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JFC are you one pathetic Reinsdorf shill. Never fucking call people’s fandom into question for challenging the dumb business decisions of this org you ignorant f***.

They weren't getting first rounders for Coby White with him being a UFA, plus his injuries and bad play this season. The time to trade him was in the offseason or last deadline.

I don’t really want to punt the draft pick.

Lol. Some of yall telling on yourself.

The first thing was my initial shrug and thought it was a tad overblown. Then I read the bullets. Plenty of second person things on this and others that kind of warrant acknowledging. Frank Thomas should have gotten his own page and Dye should have have gotten a blurb about being on the World Series team. Anyone involved in that should not be involved in anything related to that kind of work again.

He was first player in MLB history for have 7 straight seasons of .300, 20hr, 100 rbi, and 100 walks. I also believe he was first with 400 home runs (and all time leader) and 1st two time MVP in franchise history! He has a million firsts - this was not a fluke - this was done on purpose.

For a half season? Nah. They will be lucky to get a top 50 guy.

Oh look, the Bulls were late to trade someone again.

Luckily by never agreeing to one of those highly risky nine figure contracts, the Sox have avoided going bankrupt unlike the other 29 organizations!!

Yes, all teams have budgets. But last I checked, the White Sox reside in a large market and still have the smallest largest contract among ALL 30 MLB teams — Benintendi at 5-years, $75 million. I’m not sure why you apparently think Sox fans can’t be Sox fans without supporting a terrible owner. Just like how some Sox fans have the right to defend Jerry, the overwhelming majority of Sox fans also have the right to be upset with one of the worst owners in baseball.

and this just keeps going on and on...and the mods...well

This is the comment I have been waiting for... not the oddly insecure ones.

Jerry Reinsdorf is a lot of things, but everything indicates that racist is not one of them. I can't thing of anything he's said or done as Sox owner over the years that shows that he's prejudiced against any minority group. The best explanations to me is that this snub is a) due to organization incompetence or b) veiled vindictiveness against someone who doesn't sing praises to the Sox organization. Both of those possibilities is very much on brand with Sox ownership. Who knows, maybe JR doesn't like the way Big Frank eats. Also, he's not a Boomer. Boomers are people born between 1946 and 1964. He predates that by almost a decade being born in Feb. 1936.

I think the poster meant the new version of racist which doesn’t mean racist and confuses everybody

Based on this? I think he’s a greedy and stubborn prick, but calling him racist feels kind of lazy.

I find it funny that we have heard numerous stories over the years from legitimate sources about how dysfunctional Jerry’s organization has been run but you would question a poster on this site that has done interviews and obviously has sources of his own. Sure, not every story is going to be true but we know of plenty that are. The only thing that will clean the s%*# stains off of this organization that were left by Jerry will be when he finally sells the team.

Excuse me but once again my sources weren't nobody's in the Sox organization or the media. You can certainly think that if you wish but you'd be wrong. And I find your comment insulting. I'm nobody's f#$%^&* stooge.

That's a good idea. Would make. it convenient to check. I could actully go to his home games if I really wanted to.

Being the only World Series MVP in your franchise's history seems slightly noteworthy.

The f*** up here is that they cite Minoso breaking the color barrier, Al Smith as the first Black All-Star, but then use African American throughout. So it creates intense confusion.

Wow. This is a total nothing burger.

Yes. One of the best purchases I've ever made.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/02/pirates-sign-mike-clevinger-to-minor-league-deal.html Clevinger has signed a minor league deal NOT with the Sox.

The Tigers are situated to win now, nothing baller about trading today away for the future imo in that scenario.

Well it's the difference in probably being projected at 90 wins and 85 so yea, you're taking the playoff odds preseason down from like 85% to 60% or so. It's not just letting him go, it would be basically punting a contention year and in video games that works fine, but nobody ever does it IRL to any success.

Honestly the baller thing to do would be to trade Skubal now and cut your losses, but grab someone's top 5 to do it. Absolutely reload. Take a hit today to own the AL Central in the future.

Depends on where they are in the standings at the teade deadline then.

If he pitches like himself this year, the Tigers will get 3 to 4 guys, including a Frontline one if they choose to move him. Pitching is always insane at the deadline.

They're trying to make the playoffs this year and probably will. He's a free agent after this year, and if they keep him past August 3, they won't have the opportunity to trade him.

Unlike the Sox, the Tigers will absolutely load up on this trade, when it eventually happens

He was never coming back after the number the Tigers submitted to start this

When Veneable was asked about a breakout guy he said Baldwin. He also loves Vargas as a clubhouse/great team mate guy.

Hudson officially DFA’d to make room for Hayes.

Happy for Coby. Gets to go play for his hometown team.

Yep. Hahn said he would not have made the trade without Ynoa. Like he out-negotiated the Oakland GM. Hahn can put that one on his resume'.

Can't install a bidet in the Bulls front office because it would wash away the employees

No first round picks. You almost have to try to be that bad.

This is the trade that makes me the angriest of them all. Oakland got like 40+ WAR out of Bassitt and Semien. Just complete malpractice in identifying the true value of your players.

So the MLB article talks of getting Taylor to 100ip but Venable hopes to use him to win games. I would be wary of back to back appearances or anything that could hurt him. It is interesting but you have three right-handers in Vasil, Taylor, and Hicks who have some starting experience/ability to go more than an inning. At some point it might make sense to use each every third game for two innings. 50g = 100ip. Getting a couple days rest might protect them a bit. If we are out of the race or post trade deadline, it might make sense. If someone traded(Hicks), you could add in one of the TJ guys or a youngster.

Well to be clear, I didn’t like the idea of moving Taylor to the bullpen. That being said, Taylor also completed dominated the minors and was ready to produce in the majors. The only real reason to hold him down was to build up his innings without burning team control, which I would have done. Instead, the Sox are targeting to get him 100 innings in the majors this year as a reliever in hopes of him possibly joining the rotation next year with 5 years of control remaining. Meanwhile, Smith and Schultz both have plenty to work on in action to their need for inning build-up. As such, they both need to be down in AAA or AA focusing on their development. A big spring training or a need at the major league level should not change that plan.

Do you even go to games, bro?

I know I'm probably in the minority but I don't like Meidroth as the 2b moving forward. He does nothing exceptionally well and his total lack of any pop in his bat and run production should be enough to move on from him.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/grant-taylor-role-2026-white-sox-bullpen

We've known some of these guys were big fans of La Russa s%*# for years

From the TV show Loudermilk: (NSFW language)

Might have enough of this archetype right now, but he plays all 3 OF spots and slashed .301/.368/.510 in AAA last season (only 153 ABs). 6-32 (1 HR, 2 2B, 5 BB/SO) in brief stint in the majors.

I thought the white sox had finally moved past white soxing

Rangel Ravelo, a name from the past.

At the start of the teardown the following players were under control for the following returns or lack their of: Jose Abreu: MVPito was kept through the deadline. Ultimately the Sox kept a fan favorite and made the wise decision to let the Astros pay him. Excellent move Dylan Cease: Cease was under Arb control until this offseason where he was paid. Knowing now that Cease likely wasn’t going to extend and that he got the deal. He was traded with 2 years of cheap control after the 2023 season. Hindsight says his value would’ve been highest after his breakout 2022 campaign. The Sox dealt him for Iriarte, Wilson, Zavala, and Thorpe. Both Iriarte and Thorpe have had cups of coffee. I think Thorpe has the best chance of saving this deal. He had a nasty 2024 before TJ ended his 2025 season. Overall this was a missed opportunity for the Sox although there is hope yet. Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez: after a let down 2022 season, Giolito didn’t has as much value. I have no issue with the Sox running it back with him. At the 2023 deadline he was flipped to the Angels along with Reynaldo Lopez for Edgar Quiero and Ky Bush. Lopez eventually found success after leaving as a starter in free agency although he was hurt last year. Not sure about the long term viability of him as a starter but ultimate ly I’m not holding it against the Sox. This was a BRUTAL trade from the Angels perspective. They gave up on both for money issues and gave up a great catching prospect in Quero and a possible rotation depth piece in Bush. Bush is now 26 and hit a wall in AAA, but is still a legitimate prospect. It was a great trade at the time and aged well even with Lopez’s emergence. Tim Anderson: fell off a cliff by the time it was okay to give up on a guy that was a fan favorite. In another universe he doesn’t get punch by Jram and is still a star. yoan Moncada: Moncada was another guy with a big 2021 that fell off before it was time to get value for him. Not sure it wouldve been palatable to trade him after his 4 win 2021 season. Garrett Crochet: this is the most controversial IMO. Crochet was traded after proving himself as a starter in 2024. He had two years of control left when the Sox traded him for Teel, Montgomery, and Meidroth. At the time of the trade it was a strong return and all 3 had excellent first years with the Sox. Teel and Meidroth look like multi win big leaguers and Montgomery gives the Sox a high potential outfielder that fills a huge system need. The “controversy” is from the Red Sox side of the trade. They extended Crochet with a 6 year 170M that buys 4 years of free agency for 115M. At this point he’ll almost definitely opt out for the last 2. It was a risky extension at the time and it seems like the Sox didn’t want to give it, but now is one of the better deals in baseball. Crochet was a 6 WAR pitcher and Cy runner up that threw 200+ innings. Would have been a great extension to have made, but given the risk the return has made it palatable to very solid. The alternative is that he got hurt and you missed out on 3 cost controlled big leaguers 2 with legit star upside and another with a multi win floor. Lance Lynn: The Sox moved him in a contract year. He was another guy that fell off after 2021 not allowing the Sox to extract value. He went from Cy-3 to a high 3 ERA pitcher worth 0.7 war in 2022. That may have been the time to trade him as he had a disasterous 2023. He was still able to be moved with Joe Kelly for Nastrini (disappointment) and Leasure who is a solid back end bullpen piece. Given his value at the time it was a solid return but just tough to get so little for him. Robert: Fresh in the memory. We’ll see what value Acuna has. It seems like he has the inside track to the everyday CF role. Probably the most obvious case of holding someone too long as the Sox were clearly rebuilding during his breakout year. Still, it was understandable to keep a core piece. The cards just fell poorly. Vaughn and Madrigal: madrigal was flipped at the perfect time, Kimbrel just didn’t work out. Vaughn seems to be a missed development opportunity but I’m not going to fault the Sox for anything other than the outfield experiment. Gregory Santos: cost controlled stud reliever. He has been hit with injuries since he was traded so it’s hard to remember that he was a a big trade chip at the time. The return was Prelander Berroa and Zach Deloach. Berroa was the main return and even through he was hurt last year has shown upside as a reliever. Kimbrel and bummer: 2 relievers that appear to have yielded no usable return long term. Soroka still has upside but not for the Sox. Collins: a lot of promise but ultimately flipped for Reese McGuire. burger: top pick, hasn’t quite burned the Sox but Eder didn’t work out So in total you have: lynn, Robert, cease, crochet, bummer, santos, Kimbrel, Vaughn, giolito, and Lopez out and let Pito, Tim Anderson, and Moncada walk. Other losses include Kelly, Burger and Collins. in return: Teel, Acuna Montgomery, Meidroth, Berroa, Leasure, Nastrini, Iriarte, Thorpe, Quero, and Bush. Teel, Meidroth, Quero Acuna and Leasure are big league contributors. Montgomery is a high upside prospect. of the group of pitchers, Thorpe has the most upside and could be a contributor this year . Berroa has a very good shot at being a bullpen contributor. Nistrini, Bush, and Irarte have something to prove. The Sox added talent through the draft and Rule V which I consider to be part of the rebuild and not the teardown. The Crochet Return (+Quero) does a lot of heavy lifting. Thorpe picking up where he left off would be a huge help, because it would be rough to not get a single cost controlled above average starter for Crochet, Cease, Lynn and Giolito. If Hagen and Schultz work out it’ll be less of an issue it’s just expensive to get good innings in free agency.