GB) 28. .455 748-895 Cincinnati Reds (1 1/2 GB) 29. .453 744-899 Detroit Tigers (5 1/2 GB) 30. .437 717-925 Miami Marlins (32 GB) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yes, the cascade of leaks that "Hahn is a victim" and "Hahn wanted to do X, but KW/JR wouldn't let him" has begun. I'm not falling for it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, reiks12 said: The recent Kenny news and this is making me hate Hahn less. I always wondered why someone would subject themselves to being a puppet for the higher ups, but i never considered the fact that JR was holding him hostage. Tough spot to be in if you are Hahn. Hopefully Hahn leaks some information, im sure there is a lot, lot more. I've always believed Kenny being a smug selfish Son of a b****. I'm not defending Hahn but I truly believe he was hand tied. I really do hope he spills his guts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I don't buy that Hahn "tried" to resign 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I don't buy the Rick Hahn resigning stuff. Did this start after TLR was hired or was this before when KW was stepping on him for the 9 years prior. If this was over the last two years, I give JR credit, Hahn made this mess and in the end both he and KW were held accountable. If Hahn resigns after last year he can blame it on TLR and moves he was not allowed to make and 2020 and 2021 were just the beginning. After this season he isn't getting a GM job again any time soon and may not get a job in baseball at all. Why didn't either resign or agree to resign at the end of this season when they could leave gracefully. They are both fired rather publicly in the dog days of summer when the baseball news cycle can use a little heat. This doesn't add up. If KW is the man in charge why isn't he just pushed aside then Hahn can take over? If Hahn wanted a another job why not look for one and not hang around answering to KW for 12 years. They were both fired mid season after all of the years together. I would have thought KW would have at least gotten the John Paxson treatment or retired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, joejoesox said: If Rick Hahn was really against the hiring of TLR, and JR wouldn't let him resign, then he should have told JR that he'd publicly bash TLR, make him look bad, and force JR to fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: If Rick Hahn was really against the hiring of TLR, and JR wouldn't let him resign, then he should have told JR that he'd publicly bash TLR, make him look bad, and force JR to fire him. Yeah but Rick probably wants to work again and pissing off one of the 500 most powerful people in America probably isn't the wisest move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Yeah but Rick probably wants to work again and pissing off one of the 500 most powerful people in America probably isn't the wisest move I'd think that letting the other 29 teams know you thought hiring TLR was a stupid idea would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 On the bright side, if Getz is the GM, he won't be in development anymore. That's a positive. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Don't forget when Kenny wanted to go to Toronto to be one their higher ups jerry said no you need to stay here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I'd think that letting the other 29 teams know you thought hiring TLR was a stupid idea would help sure but that's why you let Kaplan talk for you, optics is everything for these high profile industry positions there are certain things you can't say/do, that's all how many people at that level have you seen rip JR publicly? there's a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Who is saying that Hahn is going to get another GM job? Even Burger Kings needs a GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: If Rick Hahn was really against the hiring of TLR, and JR wouldn't let him resign, then he should have told JR that he'd publicly bash TLR, make him look bad, and force JR to fire him. While I would like to think that yes I would be bold enough to do and say things like this, I would have to say that when the time came it would be a bit different staring down the owner of billion dollar franchise and drafted my contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, The Grinder said: Even Burger Kings needs a GM Honestly didn’t think it would be you but here we are 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Don't forget when Kenny wanted to go to Toronto to be one their higher ups jerry said no you need to stay here Well this solves another Jerry problem as this won't be a future issue as far as Dayton, Tony and Getz are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Someone on Twitter posted since 2000 the Royals have the worst winning percentage in baseball. So the Sox load up on their guys. So excited yesterday, so disheartened today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, Dick Allen said: Someone on Twitter posted since 2000 the Royals have the worst winning percentage in baseball. So the Sox load up on their guys. So excited yesterday, so disheartened today. And a couple of people laughed when I said it could wind up worse than if JR did nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Who is saying that Hahn is going to get another GM job? I said Hahn would easily get another front office job (since they all seem to end up as special assts even when bad) and caulfield took that as GM and even though he was corrected he never stopped saying it because it lets him make a list of the worst GMs who got a second run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Honestly didn’t think it would be you but here we are 😂 Ya just have to have a Whooper And sesame seed buns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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