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Wait, so move the park to Addison or Arlington Heights because it's someone else's turn to do all these things?

First off, I didn't say anything about race or make any comment towards the subjects your broaching. Second off, you should get a better understanding of what you're talking about before saying something like this because the relationship you're trying to make doesn't even exist if you actually took a second to understand the facts of the matter instead of just trying to cram race into a subject that race plays no part it. I trust that you will let this topic/tripe go. Not because it is off-topic, inappropriate and without standing, but rather because you tend to have issues staying on the same topic for consecutive thoughts.

AJ' suburban stadium would be known as the Jizz Home, obviously.

Alexy! ALexy! ALEXY!!!!!

I guess time will tell, but I don’t think there’s a chance in hell he throws a pitch in a Sox uniform.

Alexy......yes, yes, yes, yes.

I think he's talking about having 20k people at the game. Currently there are 0 people making the commute to Soldier Field ("Downtown").

If the Bears leave Chicago, the Sox are going to be able to do whatever they want to hold the City of Chicago hostage for any of their whims to do with a stadium. Losing two teams in like 5 years just can't happen.

your 3rd overall draft pick says 3,000 hits is his destiny, and is stuck on 148 three years later. friends and family are signed before, not concurrent with, the main FA target. both Rick and Kenny claim they nabbed their number one player target at the deadline. can’t stay healthy two weeks after an unforced mid-season contract extension. your all time largest contract goes to a guy who hit 5 home runs last season. your high priced old free agent has no other legitimate offers. Tony recommended the guy.

I thought he was talking about Pollock ?

He was accused of beating the mother of his child and either spitting tobacco or throwing a wad of tobacco on his infant before he ever put on a White Sox uniform.

You saw him drop a flyball on opening day.

There are so many things wrong so this post that it’s not even worth debating with you.

Stop speaking in riddles! WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?!?! ?

Do the police always help? Are there people who might have already lost confidence in the police? Maybe they reported something before and the police did nothing and the person just got more violent afterwards?

Ongoing danger to onesself or the child from the aggressor?

I mean, ok? 10 figures is a pittance considering the AH Stadium is $3 billion plus. The City is offering what it thinks the economic benefit the Bears provide is. The Bears want a $1 billion renovation. Now you can go back to watching Tucker/Fox having learned something. Happy to help Indiana man

In 2016 he won a title and was the NL All Star Starter. In 2017, his numbers were a little worse, but he was still an average player. 2.2 WAR, so literally "average starter". .722 OPS. In 2018, his offense was falling off some but his defense continued to be fine. His OPS dropped to .657 on the season. He was put on administrative leave near the end of the season. Overall though, he was a 2.6 WAR player that year, better than the year before overall. He started 2019 suspended, came back, and put up a 0.8 fWAR season in 241 plate appearances. .699 OPS. He was sent to AAA mid-season. He was designated for assignment at the end of the year and no one picked him up. Looking at the advance stats, he was actually better than I thought the last few years, I remember hearing about how his offense never blossomed, but he remained an average player and could have totally continued being a MLB level shortstop based on his performance alone. I'd have to conclude the reason he's playing in Korea now is the domestic violence suspension and no one wanting to sign him because of it.

Traffic sucks, no argument from me. What is there to debate though? JR threatened the move to Addison at a time when the majority of baseball was moving back to downtown stadiums. That trend hasn’t changed. Suburban stadiums are an antiquated notion now and the Bears org being morons is the outlier. Do you honestly think that a suburban stadium wouldn’t also suffer from traffic jams? That parking also wouldn’t still be outrageously overpriced? That you wouldn’t be sitting in traffic 60-90min even still? I’m not gonna waste any more brain power because we aren’t going to agree. But if you want to debate, at least have some factual information next time, and not more of you being afraid of the big bad city.

I don't believe so because typically these incidences often come as a result of a public encounter or a result of the victim trying to secure their own safety. Also, there could be more incidents like Clevinger's that never went public and the MLB never ultimately decided to rule on a punishment. The only reason we know of Clevinger's incident is because his ex just recently consented to the media reporting on the story. Sox have made two made moves in the offseason. I can't imagine Reinsdorf just throwing away one of them and paying for it when he didn't allow any adds away from Clevinger and Benintendi. If you look at all of the recent domestic violence incidents in MLB, provided that the player is still MLB quality, they have almost always received another shot. The exceptions are Bauer and Sam Dyson. While Bauer is probably too early to say I am assuming he'll get the Manfred blackball and Sam Dyson's case had firearms involved in addition to physical, emotional and sexual abuse in his case. Plus Dyson had issues in his past prior to the DV incident and he was an older reliever. Otherwise, German, Urias, Odubel Herrera, Russell, Osuna, Steven Wright, Familia, Jose Reyes, Chapman, etc. all returned to their teams and played after serving their suspensions. There really is no precedent for a team releasing a player after a suspension past Bauer.

He was supposedly asking for 30 million dollars.

why does it not say "CHAZ JIZZ" on the box

Agreed.

the main difference is he's being accused of child abuse. you don't recover from that. If he's suspended the Sox should void the contract (violated 7(b)1 of the players contract) wait for the grievance then handle it with arbitration or a settlement. If the union wants to stand behind child abusers then so be it... Plus is there even precedence for a team unknowingly signing a player that's being investigated by the MLB?

Some asshole.

That guy posted a bunch of "insider" points in a post the other day on the White Sox subreddit. Some of them seemed believable. Some of them were absolute bullshit. So take that with a grain of salt. It's not like anybody here really should want to rely on Pineda as insurance. He's god awful.

A depth claim!

I think Clevinger gets 20-40 games and is pitching for the Sox by the end of May. Looking at his case compared to other recent DV incidents, he is not being charged criminally, he is not being pursued civilly, he was not put on administrative leave shortly after the investigation was opened and there are no witnesses to the incident being investigated. It is just a case of he said, she said between (former) partners. When the league has had evidence to the severity of a given DV investigation recently, they have quickly acted putting players on administrative leave (including and not limited to Ozuna, Bauer, German and Carlos Martinez). Clevinger has already pitched for months since this investigation was opened. The most comparable case to me would be Addison Russell and in Russell's case, he took accountability for the allegations made against him. Of course things can change, but as of now, Clevinger's camp is denying the accusations. It is pretty hard to investigate this if you're the MLB (no authorities to cooperate, operating on testimonial evidence almost exclusively) and pretty difficult to punish if you're the Sox (per the DV policy, the MLB is supposed to levy punishment and the team has to consider the possibility for the a grievance from the union). Hopefully this stuff wraps up soon as the MLB has already had over half a year to investigation and to hopefully stop this from being a distraction to the team.

Don’t know if this is true, but thought I’d share.

I think the above is exactly what will happen.

Anybody else getting more and more follow ups lately? I ended up blocking the reps number. If they wanted to sell tickets they shouldve had an offseason plan after last years disaster ... yet here we are. have a feeling their numbers are poor going into the season against what the sox (in their own minds) is a very strong payroll commitment.

And yet, that player still made the playoffs as the starting catcher for seven straight years (for three different teams). The Grandal signing was a good signing, no matter how much you hate him.

The GM's first signee as a GM earns a -1.7 fWar in year 1 (of 3), and has to be released in year 2 before playing an inning. With a month of trading for a player deemed a "premier starter", the GM has to explain that he believes that the issues are "fixable" and not an "unprecedented evaporation of talent."

....JR signed off on it.

It's likely becuae of his high strike out/swing and miss rate and his questionable pitch recognition skills.

You knew it was a bad move when......the Dodgers benched him during the playoffs.

It would be a fucking nightmare for 82 games a season if the Sox played where soldier field is. Just a gridlock joke

They emphasized they spent the same as they had spent on Carlos Rodon a year earlier.

Nothing they can do about it? They could have not built the new stadium across the street in the late 80's/early 90's? Although the stadium has convenient highway access - it is still viewed as an undesirable area to go to. Who wants to ride that section of the redline at night? And crap like those guys on electric scooters scamming people for money as they exit the Dan Ryan for a game only furthers the problem. IMO the Sox need to move once new ownership eventually comes in. If nothing is available downtown, then the burbs should be the focus.

I know. You’re making a reasonable point. I’m talking about many of the people I’m reading comments for on the internet. Stupidity at its finest.

SF has the QB curse this year also

The points about the contract difference with Strider and good, and if starting is important enough to Crochet, I could see him signing a team-friendly extension to give the Sox some more incentive to potentially have him spend 2023 and even 2024 building up innings and developing a third pitch. Crochet's injuries are going to cost him in Arbitration so maybe there is some wiggle room there. Strider was a late bloomer (size and talent wise) that had TJ during his sophomore year of college. He changed his arm action and built up his legs, both of which took pressure off of his elbow. When you watch Strider pitch, his 100mph looks effortless, which is crazy for a guy that is 6'0 200. Compare that to Crochet who has great size (6'6 230lb (not Lynn weight but actual muscle) who has absolutely nasty torque. Between the leg kick, the hips, and the arm action, his delivery is somewhat violent. His entire profile reminds me a lot of Hader or Chapman. Randy Johnson had a similar arm slot and similar violent delivery, but there has never been another of him Whether he could or should change his mechanics to take stress off of the elbow is another debate. The way he used his hips and his elbow not only create his velocity but a ton of deception. He hides the ball really well which makes him unhittable at times. I'm not sure that a toned down version of Crochet can have as much value as he would have as high-leverage reliever.

Since this team is a dumpster fire… they will probably be in first place until September before somehow throwing it away.

I'm so extremely bummed. I'm out on AKME. I hate not having good basketball in chicago. And what's worse, I was apathetic when we had good albeit not championship level ball. I don't even really understand how to build a good team in the nba without extreme luck. I don't get why the raptors are so bad. I don't get even why the bulls are. We celebrated when bulls knicks tried and now want them to tear it down. The bulls/magic went into rebuilds, got zero lottery luck, entered decade of hell. The Grizzlies went into a rebuild, got incredible lottery luck, are entering a decade of dominance. The Suns went into a rebuild, were largely idiots, had incredible lottery luck, tried and became dominant, it lasted for like 2 years and is facing hell. It's really kinda hard for me to get into basketball as much. It seems way too random to build a team. It sucks.

The Sox did have a terrible offseason. No doubt. But pointing to Abreu and the fact that they didn't hit for power last season as the main reasons displays a lack of understanding of the larger problem with the roster construction. Key players staying healthy, getting better defensively and getting more left handed were far more important than paying a declining Abreu $19M AAV, or whatever it was, to block fixing the defense and left handed issues. Love Pito; wish he was a Sox for life. But it was the right decision.

I have indeed always wanted to experience the park by sitting at a buffalo wild wings that is inside a parking garage.

White Sox attendance issues started in the mid 1960's when social unrest created the myth that Comiskey Park was a "dangerous" place because of its location. Nothing the Sox could do about that but they have shot themselves in the foot over the years with decisions like leaving WGN-TV, creating SportsVision and saying "We are Chicago's American League team..." instead of taking on the Cubs full-on. From 1951-1967 the Sox outdrew the Cubs in 16 of those 17 years sometimes by a wide margin. Part of the issue is the Sox have not been able to consistently put a winning competitive streak like that together since then. Often they come out of the blue (like in 2005) and have an excellent season but they...can't...keep...it...going. I don't mean winning World Series after World series but how about making the playoffs say four times in six years or five times in seven? Sox have never done that. They'll have a nice stretch (1981-1983, 1990-1994, 2000-2006...) and then it's back to mediocrity. To say nothing even about all the controversies...Sox are moving...stadium controversy, JR and 1994 labor impasse, White Flag Trade, cancelling Sox fest, bizarre new ticket policy among others. That's no way to build a fan base in my opinion.

The playoffs did not exist twenty years before Reinsdorf bought the team. The Tampa Bay Rays didn’t exist until 17 years after he bought the team. They’ve won more playoff games than Reinsdorf.

..... you signed a career utility player to a 3-year, $15.5.M extension to "beat the market".