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I'll add, I'd rather have Pollock for this year than Conforto.

Another OF? Rick Hahn is clearly not a White Sox fan.

Balta, I was with you in that boat of it was terrible to pick up the option and they'll never get anything of value for Kimbrel. Turns out they did. Hahn >> Ray Ray today. It's good news, not bad. Always good to be wrong when the outcome is a positive one. Everytime I saw people mentioned Bellinger and Pollock I thought they were crazy. Turns out, Hahn knew what he was doing with the option and he turned it into a viable talent that filled a hole on the roster. It doesn't change the off-season process in other areas from being poor, but Hahn won this one. Pollock has risk, but so did Kimbrel. At least Pollock wasn't a guy being paid to play a position he wasn't even going to play with the Sox.

I just said it’s a meh trade for me. I don’t love it at all I think Pollock is just an OK fit. But I didn’t spend all offseason making 25 posts a day saying Kimbrel was not tradable without eating major $. You were wrong yet again.

But where does Conforto fit in

So within 4 days after Tony LaRussa said people who think the Sox need to go outside the organization for an OF are not White Sox fans, the Sox made 2 trades for OFs. You can't make this shit up.

Talk about moving the goalposts! Holy Balta!

Real White Sox fans have got to be pissed hearing this news.

Jack is desperate to see Vaughn sent down to the minors. I have no idea why but he's been saying it for months.

Ohmigod...Soxtalk has been like a great festering abscess...Kimbrel is terrible, Management is stupid for picking up Kimbrel's extension, we only have 1B playing RF, worst offseason ever...there were 100 negative emails a day. And then in one single move...the pimple has burst...after cleaning up the puss...the end of Soxtalk negativity. .

I'm glad they did this, and maybe individually Adam Engel and AJ Pollock are injury-prone but maybe when you put them next to eachother in the dugout it balances it out and they become extremely healthy.

He hits the ball very hard. And he hits balls in the air 60% of the time, which is sorely needed on a team that hits a ton of ground balls. If he's healthy enough for 500 PAs, I can easily see him giving us 25 homers. Big if though.

I will give the guy credit. He kept his mouth shut and said all of the right things when he had to.

A patch for Tony’s jersey. He can contemplate this when his new outfielder drives him home from the bar.

Might not be an issue come Friday .

Pete I think you are missing the point of the White Sox already addressing the long term outfield position...they invested a lot of international money on Cespedes and Colas...they are Cuban which fits into the clubhouse thing...each has huge upside and they are 24 and 23. The Sox needed a RF solution for ONE year while these two develop. Why tie up money and positional blocking for 5 years on an equally unproven international player? The Cubs starting in 2023 will be paying Suzuki nearly $20 million a year for four years. To extend the window you need to save money on positions...so 2023 Cespedes playing RF at $0 and 2024 Colas playing LF at $0 allows extensions to Gio and TA without going into the tax. It would be nice to have Dodger/Yankee budgets but we don't and I like the way RH is playing this chess match. Pollok is a great short term fit. This rationale is also exactly the reason I think they didn't want Conforto for five years.

Did he get those at the bachelor party also?

Since 2019, Yoan Moncada has the 12th highest fWAR in basbeall. You calling him just an "above average" player is just laughable. Moncada has played 40 fewer games than Devers in the time and generated .6 more WAR. Since then he's ahead of Bregman, DJ Lamaeheiu, Manny, Yelich, Muncy, Lindor, Albies and on an on - and in fewer games than many of them. This is the problem with you, and others who claim they're just being "honest" about Moncada. You're actually not. Being honest would be saying... I thought and am hoping he can tap into more power. I didn't see him as a sub 20 home run guy and thought for sure he was a yearly 40 doubles type player; he's got to learn to attack his pitch when he gets it with his good eye to maximize his potential. Even though he grades out as a good runner, I thought we would get some more steals out of him, at least situationally. Those are fair critcisms that don't degrade his total impact as a player and infer that he's some bust or less than expected player. Because overall, he's one of the better players in the game.

Them little legs tire out easily unfortunately

aside from that though, he's a pretty good pitcher

Tony LaRussa: hold my beer

so...everyone good with Pollock jacking one off Kimbrel in game 6 to win the WS? Calling it now....

Some of you really can't enjoy anything. His career BABIP is 310. It was 326 last year. If you normalize it to 311, and take away an even distirbution of hits per type from last year, his wRC would have been 133 instead of 137... oh the horror!

Is this even a question? I'd rahter pay Pollock 30 million than give Joc Pederson a starting spot.

Reylo was probably one of the best long relievers in baseball last year. His relief numbers were insane last year.

BUT WHERE IS OUR RESOURCE ALLOCATION?!?!? In all seriousness, at this stage of the offseason, the Kimbrel deal had to fill a hole. Pollock is a great fit, even with his injury history, we have other back up options for when the injuries happen. If nothing else the defensive ability of the OF just went up a TON, along with a legit bat. Would have been better if he was LH, but this works.

I’d rather have Pollock than Bellinger. And on what planet is he overpaid?

Rick Hahn finally getting revenge for not getting to hire Hinch. I like to imagine he was prepared to roll with internal options for right field, heard TLR's comments and just went "oh, fuck off."

What does that last part even mean? Just shut the fuck up old man. Go scream at the clouds or tell kids to get off your lawn. You have no fucking clue about modern baseball and have zero tact. It's bad enough you are fucking up what little money we have to spend on your unhealthy obsession with relievers. Can u at least not be a walking PR nightmare?

Why are we assuming that Vaughn can't/won't improve as a hitter after his first full season?

I mean, did you really expect anything less from @Two-Gun Pete? What in his posting history would tell you he would reply with anything other than what he sent out?

Get another starter and let’s fuck.

Remember: The last time we had an "AJP" we were World Series champs!

It DOES feel like true White Sox fashion, to trade away a bullpen guy, the day we learned that another bullpen arm is gone for the season. And yes, we needed to make that trade, just find the timing amusing.

I wouldn't have said it if it was pretty much anyone else, but Tony earned it.

Also, has anyone checked on TLR? Getting a right fielder might drive him to drink.

Maybe we use the 5 million in savings to sign a reliever.

Where's Balta? lol

Well, there is certainly some crow being consumed across Soxtalk land. Its kind of a whatever trade for me. Sox are better than they were 20 minutes ago, but we just acquired more of the same - right handed hitting OF than will struggle to stay healthy. I'd certainly take him over Kimbrel. With the $5M buyout on his 2023 player option (which you have to assume he'll turn down for a $5M net payout), this is close to a cash neutral deal. MLB ref has Pollock's 22 salary at $13M, not $10M but it must be wrong as multiple sources are saying its $10M in 22 and $5M buyout on a $10M player option for 23.

I called this weeks ago as a great fit and LOVE this. Robert can get some rest occasionally and Vaughn/Sheets can be a great DH combo. This team got MUCH better and picking up Kimbrel's option looks genius now.

I like it. So...since TLR said his shit about fans wanting to upgrade the OF are not real fans, the Sox have acquired two outfielders. Maybe he should talk some shit about fans wanting another SP.

Love it...told you guys it was interesting last night

Good move all things considered. If the Sox didn't cover any money on Kimbrel, a BUNCH of people have to eat some shit around here ?

I like it. Pollock will get hurt but I love it.

Boy did I say this like, 1 minute too early.

But he would have blocked Colas and Cespedes

They did Crochet a disservice with the way they chose to him develop. They did what was best for the organization instead of what's best for the player. He should have been sent tp the minors and given the time to develop as a starter and as a pitcher so he could have the opportunity to max out his immense talent. Instead they chose to rush him to the big leagues like they did with all their recent top picks so they could get max value out of a minimum salary and yet again paid the long term consequences. This organization sucks.

It's absolutely criminal how they handled Crochet. You can't have such a young pitcher throw at max effort under the intensity of a big league game and expect his arm to hold up. There's a reason why this is never done yet they continue to put their players in difficult situations all because Reinsdorf wants his cheap talent. This organization will never fucking learn. They just never fucking learn.