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…or, to look at it another way, the analytical guys who showed some success in a nonanalytical organization have fled to a team that is hopefully looking for a growth in its analytical approach.

No-brainer. Gotta get him back into form and he’ll be worth $12.5 and then some.

Are we not also one of the worse franchises over the past seven years? Major League Baseball jobs are few and far between. There are only so many opportunities. I’m giving these hires, the men themselves, the benefit of the doubt. They have worked all around baseball in many facets, I’m not going to hold them responsible for a lack of org talent or greater org problems beyond their control. Their resumes look qualified to me, so coming from KC, a team with more recent success than our own White Sox, is not something I will hold against them right now.

Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?

I'll defend the Sox on this one. A-ball to MLB in one season would be a ridiculous jump and probably irresponsible handling of Colas. If they do that and it fails, then we all bash them for rushing and ruining their prized prospect. Colas could come up here and go 1 for 47 with 28 strikeouts. Then what? I'm on board with the idea of letting him earn a spot in spring training. Call Pollock the starter for now (assuming he chooses to come back) and if Colas takes the job from him at some point, then awesome. And the Sox still need to fill the other corner outfield spot.

Just get most of these guys back to where they were pre-Tony, and it will be fun again.

Thing that make ya go, “duh”…

This. Grifol was the guy the Royals analytics people went to and said "please convince Ned (Yost) to look at this stuff, it's critical". Grifol poured over the data, added a lot to it, and then convinced Yost to look it over. Grifol IS an an analytics guy that was stuck in a backwards organization. He sees the value of analytics and blends it with all the other tools. To poo poo him because he came from the Royals is shortsighted, imho.

Obviously a change was necessary, and the team definitely needs to hit more home runs. But I also remember when one of the main complaints on this board was the lift and pull approach that so many batters had.

Yup, I think you start the season with Pollock as the “starter” in LF and then quickly pivot to Colas if/when things go off the rails. Definitely need to add a LH corner OF who is capable of playing RF in this hypothetical.

What a waste of 2 years. Glad that bozo is gone.

To summarize, a QB that "sucks" in Fields put up 32 points against a defense that just added Bradley Chubb and is supposed to be a playoff contender, and needed an incredibly generous non-PI call in the final stretch to at the very least not send the game to OT. But this Dolphins fan watched a GREAT game! Checks out. ?

The funny thing is you know someone out there is upset about this.

Gotta pick up the option before you can trade him.

Not sure I follow. My point is the starting OF for the first 15 games should be Pollock, Robert, & some free agent. If someone important gets injured, then Colas is an opening day starter by default.

Fields sucks, that guy is not an NFL QB. He can’t throw accurately past 10 yards. If the dolphins D wasn’t garbage the game wouldn’t have been that close.

Refs blew 3 big calls, and the blocked kick, all screwed the bears today. But a helluva game by Fields. Get that draft pick position.

I don’t really care about the defense. Dolphins scored at will against the bills, and the weather couldn’t be better today. But watching a bears offensive player that cannot be stopped and it’s not a running back?

Ultraconservative? Come on man. The dude was experiencing a new country and culture while he basted his way through 3 leagues. He has got to be feeling great about himself and his future heading in to 2023. It's absurd and reckless to suggest he should have been pushed to do even more than that IMO.

Hire him as a coach.

Why can't Colas just be that LH RF from the start ? If you bring in another OF who hits LH ,stick him in LF and Pollock is your bench guy. It makes no sense for Colas to sit against LHP because he can hit them . Why wait for things to go off the rails ? Haven't we seen enough of going off the rails from Sox FO, TLR and players performance and injuries in the last 1.5 years to last a lifetime ? Imagine how truly bad the Sox might've been without the "lucky" acquisition of Cueto after the Lynn injury. Cease and Vaughn were the 2 young stars who improved from the previous year. Kopech got into the rotation and had the usual ups and downs of a 1st year starter just as I predicted much to the chagrin of those who shouted from the rooftops that we didn't need Rodon because Kopech would replace him.

The Sox hires actually look qualified for the job, unlike what they've force fed us in the past. We could be talking about another TLR, or fucking Ozzie, another Robin, or Getz, or Thome.

Except for the “put Engle in” guy. ?

Assume? I would anticipate haha I do like the other options though.

This is the way forward. Nimmo should be plan A, B and C. Assuming that bidding exits the Sox comfort level, Conforto, Gallo, and to a lesser extent Benintendi and Brantley should be all be the next tier. They have options.

Great teams have a balance. We need both OBP guys and power guys to get them in.

I have never actually hated a sports team before, with the possible exception of the 86 Packers, but I truly just cannot stand the Astros . I always wish the winning team well, but this year I just feel, **** them.

This should come with zero surprise. Even if anyone on staff offered insight or advice it fell on deaf ears. TLR just did whatever his fermented HOF baseball person brain thought best regardless of how antiquated and or out of touch. This was pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.

The Sox have devolved so much as an organization that SoxTalk is now a giant group therapy board. #jadedsoxfan

I've completed my offseason plan by coming to terms that we are stuck in mediocrity, like the Bulls. We are playing for fun.

This is the least surprising ever after how the rules fail went in season 1.

At the very least it has to be balanced. If Tim Anderson is really good at making contact and going the other way, let him keep doing that. But guys like Eloy, Vaughn, big strong slow guys, they should not be trying to go the other way on the ground very often. They cannot make careers out of beating throws to first or running on the base paths.

I will trust Pedro and his coaches until they prove that trust to be undeserved. It's simply a lot more fun to have a positive attitude than b**** and moan all day long.

That's going to happen when you sell out for power. You're going to be a bad hitter.

I don’t know that anyone’s saying the Sox made the hire based on his ability to speak Spanish, or even that they need someone that speaks Spanish in order to get the most out of some players. But how can it possibly be seen as anything other than a good thing that he speaks the native language of a significant amount of players on the team?

Maybe it’s all just PR fluff, but I like that Pedro is going out of his way to endear himself to fans and players alike. Maybe they realised how bad TLR turned everyone off and it’s more for those reasons, but I still like the effort.

I got an email from “Portillo’s Hot Dogs” this morning and my first thought was a White Sox source was giving me some insider info.

Although he wasn’t the full hitting coach, the overall Royals launch angle the last 2 years has been 12.8 degrees; very consistent year to year and in the middle of the pack. The White Sox have had one of the lowest launch angles in baseball consistently over the entire statcast era and across two hitting coaches, so this is a statistic I hope to see change.

Man they are really pushing the PR with this guy, trying to distract everyone that they cancelled Soxfest!!

If the White Sox don't acquire a starting caliber OF that complements the teams weaknesses (LH; good vs RHP; at least an average defender) they may as well trade everyone of value.

If he’s not ready I don’t know how the white Sox field an outfield for the season. 600 PAs for AJ Pollock is not a realistic option. Vaughn, Sheets, and Eloy playing the OF may as well be a white flag. Right now they have 1 OF, Robert, who tends to miss a lot of time, and Pollock who is roughly 1/2 of an OF as he tends to also miss a lot of time and is also coming off an ineffective season.

You typically have to talk in an interview.

First time posting this, not the last….Fire Pedro

#VoteForPedro…..

You just did more research and put in more time than the actual front office of this team will put into signing this guy. Kudos.