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Maybe no one should have been freaking out about less than a month's worth of DSL games fresh off signing a new contract. Really, no one should give a shit about DSL games in general, but certainly not in this context.

A couple more thoughts. I've lived in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and Houston markets, and I cannot ever remember a franchise that has gone after their own fans nearly as often as this one. AJ Hinch gets mad when another team throws at his players, our manager swears when people dare question him. I think this tells us a lot about how these guys really are indoors - they really are surrounded by yes men. They go around all day with no one willing to step out of line, to propose anything new, or even to suggest that doing things differently might produce different results. They are so used to it that the only way any criticism leaks through - in the occasional press availability - they blow up at them over and over. Williams, Stone, Renteria, and I'm sure Cooper more than once although we've stopped paying attention to those, and that's all just this season. Rick Renteria has a .423 career winning mark, he is 258-352 as a big league manager. But he's absolutely angry at the concept that he might ever incorporate anything new into his managing style. His GM doesn't push him on that, he doesn't work with him on that, he's just in charge and he's absolutely earned it? That's absolutely not how it works in Houston. If management has something they want to try, they work with Hinch on it, and if Hinch has a problem with it, things stay behind closed doors. When people question AJ Hinch, he explains his thinking, admits sometimes things go wrong, and here's what we'll do about it if needed. It's the same setup as the rest of the franchise - how dare you question us, we are owed your allegiance and your money. Everyone around us has told us we're doing a great job, just you angry folks in the press.

By the collective hive mind doomsayers that love to scream into the void at the slightest sign of adversity.

Abreu will cost 5% of what Moncada will in a few years, that's why JR is happy to say this

He's averaging 11.5 k/s per 9 and has a FIP and ERA of 3.2 in 2019 MLB baseball. After today Giolito should/will be top 5 (6) in pitcher WAR. I'm not sure what is needed to be an ace if that's not one. This isn't even peak giolito either. He's in his first season of MLB success. Edit: and he will have done it in less innings than everyone above him not named Scherzer. Parkman, you should be gloating but now you're ridiculing the guy when he's top 5 in WAR. Weird.

Snell got 5/$50M early this year with the same amount of control and coming off a Cy Young winning season. Severino & Nola got 4/$40 & 4/$45M respectively plus an option year (I believe both were Super 2 guys). Any deal in that range should be a no-brainer for us as long as we buy out at least one free agent year.

Bless u El Rockin. You do realize when I say you are the best Sox fan ever I mean it, right? At least best on a message board ever. You are logical and loyal both IMO.

Guys, calm down. It’s probably just a death threat.

He's in the top ten on fangraphs and bbref before this game even gets logged. You have pretty stringent definitions of ace.

Hey guys! Still think he’s a fluke, a #4, or whatever other hot takes you had?

I remember watching Anderon in his rookie year thinking he was gonna be as good as he looks now. Then he looked average to below average the next couple of years before finally finding it.

"my bad"....lol...fuck him. Twins get that call all day. that guy sucks behind the plate.

I can't stand the guy. Someone test him for PEDs ASAP.

With virtually no protection.

Just want to point out that since August 5th Abreu is now hitting (including 2 singles today in 2 at bats) .381/.437/.698/1.135 in his last 71 plate appearances.

@vilehoopster would be handing Ricky a lifetime contract after these comments if he was the owner

If it's only two years that's manageable and I could get behind it (I'd personally prefer 1 yr + 1 option)...Anything beyond that wouldn't be ideal.

Great posts on Abreu BuehrleWood.

Barring injury, with two more seasons, and even with some decline in production, Jose will likely land in the top 5 All Time White Sox for home runs and RBIs, and top ten all time for doubles and total hits.

I mean, a gag reel of Trubisky throwing left went viral like a week ago.

Lowered his FIP to 3.2 after today's start and that will push him to around 4.5 fWAR. He can still have a 5 fWAR season, which while not quite an "ace" is certainly "really good 2nd starter every team would love" territory.

That series was an ass kicking sandwich. The meat in the middle was crap. But the bread was very nice.

Sombrero for Goins. Thank god Moncada is back tomorrow.

If its called "Park Life", I have same book. Lots of great pics of fans at the games. I will give credit to the Chairman and Einhorn there, they really did spruce it up when they took over.

lmao, jfc. Rickie is a nice guy but he's a simpleton.

There is no reason to believe the Sox would sign Abreu for only one year. 3-5 years is my hope

1-2-3

This is where I'm at. Need to have a way out.

Just go year-to-year from here on out.

Yolmer heating up a little bit. That average over .250 now.

Doctor Giolito performing surgery on this Twins lineup.

Best hand and wrists I've ever seen. I say it all the time, but my goodness is it a pleasure to watch.

From a production standpoint, it would be impossible to be critical of abreu if the guy goes 35/120. RBI's dont matter for projection so they have little value on the future, but you can't take away what he accomplished this year regarding run production.

1.135 was the actual OPS number. I done added wrong.

I like Abreu, but Moncada is the type of player that you say this about, not Abreu.

Ron sold the exact bottom again!

Another abreu rbi. Inching closer to 100

Castillo vehemently denies. I think there is more to this story. Personally, I am waiting for more info before passing judgment.

The White Sox have been far more of a “laughingstock” these past seven years under Reinsdorf than Bill Veeck’s teams were from his second go-around as owner from ‘76-‘80.

Never going to happen. They’ve got a pitching coach who refuses to adopt any semblance of modern pitching thought, and had an announcer that ranted about some stupid ass TWTW and they seemed to love him. I can’t believe this never came up, but I’m convinced the whole Manny friends and family plan had it’s roots in signing-Thome-will-get-us-Konerko-back. I’m fully convinced they thought “hey, it worked before”. This organization has demonstrated no capacity for forward thinking.

I still am interested to hear how the Sox plan on competing with this Twins team the next few years. Their offensive talent is insane, and they have a lot of open payroll also going forward and arguably a better farm system.

I am sure JR's secretary prints out his emails and reads them to him.

I think you might be getting one former White Sox owner confused with a current White Sox owner in terms of who almost “moved the team to St. Pete”. Veeck helped save the Sox from moving to Seattle. Reinsdorf threatened to move the team to St. Pete if the state didn’t meet his demand to make him a future billionaire by building him a stadium entirely funded off the backs of taxpayers, while also giving him a 40 year lease with annual guaranteed taxpayer-provided subsidies. Meanwhile, speaking of those subsidies and all of the revenues Reinsdorf has received from the new ballpark, if you thought Veeck was a “terrible owner”, who operated WITHOUT those taxpayer, built-in advantages, what in the world can you possibly think of Reinsdorf, particularly when you think of the franchise’s record since the park opened in 1991.

Yeah we're stunned

Not surprising at all. For a poster who always wants to “JUST WIN BABY”, you sure love supporting stupid opinions by our stupid manager which actually leads to the team losing more games. How ironic.

I was banned more times than I can remember. Surprised the board is still going, honestly.

Dotel didn’t close any deals, he was setup, man. Castillo was caught stealing, but luckily has a pretty good defense. I’ll see myself out.

I may be one of the few who (somehow) discovered Soxtalk first and never posted at WSI. #homegrown