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f*** Thom Brennaman.

If I was GM… Okay this is Bagent Town for the next 15 years. He’s honestly played the best, most exciting Bears quarterback I’ve ever seen. He moved defenders with his eyes and played the real game. I’ve never seen a Bears QB ever do that and I started watching during the Kramer years. If we roll with Bagent I think Poles needs to upgrade 3 lineman. Tev & Darnell lock up the right side for the next decade. Braxton first sub at tackle. Davis first sub at guard. Those guys aren’t starters just move on. Tev & Wright together was wrecking; I feel like we all liked that as fans and questioned the switch back. Davis ego? Whatever. Trade down as low as you can to still get Olu for LT, lock in future firsts and grab an established stud just like last year. I think Briggs & AB are right to get that guy and forget about it for the next decade. Trade Justin for maybe a 2nd and that’s where you get a risky ceiling guy like Xavier Leggett for Tyson to throw to. Not sure what you do at 9. Maybe trade down some to grab more 2nds and draft your LG? I’d be stoked with this but that’s cuz I believe in Bagent. If you hate Bagent you probably hate this post and want to flush it down the toilet 😂

There comes a point where someone just becomes numb. I’m a recovered alcoholic. And everyone used to talk about hitting their bottom. It always bothered me, because an alcoholic can rationalize anything. You can keep expanding and extending what qualified as a “bottom” I never hit a bottom as an alcoholic. I just said enough is enough. im hitting a bottom as a sox fan.

This...doesn't seem worth a thread.

I am not at the point of stating Cease's 2023 is going to stop Getz from getting a monster haul this offseason because I do still think someone will cave to the ask. But in the event that you are going to go into ST with Cease still on the roster, FFS at least spend some of JR's money to bring in 1 more serviceable SP and a decent RF like Duvall, Grichuk or even Gallo on 1 year deals. If you can't even tank for a good pick, may as well try the misfit toys route and see where things stand in June.

This thread is a ghost town now that the Orioles fans left.

All I know is, I'm going to bet the Dodgers Runline and White Sox opponent Runline every game this season lol maybe even parlay them.

It was rumored a few posts up. Long shot, but it would be White Sox AF.

I don’t know how you could pass up on four 1sts and three 2nds if one of them is the 1.03 and you can still land MHJ. Even if you’re not 100% certain about Fields, you’d have so much future draft capital that you find a QB in other ways. I just don’t think there any chance you are getting that much to move up two spots.

Wouldn't that take them out of Snell tho?

I agree - I actually think it is the opposite. If after 3 years you have to ask - than the answer is they aren’t. None of the top guys was anyone asking that question after 3 years. They may say are they number 2 or number 6 in the league but there is usually a ton of alignment that they are legit.

As hard as it is to believe someone could be worse than Yaz, Maldonado says hold my beer.

I will forever laugh at the name: Dick Fitts

Grandal threw out 15% of baserunners last year. Maldonado threw out 14%. I think some are expecting a lot more than they will be getting. 37 year old catchers generally don't get better.

MLB.com intern must be reading my tweets. 👀

From what I read, they did 10 minute exit interviews today with the entire roster from like 10am-5pm, Pace and Flus were conducting the meetings. If they were moving on, I’d have to imagine they would have fired him at like 8am this morning. Now, I would certainly hope they are exploring all options and if someone like Harbaugh expressed interest, doesn’t mean they can’t move in a different direction…but I get the sense if Flus did all these interviews, he’s safe

I loved the bat in college, but he was nothing special defensively. I’m surprised he hasn’t hit better as a pro.

Hey if you want to believe these are the right guys, more power to you. Doesn’t seem like many of them come from winning scenarios but yea they might be the one guy that is good at his job in the entire organization that sucked ass , and surely they would want to leave the Royals for an up and coming situation like the white Sox have going on. Yea I’m starting to buy into your line of thinking now after spelling it out like that. Hire the guys from the shitty companies they know what NOT to do

Duvall would probably be a decent flip candidate but I doubt the Sox are willing to pay him the $10 million or so it would cost. I don’t see any reason to sign Gallo at this point. He has proven he can’t hit above the Mendoza Line for four straight seasons. He’s a strikeout machine that occasionally hits a homer. I don’t see him being worth acquiring for any reason. I’d rather see Eloy DH full time, hopefully stay healthy, and put up a monster first half so they can trade him for something. I’d also rather see Colas get the at bats in a lost season, rather than Duvall or Gallo. And ideally, the Sox get back an outfielder that will eventually be starting for them if Colas is a bust.

You somehow grasped my point while letting it soar over your head. Dipping a little bit into the Royals well, sure. Maybe Getz knew some really talented guys there. But that's the predominant well that he keeps dipping into. Eventually, because they're taking so many people from that organization, including Getz himself, you'll build a Royals culture with a White Sox reskin.

Everyone has a different definition of "elite" but if you're asking if they should expect them to be better than 2023/2024 Justin Fields by the end of their second year in the NFL? Then yes, and that isn't an unrealistic expectation at all.

Make deferrals illegal

Benetti is a highly desired broadcaster with top assignments throughout all sports, and his resume is superior this early into his career. Brennaman is completely toxic, and would only bring even more negativity to White Sox baseball. There are enough crony nepotism people in the Reinsdorf orbit. Let his daddy, who also had a similar incident, because the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, get him a job somewhere else. Talk about tone deaf.

Might be a total disaster, but the Bears could be the most watched/interesting team in the league next year with Harbaugh/Williams. And if the Bears want to do it, they can..will only cost money.

At that point just sign Bauer and Urias and go full heal

After what they went through with LaRussa and then Clevinger, it would be the most tone deaf hire possible.

If they replace Benetti with Brenaman, I think I'm checking out on the broadcasts for awhile. What he said wasn't a slip of the tongue. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Yes I say the 3 and 3 pushes me over the top. I can still take another qb. I don’t think they offer that much.

This is it y'all

It’s so hard this draft - cause what I really want is an elite qb, elite wr and elite lt. Yeah I am greedy…but this is a draft that has all 3 available in top 10 and we have 2 picks. In free agency - Lts don’t make it, wideouts do ocassionally and they also hit from time to time later in draft. So right now - I think my top 2 picks are qb and lt. Am totally fine with trade down too and a different order. Too bad Fields isn’t it cause if he was they could have had all 3 (plus a future 1st). Jones is nice an all for a late round pick - but in my lifetime Bears haven’t had a book end LT. Hopefully one of these two is that.

Why couldn’t the Sox have made a deal like this?

They've been supplying the team with bad rosters for years, I'd say his misery has already affected the area.

I don’t see the Mets trading for Cease given how they’ve approached this off-season and Stearns’ general track record in MIL, but there are some nice potential packages there. I still think the Dodgers could be a sleeper here. I know many of us aren’t enamored with their prospects, but it’s clear they are going all-in on next year and a durable starter like Cease (with TOR upside) would make all the sense in the world for them. I’d definitely prefer trading with the Orioles, Red Sox (if even interested), or New York teams, but I could see definitely Friedman give up what it takes to land Cease.

You almost have to either keep them all or get rid of them all, in Eberflus, Getsy and Fields. My thing with keeping them and trading the pick, is if they fail in 2024, they will have the draft capital to get back up top in the draft.

Ok, however you want to zoom out, this season or his entire career, one final game is in fact immaterial by itself in judging what you are about to do

White Sox it sounds like. We were very into him on the draft forum.

No joke… I mean one of those clowns who used to be here said we were getting babe Ruth and Nolan Ryan. sick.

Lovie was fired after a 10-6 season and overall went 8-11 vs GB, I would throw puppies from a rooftop to have that record vs them, lol. Bring in Harbaugh.

Nah. A cap maybe to limit how much can be deferred as to prevent skirting luxury tax ramifications, but not in favor of an outright cap.

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned much on here is that Bradish and Rodriguez saw big increases in their workload last year. Bradish was up 40 innings or so from the previous year, while Rodriguez increased by around 90. That team is going to keep having to add to their pitching depth.

They lost their stud closer as well who is likely a big reason they exceeded their Pythagorean W-L projection.

I would expect playoffs at a minimum as well. But that would have been the same standard if Fields returned. The difference here is we’re hopefully drafting a QB with the floor of outperforming Fields, and a ceiling of becoming a generational talent. All at a much cheaper cost.

Sweet Jesus, I feel bad for Caleb Williams if he's playing behind this line

This is like a bad sitcom

Now you know how 95% of this board feels about you and your declarations about Orioles prospects.

Don't need/want the spare parts. Go stand in the corner with Cardinals' fans for that one.

and this guy was calling me a snowflake. Jesus lol

You’ve somehow picked a fight with the most reserved person on this board