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Thank goodness they got an F and are being called out. The White Sox are doing a great job in only one regard: Turning longtime multi decade "lifelong fans" into people who no longer care about their passion, White Sox baseball. They've turned many many fans into front runners. It used to be we loved our Sox thru thick and thin. Now ... wake us up when you actually have gotten your bleep together and have a contender. Worst season in Sox history with little hope for the rest of the decade. Thanks Sox (sarcastic) ... you made me not care. They make no effort to keep one likeable player in Abreu and then for some reason trade the semi-loveable Burger whose name truly fit that pudgy loveable face.

The Sox would be 32nd if two expansion franchises were awarded this year.

I mean, it makes sense. We knew Fischer was gonna Major League his team. We didn't know Kenny and Hahn would make moves separately, get fired, the next GM would be internal, a team expected to contend for the division would COMPLETELY bottom out, Cease would collapse, Tim would be horrid thanks to Hanser Alonso's defense (i.e., preventable), Liam would get cancer, Sox fans would get shot, Pedro would be Boylen/Trestman 2.0, Middleton would be so ready to leave he'd shave his beard, our best pitcher would have domestic abuse lingering over him, rumors of a move to Nashville AND we're not even guaranteed a top pick. Basically, Sox fans are Mrs. Lincoln being asked if she enjoyed the play.

I watched the game and I still don’t know.

For me as a fan, this has been the worst season. Not just from the win-loss viewpoint. It is hard to be optimistic. It is hard to imagine a winning season in the near future.

They should be 32nd even without expansion franchises.

The perfect ending for the season would be Jake Burger hitting a grand slam to win the 7th game of the world series. Thanks Kenny!

And so ends the era of the "young championship core" with the "multiple championships window." They never did "flip that switch."

Stereotype of Jerry Reinsdorf today: totally unwilling to change things or take outside feedback. Reinsdorf fires his GM, finds the only mediocre white guy in his organization who won't give him independent and outside feedback or demand for him to change anything about how he's running the organization, hires him for GM without competition. Completely living up to the stereotype, to the letter. Stereotype of Jerry Reinsdorf: so anti-union that basic things like "being a spokesperson for the Union during the 2021 lockout would be totally infuriating for him and a complete breaking point with that player". A few months later, the team breaks off negotiations and takes that player to an arbitration hearing over a difference in salary of $50,000 - a stunningly petty move that counts as completely living up to the stereotype, to the letter. You can do more of these, the LaRussa hiring, draft picks, international signings, front office staffing, low pay for his part time employees, he is basically living up to every stereotype we have for him. And now that the player who was a public union spokesperson was traded away, and Reinsdorf has spent the last several years totally and utterly living up to every single bad stereotype about him to the letter in every single way we can think of, we expect him to do the exact opposite and bring that player back? If we get a thread about Giolito coming back, you may call me on this one and I will say that Reinsdorf shocked me because I sure don't see this as Reinsdorf behavior.

Looked at the box score. I have no idea who Yohan Ramirez is

ESPN is right on the money, the 1970 White Sox would beat the crap out of the 2023 White Sox. I hate this bunch so much that at 78 years old I’m willing to risk another rebuild so I don’t ever have to see most of the clowns on this poor excuse of a MLB team ever again in White Sox uniforms.

Cause guys, let's remember that this is the current 2024 rotation under contract: Cease-Kopech-Schlotens-Patino. Touki is almost a lock to re-sign. Then you've got the elite battle of Honeywell, Martin's reconstructed arm and Burke (if he exists) in the mix. Mena and Nastrini are gonna get a few starts in AAA. Who knows what the plan is for Crochet. Also, Cease could be traded, creating a true Murdered Row of a rotation.

At this point the Sox need 1/10 guys to fill out the rotation. If the coaching staff is back, might as well bring back a guy who Katz has had success with + let Bannister get his hands on him.

Get rid of the distractions, band-aids, cancers, etc. on the team. Can't stress it enough.

If the price tag is an issue on Anderson then they are in huge trouble as it's a peanuts deal. He obviously needs a change of scenery so pick up the option and hope for the best.

ESPN+ has ranked White Sox season #30 last in majors with an F ranking, citing front office mayhem and underperforming. An embarrassment by the Sox this season.

Giolito was absolutely rocked by Cincinnati last night. He has nothing in the tank. Basically, he has morphed into nothingmore than a pitcher (thrower) serving up beach balls to the hitters in a home run derby contest. It is remarkable how far he has fallen this season. He may only get a spring training invite next year without any guarantees. He can forget any possibility of a lucrative long term free agency contract. Who is the "real" Lucas Giolito? Maybe Donaldson was correct about the sticky stuff. His fastball velocity has dropped to the 91 range which eliminates the past effectiveness of his changeup.

https://www.mlb.com/news/josh-barfield-join-white-sox-staff-from-d-backs “Part of [Getz’s] vision was bringing in the people from other places where things have gone pretty well,” Barfield said. “Between me and Gene Watson and Bannister, a lot of this first week has been kind of downloading ideas and things we have seen, things that have worked, things that maybe haven’t worked and also getting to know how things are done here. I like the collection of ideas we have so far.” “Watching these guys play [for Arizona], from our dugout over there, those guys were developed right. I’m glad he’s on our side,” said White Sox manager Pedro Grifol of Barfield. “Smart, articulate, well spoken, you can go on and on and on. I’m happy he’s on our team. I think Chris has done a really good job assembling a nice group around him that’s going to bring some different ideas.” Balta's going to have a field day with this one...

The Chicago White Sox: where careers go to die.

I believe that is the signing that pushed JR to his decision. That is some serious wasted coin. If JR is a fraction of the fan that he thinks he is, Bellinger was the a no brainer pick up. Really is no legitimate reason to have not signed him. A short term lightning in the bottle specialty.

It’s not just that we are the worst team compared to expectations. The Sox are the worst team in baseball right now and by a wide margin.

The 1993 clincher was the last Sox game we attended before our move to Florida in December, since then we have been back a few times and have taken in 4 games, the last time was in 2011. We have taken in many games at Tropicana Field when the Sox visit Florida to play the Rays. Back to the 93 clincher, going to the game was a last minute decision and we wound up sitting in the last row of the upper deck before they chopped off 8 rows in 2004, that was row 29 and what a climb, felt like we were watching the game from the moon. Great night with fans staying an hour after the game singing and dancing in the aisles and the Sox coming out from the clubhouse and taking a victory lap around the field.

I think they go with a partial blowup, JR is too old for another major rebuild and I think he's going to open up the checkbook and sign some solid free agents while they rid themselves of some guys like TA, Eloy and a few others. I would like to see Clevinger come back and also Giolito, his heart is with the Sox and he wanted to spend the rest of his career on the Southside.

How do Elvis's numbers compare to Tim's? Short-term solution, yes.

Minneosta got fleeced in this deal not Miami. Minnesota gave the Orioles the good prospect. Both ends of the trade this year were released.

Trade is such a bad word to throw around. Trade for what? We would like to believe a GM just might see something we don't. False assumption. Having unproven players in a farm system isn't always value. Let's not forget they can't develop anyone. Most likely what they get will be worse. It's an emotional bandaid. We would like to think there has to be another organization as naive as this one. The fact this organization is retaining a manager about to lose 100 games and ost likely keep the terrible coaching says this a very naive organization and GMs know this. Wishful thinking.

He's been playing all 3 OF spots in instructs.

Yes, I disagree; they were never particularly young, and as soon as they got good the farm sucked again.

If Stroman gets rocked tmrw...Cubs fans will be even more irate about holding onto Bellinger/Stroman. Although Marcus' value was way down, the odds of holding onto him at that point (or the desire on the part of the Cubs' FO) weren't looking all that promising. Still, nothing like the Ohtani situation or Padres holding onto both Snell and Hader.

No sticky stuff and he blows

@greg775any Hall of Fame guys available to manage?

The thing is that Getz can't call out the players and say they stink because he's going to try to trade some of these guys. I don't think Getz is stupid and has to see the same things we have seen all season.

We knew that already. Must be rocket scientists at ESPN.

If the season were to start today they might be as bad as the 1962 Mets who went 40-120, worst team in my lifetime.

Michael Jordan was one of the worst executives to ever exist. Playing the game and evaluating the game are mutually exclusive.

We have no clue how Getz is qualified to even lead a horse to water. Maybe he would have kept Burger.

1-3 finish gets us to the magical 40 under. I’ve seen this pitching staff, and we can do it.

Brother Rice math. ? Go Shamrocks - Since 1861!

So true that it is really sad. JR deserves this disaster of a team!

Cheatolito is nothing without spider goop

Agreed. I'd give him a 1/10.

Andrus is a corpse and TA is no longer an MLB SS. TA should play 2B if he stays but will he bring a bad vibe. Not sure if he belongs any more.

I think TA will get 14 million if the Sox pick up his option, let him walk and spend the money on signing a decent starting pitcher, we can put up with Andrus another year who at least plays like he cares and shows some life, Montgomery should be ready in 2025.

My hope is that he sees 2024 as a lost season, so might as well just let it burn. This team needs a Ricky

Excellent Tropic Thunder reference.

Too bad he doesn't use the same yardstick for Grifol

I went to Brother Rice and you must have had the wrong teachers then.

Calvin Johnson is one of the biggest freaks of all time and he called it quits early. The #2 WR in his class decided to pitch and earned $122M. Johnson earned $110M. Samardzija earned more in salary than Megatron. Yes, there's sponsorships. But those hits take a toll on your body and brain. Kyler Murray is a lucky one.

If you have a future in other sports, it's stupid to play football.