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Continue to not understand this take at all. Yoan was absolutely awful the season; He has no value. Giving away one of the few guys on this team that actually plays defense and bats from the left side is hard for me to get behind. He’s one guy you just have to hope a new training and coaching staff is able to solve next season

But realistically, this should be the end of the road for this group. This season is the biggest single failure in my 38 years as a White Sox fan. Everyone needs to go from KW on down and the roster also needs a major shakeup. Go give Mike Chernoff a President of Baseball Ops title and let him burn this shit to the seems.

He ruined TLRs reputation which is hilarious irony

What is that called, when the hitter hits the ball out of bounds like that??

Thank God I didn't watch or care. This team sucks

All - with the season heading down the tubes I am taking a last ditch extremely superstitious effort to get the club on track and will be working through some upgrades to the forum software sometime next week. Intent is for it to be a one day outage but given size of this board always a risk it drags a bit longer. If it does I’ll get a back up forum up in the meantime but want to make sure I get everything upgraded given some of the slowness issues people were running into on their mobile device etc. Wanted to give you all a quick heads up - I’ll post a more updated timeline as I get closer to it.

You couldn’t pay me to go to these games

Ridiculous. Literally not a single person on earth thought that going into this season. A coach 1000% can drag a team down. Don’t get me wrong, the players deserve blame too, but to say the White Sox even have bottom 10 talent is just factually wrong. The entire team suddenly not being able to hit HR’s can’t be a coincidence. The coaching absolutely fucked this team up

show me one billionaire that doesn't think they're 100% right, all the damn time. they all surround themselves with high paid sycophants who's sole purpose is to tell them how smart they are. Reinsdorf is no different.

Yes. It's all just bad luck. White Sox are a contender who are just really unlucky. Lmao.....

One bad inning sinks the Sox. Let’s get ‘em tomorrow

Too late.

Sell the team should be a chant tomorrow

So including this past offseason and the deadline, Hahn has added about 40 million on the books for next year with the following players: Graveman, Kelly, Pollock, Diekman, Leury It’s hard to do a worse job than he did at the 21 trade deadline, but he found a way to do it. Fire this clown!

Rodon missed the entire season.

I don't think there is a chance in he'll LaRussa comes back next year. But if he does, they will start the season getting swept in Houson and won't draw 25k at the home opener.

And the 2022 Sox left all of them on base.

Sox hit the homer, and score 3. Arizona hits 2 singles and score 5. It usually takes the Sox 15 singles to score 5. Yikes

I don't care what anyone says I love Steve

Would be great if we never see him play for the Sox again. Both sides need a change.

Let us strive mightily to finish a bottle of tequila.

I'm glad the Sun Times did this. Every other media source both locally and nationally need to follow up and create continued major heat and criticism on Jerry.

Between October 2019 and January 2022: The Chicago Cubs fired Joe Maddon after five seasons, three LCS, one WS and a .581 winning percentage. The Chicago Bulls fired Gar Forman after seven playoff appearances in eleven seasons, one conference final, and a winning record (450-419 .518). The Chicago Rapists and Racists fired everyone except the owner who oversaw then whitewashed everything, after winning three Stanley Cups. The Chicago Bears fired Matt Nagy (34-31 .523) with one losing season in four years, and Ryan Pace (48-65 .425) after seven years of sucking ass.

You are absolutely right it starts with scouting, player evaluations and player development. Rick Hahn has screwed this part of the organization up big time. Tampa Bay has been one of the best in this respect for years. Since they don't have the money to spend and they play in a small market and small attendance park, they clearly understand the value of drafting and developing. You are right, drafting is tough, but it doesn't have to be a crapshoot. The good teams like Tampa seem to have an understanding of the type of player they need in their system. They seem to understand basic fundamental baseball in which TB knows the type of player they want that have good speed, fielding and plate presence. They obviously also understand this formula with pitchers. Once these drafted players enter Tampa's farm system, they seem to have the right coaches throughout their entire minor league system to develop these players into productive ML players to bring up over the future years to their big league team. Once these TB players become stars and before they reach free agency, they usually trade them away for more prospects to continue strengthening their farm system. As we know TB plays in probably the toughest division in baseball year in and year out. Since 2008, TB Win-Loss record is 1270-1062 for a .554%. That is 208 games over 500! Yet the Rays have done this success with being one of the lowest payrolls yearly since 2008. Imagine Tampa record if they play in the AL central. Year W L Payroll Rank 2022 69 56 24 2021 100 62 26 2020 60 40 28 2019 96 66 30 2018 90 72 28 2017 80 82 29 2016 68 94 28 2015 80 82 28 2014 77 85 28 2013 92 71 28 2012 90 72 25 2011 91 71 29 2010 96 66 21 2009 84 78 25 2008 97 65 29 1270 1062 This is why we need to get someone from the Tampa Bay Front Office to create this successful formula in Chicago. I realize this may not happen until Jerry dies and the team is sold. However Jerry allowed this to happen with his Bulls team. He allowed his son Michael to run the Bulls and his son went out and found an outside executive who had great success building another basketball winning organization. Keep in mind the Dodgers stole Andrew Friedman in 2015 to be their president of baseball ops and have full control. They knew Friedman could draft and develop players. However now the Dodgers gave him unlimited money to spend to hire all the top free agents. However the key point here is Freidman didn't forget how to build the farm system. The Dodgers are not only the winningest team in baseball with the highest payroll, but they have the #2 ranked farm system. There is no reason Jerry can't let his son Michael take over the Sox and let him go outside and find the right man to clean house from top to bottom. Obviously as we all know, the only thing stopping this is Jerry with his stubborn, arrogant and ignorant personality. As I have stated before, it would only be in Jerry's best interest to do this. Since Jerry plans on selling the team when he dies, it's an even more logical reason to allow his family to sell the Sox after his death for a much higher valued amount. This is usually referred to as following "Best Practices" in all successful companies or organizations"!

The first guy that needs to be fired is Reinsdork, 41 years of this stubborn jerk is enough.

FIRE TONY INTO THE SUN!!!!

If they lose tomorrow they'll actually be losers at 63-64

Only losers quit and the Six are not losers

At least this happened towards the end of the season and he didn't lose much development time.

You know things have gone really bad when the Chicago media is saying “fire everyone”… https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2022/8/26/23323627/trying-and-failing-to-imagine-jerry-reinsdorf-holding-white-sox-employees-accountable-tony-la-russa

Season ticket holder batting practice event early entry to watch the Sox take BP. Not one Sox on the field. THEY DON'T CARE.

There aren’t many better than him… maybe Miles Davis or John Coltrane.

Hell yes and one for Eloy. How many times are these two fragile players, who lack flexibility, going to continue to pull their hamstrings

the same Buffett that pays only 0.4% of his earnings in taxes? dude is just as much of a greedy psychopath as the rest of them. there are a small few billionaires that actually pay their fair share (25-30% and up) but they're a very very very small percentage

Can someone get Yoan a god damn Yoga coach

They are bad at spending money.

Some things need to come to an end. I'm getting there.

I kinda feel like Cheswick in Cuckoo's nest. Nurse Reinsdorf is holding my cigarettes[White Sox] hostage, and I'd like something done about it. The thing that should be done is offer Terry Francona a lot of cash, and give him control of anything he wants.

You realize I have to save this post for next March now, right?

Pissing him off? Who cares what he thinks. He’s controlled by the White Sox for 6 mlb seasons, but really 7 if they don’t make stupid short sighted decisions. There isn’t a single good reason to bring Colas to the big leagues before late April 2023. By the time he’s a FA, if he’s still holding a grudge from a non call up in 2022 when he was hardly even a top 100 prospect, there are bigger issues at play. Now, peak stupidity would be to not bring him up this season, and then put him on the OD roster in 23, I will give you that.

Oh my gosh do the Sox stink this year. Wow.

it's just sad now man, please stop

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Only losers hire a near 80 year old walking corpse to manage their MLB team.

Just quit, Tony. Get a jump on the rest of your life.

Shelley Duncan head of analytics. Menechino implementing Hahn’s vision. No clue on evaluating trade / free agent talent. No clue on developing players. No clue on defensive positioning. This club is still near or at 30th in The MLB at “modernization”.