Timmy U Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Jimmy Lambert, Gavin Sheets With all the roster churn, the guy I am shocked by is Matt Foster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Timmy U said: With all the roster churn, the guy I am shocked by is Matt Foster. He’ll be 60-day IL’d soon. But yeah, it is kind of shocking he’s made it this far. Edited February 19 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: Jimmy, anything new on the Cease front? You implied the other day things were heating up with BAL again. Why do you torture yourself about the Orioles. ? They move slow. They will reassess the health of their pitchers in a month . In the meantime they might find a quick fix like Lorezen if he isn't too rich for them. Would you give up Mike Soroka or Touki Toussaint for Santander ? The O's more than likely wouldn't do that. But would you ? I would, even though the Sox OF seems full now you can delay playing Fletcher to flip Santander. Santander might be flipped for a better prospect than Soroka will be eventually. Seems like Santander could be traded by the Os maybe along with a prospect to get immediate SP help better than Soroka, but who needs a RF for 1 year and is willing to give up a decent SP ? Maybe Hays for 2 years gets you a little more. Cease is still going to have to pitch well this season to convince the O's to give up more than they offered before and that goes for anyone else who thought the Sox were asking too much for Cease. It's a big gamble by Getz but if he feels the offers weren't good enough so be it. But you're barking up the wrong tree if you are expecting anything soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&team=0&pos=rf Santander is the 13th ranked qualified RFer with a 2.6 fWAR. He’s the textbook definition of a solid player. Teoscar is way down that list due to defensive limitations. Highly doubt they will trade him or Mullins. Hays Mountcastle O’Hearn much more expendable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 14 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It’s very easy to navigate right now. The Sox have tons of guys they could cut who would likely clear waivers and in the event that they don’t, it’s not some devastating loss. They should absolutely be using this time to upgrade the 40-man when possible. In general I agree with you. When you have a talented 40 that's a roster crunch . When you are a bottom feeder your concern is all these bums are pretty much the same , I really hope I don't give up the one guy who will end up being a good player. But when you can't develop your own players, that's going to be on your mind. But yea ,I'm not concerned with giving up 27 and 28 yr olds at this point who have little value . There is no roster crunch. They have 70 guys in camp which tells you there's no roster crunch. Anyone among those NRIs who makes the squad is fine by me. I doubt anyone will rue the day the Sox let Banks, Peralta , or Sheets go. We're not exactly talking about letting go Fernando Tatis Jr. here. Edited February 19 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&team=0&pos=rf Santander is the 13th ranked qualified RFer with a 2.6 fWAR. He’s the textbook definition of a solid player. Teoscar is way down that list due to defensive limitations. Highly doubt they will trade him or Mullins. Hays Mountcastle O’Hearn much more expendable... Actually from what I understand there have always been a lot of Santander trade talk in the past . I think even some White Sox rumors too. Santander and Hays get asked about more than Mullins now because Santander is the closest to Free agency and Hays just had a better year than Mullins who is viewed as slowed down a bit by age and injuries. It's not really about who more expendable. It's about getting value now for guys going to Free agency. The Rays trade guys before they get too expensive while contending and plug in younger guys. Os need to get the ball rolling in their OF and on top of that need starting pitching. They need to get their asses in gear before they regret not getting assets for impending free agents and fritter away a season where it's possible to win a World Series . The Rays would have traded Santander 1 -1.5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 10 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/02/18/nothing-but-sunny-skies-over-manager-pedro-grifols-second-white-sox-camp ‘‘I want to take a different approach, which is more effective. Just keep it a little more intimate and get a chance to look at each other in the eyes and just send that message of how important my message is in our message as an organization.’’ 😵😵😵 Edited February 19 by Snopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Snopek said: ‘‘I want to take a different approach, which is more effective. Just keep it a little more intimate and get a chance to look at each other in the eyes and just send that message of how important my message is in our message as an organization.’’ 😵😵😵 It’s like laughingstock stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It’s like laughingstock stuff. He’s becoming a parody of himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 21 minutes ago, Snopek said: ‘‘I want to take a different approach, which is more effective. Just keep it a little more intimate and get a chance to look at each other in the eyes and just send that message of how important my message is in our message as an organization.’’ 😵😵😵 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 They are so bad at this… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 36 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: They are so bad at this… Paul DeJong is the biggest character in the picture and Robert is obscured? Benintendi showing emotion the only time of the season? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 hours ago, Balta1701 said: There is a decent chance that some young guy the White Sox dump from their 40 man this year (Romy, Sosa, Colas, Lee etc.) goes on to be a quality player with some other team. It might not count as a 40 man crunch but they've created something truly weird here, where they are absolutely overloaded with NRIs and they have a manager who already has indicated he would rather play a 40 year old NRI than a promising kid. Maybe it's a "voluntary roster crunch" or a "managerial roster crunch", because the manager wants the vets and the kids have to be dumped as a consequence. For every NRI they add, there's a Scholtens or Tim Hill they can let go. They shouldn't have to touch any in that you mentioned (maybe Romy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Snopek said: He’s becoming a parody of himself. It shows how detached from reality this organization is. Using BPs determination they have a 0,0 % shot at the playoffs as bulletin board material? Has he looked at the roster? Saying these guys are playing for their careers, aren’t mediocre at best players always doing that? Or are these guys so super talented and we’re only available for peanuts because they sucked because they didn’t try? None of the spin makes any sense at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 This is now beyond comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 37 minutes ago, GreenSox said: For every NRI they add, there's a Scholtens or Tim Hill they can let go. They shouldn't have to touch any in that you mentioned (maybe Romy). Romy is already gone. On January 31, 2024, González was claimed off waivers by the Boston Red Sox Edited February 19 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It shows how detached from reality this organization is. Using BPs determination they have a 0,0 % shot at the playoffs as bulletin board material? Has he looked at the roster? Saying these guys are playing for their careers, aren’t mediocre at best players always doing that? Or are these guys so super talented and we’re only available for peanuts because they sucked because they didn’t try? None of the spin makes any sense at all. It's the lack of respect they have for the fans that really gets us. Not even casual fans think this team is going anywhere this season. Edited February 19 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&team=0&pos=rf Santander is the 13th ranked qualified RFer with a 2.6 fWAR. He’s the textbook definition of a solid player. Teoscar is way down that list due to defensive limitations. Highly doubt they will trade him or Mullins. Hays Mountcastle O’Hearn much more expendable... If you go to their projections for this year, Teoscar has projections ranging from 2.5 fWAR to 1.7 fWAR. Santander has projections from 2.6 to 1.7 fWAR. Furthermore, Santander via Fangraphs, the last 2 years, is at -11.9 and -11.1 on defensive value. Teoscar is at -8.4 and -6.4. The guy. you said is downgraded due to "Defensive limitations" actually was better on defense each of the last two years, at least in the Fangraphs version. They're very similar. Santander might project a tiny bit better, but not a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 While Getz and Tony was scouring MLB for any new late 30s to early 40s NRI candidate… https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/pirates-claim-canaan-smith-njigba-from-mariners.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said: While Getz and Tony was scouring MLB for any new late 30s to early 40s NRI candidate… https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/pirates-claim-canaan-smith-njigba-from-mariners.html Back to the Pirates. Getz is weak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Jimmy Lambert, Gavin Sheets Yep. The only teams with actual 40 man crunches are teams like the Braves and Dodgers. Not the bottom feeding White Sox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 50 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Back to the Pirates. Getz is weak. He went by the 8 worst teams in baseball twice, now, without a flyer. He must not be that well regarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: If you go to their projections for this year, Teoscar has projections ranging from 2.5 fWAR to 1.7 fWAR. Santander has projections from 2.6 to 1.7 fWAR. Furthermore, Santander via Fangraphs, the last 2 years, is at -11.9 and -11.1 on defensive value. Teoscar is at -8.4 and -6.4. The guy. you said is downgraded due to "Defensive limitations" actually was better on defense each of the last two years, at least in the Fangraphs version. They're very similar. Santander might project a tiny bit better, but not a whole lot. Put AJ Pollock in the Dodgers' lineup, he'd at least be a 1.5-2.0 fWAR player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/02/19/goal-for-white-sox-robert-jr-moncada-jimenez-150-games-each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I'm looking forward to Speas, who comes from the Gregory Santos school of "Just woke up, time to throw gas": Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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